Rumour Bluemour Discussion XXXV - 'Loopy' Season has begun

[Soapy V]

Where does Elijah play if we get him?

I'm hoping it is not about trading for an ex high draft pick who is a brother of a current player. That strategy has proven a liability to Carlton over the last ten years.

Can he demand a midfield rotation? Did GC say he was played out of position on the wing?

Half forward is a hard role where we need defensive pressure. Is he potentially a Owies/Cunners replacement?

Looking into 2024 it is really hard to fathom which way we want to go with our half forwards. Creative types who can score or out and out pressure forwards like Owies/Durdin pressuring rebounds and leaving goals to our talls/mids. In that last brisbane game we went with creative forwards in Motlop and Martin and Brissy walked the ball out for easy corridor central counter attacks.

Motlop and Martin can pressure but can drop that aspect at times.

Schulz can do both but we sucked a lemon there.

If he has a good pre season it’s mid/fwd for me

Having a midfield rotation of Cripps Hewett or Kennedy Walsh Cerra Hollands maybe Williams supported by Durdin Martin Motlop is a great mix that won’t give an opposition any rest

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

No way we are taking on Billings’ contract.

Swapping an injury prone Billings for Dow and paying more salary?
P1ss off SOS.

 

[CrippasHeavyLoad]

So Hollands + 32 for pick 26


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[JustOneTime]

yup agree Billings is not the worst outcome, ironically they're both former pick 3. better than losing Dow for zilch .

Both whipping boys. Dow has him covered though and has be whipped to cappuccino levels.

 

[GT619]

Looks like Hollands deal is a simple pick swap. Incredible deal for us. We were apparently into him for a while. He wasn't keen to leave GCS but we sold him the chance

Billing’s offered for Dow. Could be a smaller Bowes deal but I have no idea if we are interested

Clubs know our F1 is on table to go up draft order

2-3 draft picks and a couple of mature players is still the plan

 

[Lukeblueboy]

I am still confident we will get further up the draft order. May not happen until the night but I have no doubt it will happen

Hollands, 2 good picks and 2-3 mature players will be our lot

Any ideas as yet soap on who the mature players may be?

 

[marcmurphy3]

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So Hollands + 32 for pick 26


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I suspect it would be 36 or 38 but still an unbelievable good deal if no other picks are involved.

 

[Soapy V]

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So Hollands + 32 for pick 26


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Hmmm. I thought Hollands was as steal of the draft but now King has said it I might change my mind

 

[Stamos]

I am still confident we will get further up the draft order. May not happen until the night but I have no doubt it will happen

Hollands, 2 good picks and 2-3 mature players will be our lot

We don't have enough list spots for all that.

 

[Soapy V]

Any ideas as yet soap on who the mature players may be?

No I don’t but we have apparently done some medicals

 

[Soapy V]

We don't have enough list spots for all that.

For 5, possibly 6 changes. You sure? I think we have

 

[Stiffler's Dad]

ITKs treading a fine line today...I am sensing the annual tides of discontent swelling, backed by the cold southerly gales of accusation, and some monsoonal downpours of derision.

Pissing down my back and telling me it's raining Kramer1

 

[Stamos]

For 5, possibly 6 changes. You sure? I think we have

No.
If Dow goes out, there are 4 spots.
Hollands in would make it 3.

We've already brought in Cincotta and O'Keefe and 1 Irish.

 

[Soapy V]

No.
If Dow goes out, there are 4 spots.
Hollands in would make it 3.

We've already brought in Cincotta and O'Keefe and 1 Irish.

Aren’t there now 44 spots?

 

[RoyalBlues]

Would we be best to leave it at Newnes as our only Jack from the Saints? . . . he can keep top billing and we can stay even stevens . . .

 

[slashin_velvet]

So Hollands + 32 for pick 26


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That feels about right - and for us its less of an impost as they will use 24, 26, 27, 28 on Walter, Read & Rogers which will make 32 end up landing in a higher spot in the end anyway.

 

[Kramer1]

Pissing down my back and telling me it's raining Kramer1

And so it begins...

 

[CJMB]

Where does Elijah play if we get him?

I'm hoping it is not about trading for an ex high draft pick who is a brother of a current player. That strategy has proven a liability to Carlton over the last ten years.

Can he demand a midfield rotation? Did GC say he was played out of position on the wing?

Half forward is a hard role where we need defensive pressure. Is he potentially a Owies/Cunners replacement?

Looking into 2024 it is really hard to fathom which way we want to go with our half forwards. Creative types who can score or out and out pressure forwards like Owies/Durdin pressuring rebounds and leaving goals to our talls/mids. In that last brisbane game we went with creative forwards in Motlop and Martin and Brissy walked the ball out for easy corridor central counter attacks.

Motlop and Martin can pressure but can drop that aspect at times.

Schulz can do both but we sucked a lemon there.

mid/fwd or 'forward half' mid, with a point of difference (compared to some of our other inside mids or fwds who rotate inside) in that he's a great runner.

I'd suggest there's a base level pressure & standard of defensive work that is an expectation for our forward half players, which is typical for most of the league, then the guys hitting those markers would be ranked off the offensive/attacking output (not necessarily goals but involvements or intangibles like their use of space, etc).



"I'm hoping it is not about trading for an ex high draft pick who is a brother of a current player. That strategy has proven a liability to Carlton over the last ten years."

...How many times has this happened in the last decade?

 

[agro]

Would we be best to leave it at Newnes as our only Jack from the Saints, he can keep top billing and we can stay even stevens? . . . View attachment 1832503

Let’s deal with that later.

 

[Stamos]

Aren’t there now 44 spots?

That's including 2 Cat B.
There are a max 42 Senior and Cat A (36+6, 37+5, 38+4)

 

[BIuebagger]

Billings for Dow…
TCP says deal is done, wonder if it’s this they’ve heard or for a pick…

 

[chipzac]

If we take Billing’s money for Dow I’d want pick 35 as well and only if another side wants it as part of an upgrade we want

This doesn't inspire me with confidence, though

 

[Soapy V]

That's including 2 Cat B.
There are a max 42 Senior and Cat A (36+6, 37+5, 38+4)

Interesting. Many believe Cat B is outside that and we can now have 3

 

[Soapy V]

Billings for Dow…
TCP says deal is done, wonder if it’s this they’ve heard or for a pick…

I believe it’s a pick or a pick swap

 

[WyntersGame_]

I actually don't mind the idea of taking Billings. When he was at his peak he was a handy player in a difficult position (HF). Really depends on how his body is

If the trade went a little something like this I'd be happy

Out: Dow & Pick 78
In: Billings & F2 (a percent of his current wage to be subsided by St Kilda)