Rumour Bluemour Discussion XXXVI - 'Loopy' Season in full swing

[Uncle Fester]

Nah, the club attaining the player should lose the equivalent draft pick points that the free agency formula spits out

Ie Saints would not get pick 8 but the Hawks would be docked the equivalent value of pick 8 from their total draft hand

Works 4 fold
1. The rest of the comp is not affected
2. the ridiculous contracts being thrown out for these types of players just because it doesn’t cost the receiving club a draft pick will abate
3. The Free Agent still gets to where they want to go with zero fuss
4. The AFL can publish the guidelines and bring transparency to this debacle


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brutal system - would smash free agency - that said - a 50% version would certainly help create some thought

 

[Blue and Silver]

Collingwood could offer Noble and their future first for 12.

We would probably offer our future first and change.

GC probably just want to get Noble with a pick from this year's draft, but you never know

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[Campoeasy]

Glad you're not in charge of list management. Harry would be worth twice that.

A former number one just hitting his straps that dragged Brisbane to the gf, an exceptional up and coming small forward and a first round pick and you'd say no, I'm glad you're not in charge of list management.

 

[Aphrodite]

Pies will get Huston no problem.

Don't worry, we have nick Haynes.

Again we are asleep at the wheel

Teams above us are getting better and we are getting nick Haynes

 

[CrippaTheGoat9]

Collingwood could offer Noble and their future first for 12.

We would probably offer our future first and change.

GC probably just want to get Noble with a pick from this year's draft, but you never know

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Cal Twomey saying pick 12 alone won’t get the deal done for us so how is it gonna get done for the pies???

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Cal Twomey saying pick 12 alone won’t get the deal done for us so how is it gonna get done for the pies???

Because we're held to a higher standard in the media / have less respect.

Geelong, Collingwood, Sydney can always "get deals done" easily in the eyes of the media.

 

[Red_man2008]

I sure hope not. My mate was sure they will. I probably should’ve taken the Friday beers into account with him but

If they over pay for graham and Richmond let baker walk it will be equivalent to a Richmond win. West coast will be getting baker on the cheap but lose out with salary spending.

 

[SurreyBlue]

Cal Twomey saying pick 12 alone won’t get the deal done for us so how is it gonna get done for the pies???

They know we get sucked in to pay above standard. Everyone knows we are good deal with….

 

[CrippaTheGoat9]

Because we're held to a higher standard in the media / have less respect.

Geelong, Collingwood, Sydney can always "get deals done" easily in the eyes of the media.

Pisses me off this narrative, we are getting laughed at for the thought of trying to get the deal done with pick 13 but the Pies will get it done when Cal Twomey has said the pies will have to offer their future first as well as noble to get the pick!!

 

[The Blue Weirdo]

But it just show you how the AFL is such a corrupted organisation, by giving Suns all these concessions for them to consider trading a top 30 pick for John Noble.

Same with the AFL giving the go ahead for suns to trade pick 7 plus Bowes with his contract that can be renegotiated to the cats for a future second.

I'm buggered if I know why the Suns even need a John Nobel with all the future stars they've got stashed away.

What we need to do is trade a player out that's worthy of a similar pick or one that attracts 1st. band compo.(you can't have your cake and eat it too)

Gibbs would be the last decent player we've lost.

 

[Red_man2008]

Could we potentially trade out pick 12 and our future first to GWS for 15, 16 and 21. Use 16 and 33 for Houston while using 15 and 21 at the draft.

 

[Blue Reaper]

Nah, but we’re getting Galadriel for a late 3rd rounder.

Better come with at least one ring of power ….

 

[AB_Blue]

Could we potentially trade out pick 12 and our future first to GWS for 15, 16 and 21. Use 16 and 33 for Houston while using 15 and 21 at the draft.

I like it but don’t think the Giants would jump at that…seems a little too much in our favour

 

[jj1978]

Usually when I say something like that the opposite happens so just trying to create some movement….

Laxatives usually help.

 

[Cripptonite]

Houston is a decent player but we don’t really need another half back on big coin. We already have Saad Doc Williams Newman Boyd to play across half back, & half backs are relatively easy to find as opposed to other positions on the field.

Port won’t settle for less than a top 15 pick in a good draft plus change. I say let the pies have him and go after a Key back/small forward or Petracca/SDK this year or next.

 

[carlton_99]

Houston is a decent player but we don’t really need another half back on big coin. We already have Saad Doc Williams Newman Boyd to play across half back, & half backs are relatively easy to find as opposed to other positions on the field.

Port won’t settle for less than a top 15 pick in a good draft plus change. I say let the pies have him and go after a Key back/small forward or Petracca/SDK this year or next.

Yep we should still be going after 13 for a F1 + something extra probably but I would be keen taking it to the draft or spending it in an area of need like KPD, small forward or outside mid

 

[carlton_99]

Pisses me off this narrative, we are getting laughed at for the thought of trying to get the deal done with pick 13 but the Pies will get it done when Cal Twomey has said the pies will have to offer their future first as well as noble to get the pick!!

Pies have Richards who Port want so could include him in a deal

 

[Accidental genius]

There should be no confusion anymore:-


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Is one of the threads going to have updates of Carlton trades (in/out) and pick swaps stickied at top ?

 

[Skull Face]

Thanks but no thanks to Houston at that price, move on not even worth haggling

 

[Blue Reaper]

Guys here there is no Petracca,No Petracca here,Petracca not here.


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I tell you what. You try getting from where you’re sitting to the start of this thread. Cause I reckon I could Oliver you from where you’re sitting to the start of this thread. Cause that’s about as long as you’ve got to produce some Petracca for me. Right. Now. I give you 20 seconds to produce some Petracca … 1, 2, 3, 4 ….

 

[jj1978]

Nah, the club attaining the player should lose the equivalent draft pick points that the free agency formula spits out

Ie Saints would not get pick 8 but the Hawks would be docked the equivalent value of pick 8 from their total draft hand

Works 4 fold
1. The rest of the comp is not affected
2. the ridiculous contracts being thrown out for these types of players just because it doesn’t cost the receiving club a draft pick will abate
3. The Free Agent still gets to where they want to go with zero fuss
4. The AFL can publish the guidelines and bring transparency to this debacle


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I kinda agree.. treat it as f&s like formula. AFL provide end of H&a a points value for each free agent etc and the team that gets them has to provide draft pick points -20% to acquire. The team that loses the player gets those 20% points added to a draft pick.

 

[mjonc43]

Port should take the sniff brothers Oliver and Smith (Fact and public info), they are obviously taking something if that is what they want.

 

[mjonc43]

A money ball pick up I reckon is Johannisen. Offers speed, can help with our spread, and play half forward, wing and half back.

Could go back to 13 if Richmond get pick 2 for Graham and then west coast walker baker to the psd

Pick 2 for Graham? In no algorithm ever!!

 

[mjonc43]

Nah, the club attaining the player should lose the equivalent draft pick points that the free agency formula spits out

Ie Saints would not get pick 8 but the Hawks would be docked the equivalent value of pick 8 from their total draft hand

Works 4 fold
1. The rest of the comp is not affected
2. the ridiculous contracts being thrown out for these types of players just because it doesn’t cost the receiving club a draft pick will abate
3. The Free Agent still gets to where they want to go with zero fuss
4. The AFL can publish the guidelines and bring transparency to this debacle


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Interesting perspective. It does make sense.

 

[ABigOlDoofus]

Think the asking price for Houston is more than fair for Port, just don't think we're in a position to be giving that much capital away for another HBF, even one as good as Houston.