Oppo Camp Brodie Grundy (Traded to Melbourne 2022)

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Wasn’t he saying Adelaide clubs should be throwing $1.4m a year at him on a long term deal last year???

A 30 second search on Twitter brings up KC stating:
  • that Adelaide should pay at least $1.1m a year ‘because they are desperate for a good ruckman’
  • Port not drafting Grundy ‘their biggest draft miss ever’
  • Grundy is ‘the best in the AFL’ and should win the Brownlow
  • Ruckmen are overrated and Collingwood have made a mistake signing him for 7 years
:rolleyes:
 

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If grundy was playing for another side and he joined us on a 7 year deal would any of us be complaining? We have the best player in the game for 7 more years be happy.

We had to give 7 Years as every other club would of given him 7 or even more
 
Boyd won the dogs a flag, so it worked out well for them without even considering the reduced terms of his retirement.

and when he Retired they got rid of his Salary in the Salary Cap
 
It doesnt matter how you pitch it, a long contract in a sport that has such a high degree of physicality means that the club is taking some degree of risk.

I appreciate that brody has expressed a passionate view of wanting to be part of the team, but it's difficult to see how he has demonstrated his passion in the contract. Brody has committed himself to playing every game for collingwood for the next 7 years - although it is accepted that if he is injured he wont play and if his form doesn't warrant it, he wont play. But the club will still pay him.

The only thing that I can see is how the contract incorporates possible player payments increases in future collective agreements. If there isnt any automatic adjustment for such eventualities, then brody's contract will look increasingly "cheaper" over the next 7 years. And if Brody does make vice captain or captain, does his contract allow for his pay to be adjusted? Maybe he sees such developments as a win for both himself and the club.

The reality is that Brody will be 32 when this contract finishes and players who are 32 are not signing contracts worth a million dollars. It's a smart business decision by his manager and a necessary one for the club to retain him. I'm not a big fan of the people involved adding too much flowery language to the proceedings.
 
It doesnt matter how you pitch it, a long contract in a sport that has such a high degree of physicality means that the club is taking some degree of risk.

I appreciate that brody has expressed a passionate view of wanting to be part of the team, but it's difficult to see how he has demonstrated his passion in the contract. Brody has committed himself to playing every game for collingwood for the next 7 years - although it is accepted that if he is injured he wont play and if his form doesn't warrant it, he wont play. But the club will still pay him.

The only thing that I can see is how the contract incorporates possible player payments increases in future collective agreements. If there isnt any automatic adjustment for such eventualities, then brody's contract will look increasingly "cheaper" over the next 7 years. And if Brody does make vice captain or captain, does his contract allow for his pay to be adjusted? Maybe he sees such developments as a win for both himself and the club.

The reality is that Brody will be 32 when this contract finishes and players who are 32 are not signing contracts worth a million dollars. It's a smart business decision by his manager and a necessary one for the club to retain him. I'm not a big fan of the people involved adding too much flowery language to the proceedings.

So you happy to lose Teams best Player because they want Long Term Contracts?


 
It doesnt matter how you pitch it, a long contract in a sport that has such a high degree of physicality means that the club is taking some degree of risk.

I appreciate that brody has expressed a passionate view of wanting to be part of the team, but it's difficult to see how he has demonstrated his passion in the contract. Brody has committed himself to playing every game for collingwood for the next 7 years - although it is accepted that if he is injured he wont play and if his form doesn't warrant it, he wont play. But the club will still pay him.

The only thing that I can see is how the contract incorporates possible player payments increases in future collective agreements. If there isnt any automatic adjustment for such eventualities, then brody's contract will look increasingly "cheaper" over the next 7 years. And if Brody does make vice captain or captain, does his contract allow for his pay to be adjusted? Maybe he sees such developments as a win for both himself and the club.

The reality is that Brody will be 32 when this contract finishes and players who are 32 are not signing contracts worth a million dollars. It's a smart business decision by his manager and a necessary one for the club to retain him. I'm not a big fan of the people involved adding too much flowery language to the proceedings.

No one knows the details of the contract. You would have to think there would be clauses for the later years of the contract based on performance and games played

It would be a dumb move not to offer him the 7, Whether you offer him 5 or 7 or 3 or 2 its the same risk. The huge plus is he is still reasonably young , not in his prime yet. Rucks can last until around 32 to 34. His injury record has been pretty decent. He is worth the million now. By the time the 7th year comes a million will be being earned by more players

its like buying a house, you dont know the risks in year 2 let alone year 24 of the loan. If you think the moneys worth it for the property, the investment is a safer bet than doing nothing and renting ( trading for mediocre rucks for 2 year deals)
 

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5 year deals worked out well for Cloke and Boyd...no, wait
That Boyd deal worked out exceptionally well for the Dogs. It got them a flag and then freed up a ton of cap room after his early retirement.
 
Gotta Laugh at that Knob Kane Cornes having a Sook that he stayed at Collingwood




he seems to forget that Grundy is way more than just a typical ruckman, he is in effect another midfielder that is a very handy ruck. lets understand the author, take that with a grain of salt, he’s a bit of a knob as you mentioned.
 
A 30 second search on Twitter brings up KC stating:
  • that Adelaide should pay at least $1.1m a year ‘because they are desperate for a good ruckman’
  • Port not drafting Grundy ‘their biggest draft miss ever’
  • Grundy is ‘the best in the AFL’ and should win the Brownlow
  • Ruckmen are overrated and Collingwood have made a mistake signing him for 7 years
:rolleyes:
Some clever person could probably get some screenshots of those tweets and make a ripping meme.
 
Stop making things up.

Okay. I guess you know then what other teams have Offered?

I never said that what they Offer but I was saying what might a Offer IF a team got into a Bidding War
 
A seven year contract is not a problem if it is structured correctly. You would hope the dollars trail off toward the end of the contract and/or there are appropriate performance clauses.

Lots of dollar figures will be thrown around. At the end of the day we do not know the devil in the detail so don’t really know whether it is a high risk to the club.

All we know is it is seven years. The rest will be speculation.
 
Okay. I guess you know then what other teams have Offered?

I never said that what they Offer but I was saying what might a Offer IF a team got into a Bidding War
Simple logic dictates that teams aren’t going to offer a 25 year old ruckman a 9 or 10 year deal given the demands of the position.
 
would rather five years, but hay what’s an extra two years, but like apex said as long as the money is right, and that was the trade off for the extra years l can live with it.
We got the best ruck in the comp still, now we just have learn to take advantage of him.
 
The devil will be in the detail on this one. On the surface I don’t like it (seriously he’s signed until he’s 33...), but if we’ve made it work to retain the other two I can accept that.

Of Course we would done things in this Contract so we in great shape to Retain De Goey and Moore
 
Boyd won the dogs a flag, so it worked out well for them without even considering the reduced terms of his retirement.

Yeah it worked out well in an arsy, hamfisted kinda way. When they offered Boyd 7x 1mill they were expecting more than 52 games out of him. Take that GF performance away and the deal sinks worse than the titanic.

It’s like saying the Mayne deal worked out well because by luck he managed to reinvent himself as a winger and play a good GF.

If Grundy is still playing 1mill a year quality football 6-7 years from now... after by then 250 games in the ruck.... then I’ll be pleasantly surprised.
 
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