Cancel culture, racism & Collingwood & Carltons club songs

[iameviljez]

Ms Thorpe, the first Aboriginal woman to be elected to the Parliament of Victoria, believes Indigenous groups and the state government should consider the idea during treaty talks.

One thing that's missing in these conversations is nuance in our analysis of #BLM and the general push for racial equality. In particular, we're not great at determining what's a universal demand of the movement (end police brutality, end deaths in custody), what's a common-but-not-universal demand (defund the police, for example) and what's just a opinion that's being spitballed around by a few people but doesn't get any real traction (re-name Victoria or Coon cheese). We tend to lump them all into one and then call the BLM movement "extreme" on that basis.

 

[tigs2010]

Tom Wills was also racist apparently. We’d better stop playing football just to be sure.

Richmond are doing a good job so far. Model citizens

 

[Demonic Ascent]

Is it still appropriate to call the EFC the "Bombers"?

may seem silly, but in the NBA (some years back) the washington Bullets changed to the Wizards as the image of violence in a city plagued by crime was deemed unacceptable.

Given we live in an age of Terrorism, should the EFC now be known as the Bumblebees?

Maybe they should go back to being called the blood stained n****s, something less politically sensitive

 

[matthew_s]

I think Dockers is problematic too, the working class is being exploited by evil capitalists. I for one would be a proud supporter of the Fremantle Proletariat

Have you heard the Freo song? (Genuine question...)

"Hit 'em real hard, send 'em down below"

Non-Freo Lives Matter.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

Think in the past few weeks we've figured out who the real snowflakes are - and it ain't those on the left of the political spectrum.

Agreed - they aren't snowflakes - the far left are extremely scary people with no openness to differences. They are a wolf in sheeps clothing. They have no affection for democracy either.

And i'm not talking about your left leaning Labor voter. I'm talking about your "i'm so anti-fascist that i'm facist" lefty. The type who will make progressive governments unelectable around the world until they are reined in by the average lefty.

 

[matthew_s]

Should all geelong players be forced to wear collars with bells when outside??????

 

[Marc_Remillard]

One thing that's missing in these conversations is nuance in our analysis of #BLM and the general push for racial equality. In particular, we're not great at determining what's a universal demand of the movement (end police brutality, end deaths in custody), what's a common-but-not-universal demand (defund the police, for example) and what's just a opinion that's being spitballed around by a few people but doesn't get any real traction (re-name Victoria or Coon cheese). We tend to lump them all into one and then call the BLM movement "extreme" on that basis.

The whole 'problem with indigenous deaths in custody' arguments are built on a lie and used to push agendas, much like the Uluru situation. Sadly the issues that really need to be addressed (domestic violence) are ignored

 

[iameviljez]

Should all geelong players be forced to wear collars with bells when outside??????

Only if they can all lick their own butts.

 

[Demonic Ascent]

Any team with an animal moniker supports poaching!

Thank god for mythical supernatural beings

 

[Black white]

Bombers have killed millions of people, better change their name whilst were at it.

 

[Blue1980]

No they won't.

This reminds me a bit of the approach that the likes of Fox News likes to take - drawing the longest hypothetical left-wing bow possible, and then using that extrapolation to get really upset over something that nobody is bothered about.

Yes, like the cancelling of Christmas, or defunding the police force.

 

[Inspecta Gadget]

Should all geelong players be forced to wear collars with bells when outside??????

 

[Demonic Ascent]

Forget the club songs, what about McAllister Elliot and McGuire and there gaffes about race and other various offerings down the years. One is still there boots and all.

"Gaffes" is an extremely polite way of putting it

 

[Black white]

This is what happens when organisations bend over to taking the knee.

 

[matthew_s]

Only if they can all lick their own butts.

As if Danger would ever need to lick his own butt...he has plenty of media to do that for him.

 

[Forward Press]

St.Kilda actually changed their colours in War time as reminded people of the time, too much of Germany.

Are Christians allowed to support Melbourne, seeing as they are the Demons ?

The road running past the old Subiaco Oval used to be called Mueller Rd but was renamed during the First World War.

Culture and what is acceptable or not acceptable is perpetually changing, it is never static. Christopher Colombus and James Cook statues were all the rage in the 20th century but this does not mean we should not have a conversation about them again when things like BLM gain traction.

 

[Demonic Ascent]

That wasn't the reason. It was because the owner of the Bullets was a close friend of Israeli PM Yitzhak Rabin, who was assassinated with a gun, and he didn't want to keep being reminded of that every time he heard the team name.

Of course, he then chose "Wizards" as a replacement, which was an odd choice considering Washington DC is mostly black, and the head of the KKK is called the Grand Wizard.

I thought it was more to do with the Washington sniper

 

[Demonic Ascent]

St.Kilda actually changed their colours in War time as reminded people of the time, too much of Germany.

Are Christians allowed to support Melbourne, seeing as they are the Demons ?

Depends, can Satanists support St Kilda seeing as they are the Saints

 

[Demonic Ascent]

That is the problem sometimes. These things need to be addressed but it is super hard to address them without being labeled racist. Of course I suspect it is partly down to a large amount of Aboriginal people living in rural and poor areas. Those two factors are usually strong contributors to domestic violence as well. The level of domestic violence in the poorer areas of Western Sydney is disturbing as well.

Yes, poverty and education are generally the prime indicators of violence and crime, not race.

 

[footyfan1978]

Depends, can Satanists support St Kilda seeing as they are the Saints

You'd hope not, if they true to their religion.

 

[iameviljez]

Yes, like the cancelling of Christmas, or defunding the police force.

Oh God that one. War on Christmas, my absolute favourite non-existent war.

 

[Demonic Ascent]

This is what happens when organisations bend over to taking the knee.

Right?! One minute organisations bend over to talking the knee, the next minute some random anonymous person creates a thread on the internet about some historical links to racism in a couple of club songs. It's madness I tell you, madness!!!

 

[Black white]

"Gaffes" is an extremely polite way of putting it

Melbourne, named after a British PM, will no doubt have something that offends the bed wetters so don't get too comfortable. Your team and city may get a name change too.
And demons will be mocking mental health issues.

 

[Demonic Ascent]

You'd hope not, if they true to their religion.

Well as an avowed anti-christian I guess it was fortuitous that I was born into a family that supports the Demons. Not so good from a mental health perspective though....

 

[Demonic Ascent]

Melbourne, named after a British PM, will no doubt have something that offends the bed wetters so don't get too comfortable. Your team and city may get a name change too.
And demons will be mocking mental health issues.

Look I'm just comfortable knowing my clubs President has never offended a group of people to such an extent that it caused them to point the bone and place a curse on us. Our curse was for sacking the best coach in the games history.