List Mgmt. Carlton's 2020 Draft Thread

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Blues fans would love watching Durdin. He is absolutely lightning fast out on the field.

I've seen some of those highlights on him zipping past players in the SANFL.

Need to be careful judging off that. The SANFL has a lot of bigger, slower players plodding around the park. It can make certain players appear much faster than what they really are.
 
If you want a ruckman, Shannon Neale would be a better option as he's super athletic and has the ability to play forward too. Perfect long term Casboult replacement if you ask me and would be a chance to be available at pick 31. He's a great size for that ruck/forward option too, currently standing at 202cm.

He's the type of player you'd look back on and say why wasn't he ever in the conversation as a top 10 pick. Like many other speculative prospects, he may well just be a serviceable 2's player bobbing up for the occasional game every now and then, but his upside is enormous given his size and athleticism.

He's also got that look about him that he means business and he tackles to hurt. We need more player like him. Also, when he goes in the middle, he's effectively a 4th midfielder. If we were ever looking at the prospect of playing two rucks, this guy would be the perfect foil for TDK rotating between the ruck and forward line.


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OK, this old bloke has been getting ultra frustrated with every second poster declaring we have to draft the Jones replacement KPD with one of our picks,
but as yet no one has come up with a name in our draft range. To date, Neale is more key forward than ruck and is excellent athletically. I would not be against drafting him to be groomed as the ultimate Levi replacement. KPF, ruck and particularly KPD development to play on the big boys. Plenty of mature ruck sized KPF around with Dixon, Hawkins, Daniher and co, the King twins and our own Harry will terrorise undersized defenders for over a decade, Thilthorpe to be added this year, and plenty of resting ruck threats about.

Might just be a master stroke. (I would still take Henry W as well if we could get both, a small forward and probably a DFA swingman type - Marsh as good as any)
 

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I've seen some of those highlights on him zipping past players in the SANFL.

Need to be careful judging off that. The SANFL has a lot of bigger, slower players plodding around the park. It can make certain players appear much faster than what they really are.
Thanks for the advice, I’ll be very careful judging off highlights videos in the future :rolleyes:
 
OK, this old bloke has been getting ultra frustrated with every second poster declaring we have to draft the Jones replacement KPD with one of our picks,
but as yet no one has come up with a name in our draft range. To date, Neale is more key forward than ruck and is excellent athletically. I would not be against drafting him to be groomed as the ultimate Levi replacement. KPF, ruck and particularly KPD development to play on the big boys. Plenty of mature ruck sized KPF around with Dixon, Hawkins, Daniher and co, the King twins and our own Harry will terrorise undersized defenders for over a decade, Thilthorpe to be added this year, and plenty of resting ruck threats about.

Might just be a master stroke. (I would still take Henry W as well if we could get both, a small forward and probably a DFA swingman type - Marsh as good as any)

The problem with finding a Jones replacement is the most suitable players in terms of size and attributes (DBG, Reid and Cox) will all be taken in the first dozen picks on draft night. Then you have someone like Cody Brand who would be in our draft range, however, he's tied to Essendon.

After that, the more highly touted KPD's are 193cm and under, so they're probably not the best fit for our side. A few are also tied to other clubs as academy players too. At the end of the day, if a Jones replacement isn't available at our selections, we need to see what other types are available. A summary of the remaining notable KPD's are extracted from the link below:

James Borlase: 192cm (Adelaide NGA player)
Jack Briskey: 193cm (Brisbane academy)
Heath Chapman: 193cm
Josh Green: 192cm (GWS academy)
Tom Highmore: 192cm

Maybe there's a few others that aren't covered in the article below, but at the moment, there just doesn't seem to be any obvious names that would be suitable for us.

 
Aaaaaaaaaand they’re off again :sleepsymbol::sleepsymbol::sleepsymbol:

Would you like some commentary on Mitch McGovern? :p
 
There's no doubt he hit the scene running and had an exceptional start to the year, but there are some guys who could potentially pass him in the long term.

Young with his elite kicking, Kemp with his size and mobility in the midfield, Ash with his line breaking ability, Jackson with his versatility and athleticism.

It's too early to make a call on who's the best from that draft.

Rowell was always the 'you know what you're going to get prospect.' He was always going to be a B+ to A Grade midfielder, but clearly didn't have the same upside or scope for growth as some of the other guys.
He’s very similar to Walsh in that respect although I guess Rowell’s exposed form was a lot higher I would still easily be backing the two of them in as being great picks.
 
Hawkins , Lynch , Cameron , Franklin , Kennedy , Dixon and Harry would all kick 10 goals on him every day of the week
No Speed or body positioning defensively he would get smashed. 3rd tall intercepting at best but certainly not a KPD
This, he will just get out bodies constantly, though I don’t think speed will be an issue. He has absolutely elite pace.
 
The problem with finding a Jones replacement is the most suitable players in terms of size and attributes (DBG, Reid and Cox) will all be taken in the first dozen picks on draft night. Then you have someone like Cody Brand who would be in our draft range, however, he's tied to Essendon.

After that, the more highly touted KPD's are 193cm and under, so they're probably not the best fit for our side. A few are also tied to other clubs as academy players too. At the end of the day, if a Jones replacement isn't available at our selections, we need to see what other types are available. A summary of the remaining notable KPD's are extracted from the link below:

James Borlase: 192cm (Adelaide NGA player)
Jack Briskey: 193cm (Brisbane academy)
Heath Chapman: 193cm
Josh Green: 192cm (GWS academy)
Tom Highmore: 192cm

Maybe there's a few others that aren't covered in the article below, but at the moment, there just doesn't seem to be any obvious names that would be suitable for us.

And, who thought Jones would become this when we first picked him up. Solutions appear, development happens in time, let’s see who and what appears in the years immediate future.
 
Since arriving to us Gov seems to have lost his timing and confidence..he has all the physical attributes to be a very good HBF. leap, leg speed and a penetrating/accurate kick...his input in the last two seasons up forward has been sh*te...he was moved for a short period to the hbf against Adelaide and look good...zero to loose giving him a shot otherwise fhimoff.
What we lose by doing that is Williamson or Plowman.
 
What we lose by doing that is Williamson or Plowman.
In regards to list management, I'm more interested in what we gain. All this talk about Key Defenders, Small Forwards and extra Ruckman sounds like talk of minimum requirements rather than optimum ones. There's no guarantees that we'll get the right players, especially with our picks. It's the player in question all over again; (we) thought we had a spot for him and he's just preventing us from developing someone better, it should be a cautionary tale. I think it's about time we tried to put the polish on and no matter what people pretend about McGovern, he was never that.
 

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Would you like some commentary on Mitch McGovern? :p



Isn't he out of contract. :think:
 
really like the durdin links. He sounds exactly like the type of player we need in our team. then henry walsh with our 2nd pick. Sorted
Where are these links coming from, or just chatter on here? Would like it to be true.
Is a younger better Levi . Can cover off as depth at both ends and Ruck
 
OK, this old bloke has been getting ultra frustrated with every second poster declaring we have to draft the Jones replacement KPD with one of our picks,
but as yet no one has come up with a name in our draft range
. To date, Neale is more key forward than ruck and is excellent athletically. I would not be against drafting him to be groomed as the ultimate Levi replacement. KPF, ruck and particularly KPD development to play on the big boys. Plenty of mature ruck sized KPF around with Dixon, Hawkins, Daniher and co, the King twins and our own Harry will terrorise undersized defenders for over a decade, Thilthorpe to be added this year, and plenty of resting ruck threats about.

Might just be a master stroke. (I would still take Henry W as well if we could get both, a small forward and probably a DFA swingman type - Marsh as good as any)

You're exactly correct. Even if we combine our picks 38 + 48, I doubt Reid or Cox will slide to a pick in the early 20s. Regardless of who we pick up in the draft we absolutely need mature ready made cover for Weiters/Jones. McDonald looks like the best DFA available, with Trengove and Daw not far behind.

I think it's worth a shot trying to combine our picks for an early 2nd rounder, because even if we don't get one of Cox or Reid (as that eventual Jones replacement in 2-3 years time), we can still snag a small forward. Laurie or Durdin look really good to me and fit in roughly that pick 20 range.

However, if Cox is still available at whatever our first draft pick is, we need to find a quality SF elsewhere. Rowe may be available by our 2nd draft pick, but if not I'd be happy with Matera as a DFA.
 
The more I look into this draft it really does seem as though there are five proven can’t miss prospects and then it drops off quite quickly.

No doubt there are some prospects with serious upside and potential like Perkins Cox Bruhn among others. I do feel like it evens out pretty quickly and there could be some bargains picked in the 20s, 30s and beyond.

In my opinion this was the draft to trade out of. Sure we could have gotten a better return in the Saad deal by splitting picks or whatever but I don’t think it will be a massive missed opportunity considering our draft position and list composition. Who would we have taken with Pick 8 if we still had it? Probably Bruhn, maybe Perkins if he slipped through or Macrae, Cox/Reid possible but unlikely.

Where do we think Kemp and Philp would go in this draft if they were somehow eligible to be drafted this year?

I may be extremely biased here but I’d have Kemp top 5 and Philp in the early-mid teens.
 
Durdin would be a good pick in that range, if the likes of Winder and Laurie don't slide. Others like Bowey, Preston also have appeal late
Would the likes of a Conor stone be of interest in the range our current picks are at? don’t know much about him just heard his name pop up and described as someone who sone potential.
 
OK, this old bloke has been getting ultra frustrated with every second poster declaring we have to draft the Jones replacement KPD with one of our picks,
but as yet no one has come up with a name in our draft range.
To date, Neale is more key forward than ruck and is excellent athletically. I would not be against drafting him to be groomed as the ultimate Levi replacement. KPF, ruck and particularly KPD development to play on the big boys. Plenty of mature ruck sized KPF around with Dixon, Hawkins, Daniher and co, the King twins and our own Harry will terrorise undersized defenders for over a decade, Thilthorpe to be added this year, and plenty of resting ruck threats about.

Might just be a master stroke. (I would still take Henry W as well if we could get both, a small forward and probably a DFA swingman type - Marsh as good as any)
This old bloke agrees. We are entering 'the window' and we don't need to be drafting any players for short term 'instant replacement' senarios. We just need to recruit well and have a crack at players who are ready to go - like Ben McKay or Harris Andrews if we can prize them away from their clubs in the next couple of years. Draft is now stricktly for long term projects now that we are through the rebuild, and a KPF/Ruck is where we lack depth and need to be planning for the long term when Levi is gone (as a 3rd ruck option).
 

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