Preview Changes and prematch discussion vs Swans

[Horace]

I’m not going to care about watching us until we start caring about playing footy.

Simple as that.

I certainly won't stop watching them. And rather than thinking that they don't care, I think instead that they have become so used to losing that they find it hard to get out of that mindset. Hence, when an opposition kicks a couple of unanswered goals, rather then gritting their teeth and knuckling down to just win the next clearance and the next after that and so on, they automatically think here we go again and they are over run.

It is simply not plausible to lay the blame at the recruiting, or the coaching or the game plan in these circumstances.

If we look at the recruiting alone, while some might say some players were taken ahead of where they should have been, by and large, if you go back and look at all the phantom drafts over the years, most players were rated to be taken around their pick.

If we look at the coaching panel, then who can fault a four time premiership coach? Who can fault Todd Viney in his role. Assistants such as Blakey, Monky, Ratten, Gibson, Adama are all well credentialed. Certainly Clarkson is bound to be hampered by the ongoing racism allegations and that needs to sorted out urgently.

Maybe we can fault the game plan.

But I am very much more of the view that as much as anything, the problem is between the collective mindsets of the players. They are conditioned to lose and lose they do. In my opinion the club needs to bring on board a highly experienced sports psychologist, to try to change the thinking.

 

[RossHenshaw]

I’m not going to care about watching us until we start caring about playing footy.

Simple as that.

 

[lockheed]

I certainly won't stop watching them. And rather than thinking that they don't care, I think instead that they have become so used to losing that they find it hard to get out of that mindset. Hence, when an opposition kicks a couple of unanswered goals, rather then gritting there teeth and knuckling down to just win the next clearance and the next after that and so on, they automatically think here we go again and they are over run.

It is simply not plausible to lay the blame at the recruiting, or the coaching or the game plan in these circumstances.

If we look at the recruiting alone, while some might say some players were taken ahead of where they should have been, by and large, if you go back and look at all the phantom drafts over the years, most players were rated to be taken around their pick.

If we look at the coaching panel, then who can fault a four time premiership coach? Who can fault Todd Viney in his role. Assistants such as Blakey, Monky, Ratten, Gibson, Adama are all well credentialed. Certainly Clarkson is bound to be hampered by the ongoing racism allegations and that needs to sorted out urgently.

Maybe we can fault the game plan.

But I am very much more of the view that as much as anything, the problem is between the collective mindsets of the players. They are conditioned to lose and lose they do. In my opinion the club needs to bring on board a highly experienced sports psychologist, to try to change the thinking.

Worth a go. We've probably tried everything else

 

[Makeshift Park]

hmmm could this be the game

 

[Ashley B]

Unfortunately Horace this is very true . I don’t know the stats but i would reckon the young and mid aged players would all be in the negative win loss ratio wise( quite a lot too)Losing becomes a habit and it can be difficult to turn the tide. We need to build up our on field leadership but it takes time , even more when you change coaches every couple of yrs.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Yep, Gulden in particular has gone beast mode last two games. Parker is a reliable performer. Warner looks amazing maybe one game out of three.

They got smashed at clearances by the dockers last weekend though.

Haven’t been a clearance dominator since Kennedy retired. They just smash teams on transition and through pressure.

 

[Horace]

Unfortunately Horace this is very true . I don’t know the stats but i would reckon the young and mid aged players would all be in the negative win loss ratio wise( quite a lot too)Losing becomes a habit and it can be difficult to turn the tide. We need to build up our on field leadership but it takes time , even more when you change coaches every couple of yrs.

Yes indeed.

And in my opinion, one thing that might help this, is to throw Jack back into a midfield role, rather than playing him down back, where he is no doubt one of our major contributors.

However, sending him back into some centre bounce action, where he is bound to give it everything as he does wherever he plays, might just prove to be the inspiration for some others to follow suit. Its surely worth a try.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

I would bring Hall in this week for one reason... to free up Sheezel to have a run in the midfield for a few week's while LDU is out which would be great for his development.

We're not in the business of winning games of footy right now so development of our youngsters should be the priority.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

hmmm could this be the game View attachment 1688580

Where he overtakes Dunstall?

Ambitious, but I like it.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Lmac bmac jz
Sheezel logue Thomas
Scott Cunnington shiels
Ford CCJ Stevenson
Wardlaw Larkey Philips
Goldie Jy Greenwood

Taylor, Bergman, Curtis, Powell, sub Howe

I think they are all fit?

looks good but I'd prefer anyone else be the sub over howe

 

[Ashley B]

Yes indeed.

And in my opinion, one thing that might help this, is to throw Jack back into a midfield role, rather than playing him down back, where he is no doubt one of our major contributors.

However, sending him back into some centre bounce action, where he is bound to give it everything as he does wherever he plays, might just prove to be the inspiration for some others to follow suit. Its surely worth a try.

Off point Horace I am a mad sports collector check out this pearler I just received

 

[Shermanator]

hmmm could this be the game View attachment 1688580

Black Caviar’s husband (Geraldo Whately) just got movement in his undies thinking about it..

 

[Makeshift Park]

Black Caviar’s husband (Geraldo Whately) just got movement in his undies thinking about it..

I can see it now, kicks one last bag of 10 on Saturday, mid-season retirement announced on Sunday.

 

[barnrokn]

I prefer to live in delusion right now

 

[Horace]

Off point Horace I am a mad sports collector check out this pearler I just received View attachment 1688666

Ah wow, what a wonderful player Superboot was. In full flight he was unstoppable.

 

[Marstermind]

Unfortunately Horace this is very true . I don’t know the stats but i would reckon the young and mid aged players would all be in the negative win loss ratio wise( quite a lot too)Losing becomes a habit and it can be difficult to turn the tide. We need to build up our on field leadership but it takes time , even more when you change coaches every couple of yrs.

Positions 1-5 of current 50 gamers with the worst W/L % are all on our list - McKay, Scott, Taylor, LDU and Larkey. Zurhaar, Hall and Simpkin are all in the top (bottom?) 20.

McKay & Scott are among the worst 20 W/L records of all time. Only one NMFC player is worse (Max Pitchford) and he finished up in 1930.

Unsurprisingly, no current NMFC player has a positive W/L for the club. Josh Goater is the closest - 2 wins, 2 losses. Darcy Tucker has the worst record - our 7 games losing streak coinciding with his introduction into the team. For players over 20 games the best is Cunnington (49.15) and the worst is Perez - 1 win from 21 games (4.76)

 

[Better Loosen Up]

Out: Corr, Perez, Mahony, Zurhaar, LDU, Tucker
In: Powell, Thomas, CCJ, Philips, Cunnington, Hall.

B: Ziebell McKay McDonald
HB: Hall Logue Bergman
C: Shiels Simpkin Scott
HF: Stephenson Larkey Thomas
F: Cunnington CCJ Curtis
R: Goldstein Sheezel Powell
Int: Taylor, Greenwood, Drury, Philips
Sub: Lazzaro

Cunnington is not a mid anymore. What he can be though, is an under-sized one on one forward where he is a more than capable contested mark and kick. His strength makes him a difficult match up.

Sheezel plays midfield while LDU is out and Hall frees him up to do that.

Powell needs to keep getting games. I still think he can make it as a mid.

 

[Rod Stroker]

I would bring Hall in this week for one reason... to free up Sheezel to have a run in the midfield for a few week's while LDU is out which would be great for his development.

We're not in the business of winning games of footy right now so development of our youngsters should be the priority.

I'd rather they bring in Wardlaw to replace LDU instead of bringing in Hall. Give the game time to the kids.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

I'd rather they bring in Wardlaw to replace LDU instead of bringing in Hall. Give the game time to the kids.

I still don't think he's 100% ready yet. Plenty of games left in the season so i'd rather stay patient. Wait till he tears up a game in the 2's getting close to 30 touches and make him earn his chance. That way, he'll be in the best possible position to make the most of it.

I think Sheezel has earned the opportunity and i think long term, he needs to be more than just a rebound defender for us.

 

[Ashley B]

Big Al did say he was reluctant to move Sheezel still as he is playing well at half back and can kick, something we lack down there.
I think in time when we start improving, hopefully sooner rather than later, he will be a mid-forward.

 

[Better Loosen Up]

Big Al did say he was reluctant to move Sheezel still as he is playing well at half back and can kick, something we lack down there.
I think in time when we start improving, hopefully sooner rather than later, he will be a mid-forward.

I disagree with Big Al. At this stage of the season, we shouldn't be holding back Sheezel's development just because his team mates are sh1t. We ain't going to be winning a meaningfull number of games for the rest of the season so development with an eye towards a long term future should come first.

 

[Ashley B]

I disagree with Big Al. At this stage of the season, we shouldn't be holding back Sheezel's development just because his team mates are sh1t. We ain't going to be winning a meaningfull number of games for the rest of the season so development with an eye towards a long term future should come first.

I will let you take that up with him lol. But in saying that , what you write certainly has Roger Merrett.

 

[Tas]

I think the game plan is still the major problem... outside the general lack of skill, we aren't playing a game plan that suits the players we have.

We can move names around the whiteboard but at the end of the day we have a fundamental problem with the pressure we apply, we actually do a lot of things... somewhat okay, but we just break down at some basic fundamental levels in terms of defensive structure and defensive instincts.

If I was out there I would have a lack of trust in my teammates in terms of their ability to stick a one-on-one tackle or position themselves in a zone where they can actually get to target and impact it in a positive way. You don't actually need a lot of skill to play defensive football, you just need to be well drilled and somewhat competent. We are too loose, we make too many mistakes.

If I was the opposition it would be an inevitability that if you just hold your structure, North will turn over the ball and then we can burn them on the rebound.

I missed the game last week but decided to torture myself and watch the replay and the first minute was basically fumbling with the ball from the centre bounce, Simpkin missing LDU with a handpass who was literally 2m away, LDU picking the ball up, missing Goldstein with a handpass who was 3m away and Greenwood applying a sloppy tackle allowing Port to get the clearance. Some more fumbling and missing targets down back, give away another stoppage free kick and Corr just ball watches instead of going to contest a ball in his zone and SPP takes an uncontested mark 20m out of goal and goals... then the game got a lot worse.

This is from the players who are meant to be leaders. You just are not going to be competitive playing that kind of footy. We are too easy to play against.

 

[justroyal]

Honestly, regardless of the injuries sustained. You would think that the in’s this week were just like for like replacements for the past two months.

Having Howe, Cunnington, CCJ, Hall, TT, Wardlaw, Phillips, Turner, maybe Powell, Lazzaro isn’t exactly a massive difference compared to what we’ve had

 

[tazaa]

Show some support. It's not like they trot this stuff out all the ti..

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..ok you may have a point.

Fukc KC

Just when I let all the negative energy out and feel like I’m over the shitness of Saturday you bring in this pearler

It’s so hard to figure out McDonald. You know he’s loves the club and he’s probably a good bloke too. But fukc me he can’t footy for shit and he has no place being an AFL captain, let alone an AFL level defender.
This campaigner should be sitting in the stands with us.

The worst thing is I believed the campaigner when he said we’d turn a corner. The issue is this muppet and his team turned another corner and did a full 180 back to being witches hats.

Shitmen. That’s what he is.