Preview Changes: R4 vs Essendon - Sunday April 10, 12.40pm ACST @ Marvel Stadium

[Bay62]

Official changes

In Sloane Tex
Out Fog Cook

 

[UcantCme]

Cook is a player you want to pump 50 games into as quick as possible. IMO he might end up the best of the 2020 draft.

Agree, add Pedlar as well

Cook and Pedlar shoukd play before Murphy and Rowe

We need to play high end talent first

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[Mutineer]

Agree, add Pedlar as well

Cook and Pedlar shoukd play before Murphy and Rowe

We need to play high end talent first

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Nope, they play different roles altogether.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

There's always a tricky few spots for players 21-24. Just in or just out of the team. Sub sometimes. Travelling emergency. Injury cover. Squeezed out when seniors come back etc.

It's inevitable and can't be any other way.

The club should be making sure that it's most talented young players aren't in that shuffle bracket.

They should either be in the AFL team properly for a decent stretch. Or in the SANFL getting full games and developing their craft.

Not stuck in limbo.

The limbo club should be made up of players like Murphy, Davis, Mackay last season, Hately Frampton, McAdam. Decent players, can hold their own at AFL level but not the players our future success hinges upon. It's no biggie if one of them misses a game. If Pedlar/Cook do, it is a negative.

 

[thebirdman 24]

There's always a tricky few spots for players 21-24. Just in or just out of the team. Sub sometimes. Travelling emergency. Injury cover. Squeezed out when seniors come back etc.

It's inevitable and can't be any other way.

The club should be making sure that it's most talented young players aren't in that shuffle bracket.

They should either be in the AFL team properly for a decent stretch. Or in the SANFL getting full games and developing their craft.

Not stuck in limbo.

The limbo club should be made up of players like Murphy, Davis, Mackay last season, Hately Frampton, McAdam. Decent players, can hold their own at AFL level but not the players our future success hinges upon. It's no biggie if one of them misses a game. If Pedlar/Cook do, it is a negative.

Couldn't agree more.

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[Godallblighty]

Thanks for that.

I just now from a scoring perspective, an open roof has led to less goals than a closed one. Aside from the horrible viewing on TV when its opened.

I dont get what the big issue, Melbourne generally has shit weather, so its better to always close the roof than to keep it open for that one or two rare days you can have it open.

I've lived here 30 years and Melbourne autumns are brilliant. Best time of year. What is shit is sitting in Docklands on a beautiful day with the roof closed.

 

[Dangarman]

I just hope we don't cop a Ninja level umpire reaming like GWS just copped against Freo. 42 to 16. Makes the infamous "28-12 towelling from the men in canary yellow" (to quote from The Roar back in 2016) look pretty tame. I don't think Razor gets many wrong, but Daniel Johanson and Jamie Broadbent paid some very purple coloured howlers.

Lots of soft frees against the Giants and missed an awful lot for.

 

[FR0GGY]

I've lived here 30 years and Melbourne autumns are brilliant. Best time of year. What is shit is sitting in Docklands on a beautiful day with the roof closed.

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Won’t someone think of the tv viewers!

 

[1970crow]

Guy loses half a year through injury, then gets played forward, then gets sat down for two weeks. The development is mind boggling.

there's 4 points on offer this week though. Hopefully we're destroyed early so Sloane can hobble off and gift at least half a game to Pedlar.

 

[1970crow]

Sloane and Tex in for Cook and Fog adds a full year to our team average age...

and unfortunately this is a key factor at selection. They also add strongly to the average games stat.

 

[1970crow]

Which senior players exactly are you advocating dropping?

Smith? Keays? Crouch? Laird? Brown? Dawson?

We had 10 'Senior' players total who had played over 60 games entering 2022. And to be honest I wouldn't consider Milera a senior player. Of those 10 - Seedsman hasn't played, Milera has been dropped, Sloane / Laird have missed 3 games between them and Tex hasn't played a single game.

We have been the youngest side in terms of Age and games played all 3 rounds.




Dude. Have a look at other lists. We are playing our absolutely most experienced side. Go ahead and find me another side that will have less than 6 players who have 75 games or more experience.

I think you are confusing tanking with rebuilding. With a list like ours there is no absolutely no way we can field a side with 22 players and not be rebuilding.

no senior player had to be dropped. But cooked and injured Sloane could have rested up another week and Tex could have loosened up in the 2s. It's funny how the apologists cry about never changing a winning team to support keeping out of form seniors in the side but we don't hear this so much when it comes to bringing back an injured and out of form senior to a winning side. Tex isn't anywhere near as bad a call, but it's still the wrong way to go.

 

[1970crow]

There was a chance Crouch's groin never properly recovered either, that's why players like Berry and Pedlar are drafted. What happens if Crouch isn't able to play again and our list management didn't bother recruiting for depth in inside midfielders?

Why would they move Laird to half back after he has just transitioned into the midfield and won our B&F doing so? He is a gun midfielder in his prime, so that is where he stays. Dawson, Murphy and Rachele have already all been rotating through the midfield in bursts.

If Berry and Pedlar were playing midfield right now I can guarantee this board would be whinging about something else they don't like with the team structure. A glass half empty attitude has always prevailed on this board, even in seasons like 2017, and I can't see that ever changing.

Glass half empty is correct way to assess our club. Even in 2017, where we won only enough games for a 4th placed finish in every other year. Of the 7 losses, we were beaten the same way every time and we never addressed it. How anyone can see the glass any more than half empty is beyond me. But then it's really only the usual unthinking shills like you, jen & Kristof.

 

[CrowBloke]

1) Glass half empty is correct way to assess our club. 2) Even in 2017, where we won only enough games for a 4th placed finish in every other year. Of the 7 losses, we were beaten the same way every time and we never addressed it.

2) The section in bold italics is untrue. Vs NM in Tassie (Round 6) we were beaten by inane into-the-wind-tactics. In short, they played really dumb footy on a wet, strong-wind day. The game was over by the end of the first quarter. Later, in a 3-point loss to Sydney on 18th August, it was an entirely different game. Those 2 losses are chalk and cheese. Also, the 2017 results are irrelevant to this thread discussion.
1) However, I am in the glass-half-full camp right now, but without being as grimly negative as you have been on this page.

While I loved the win against a depleted PA, the Crows mids are not delivering well, the game plan seems to be ad hoc on a game-by-game basis ('THIS week, let's try THIS ...") and Nicks keeps chopping and changing around the inexperienced players. Sloane was a poor selection choice imo.
If Essendon have improved from last year, I fear that the Crows are headed for a drubbing today.

 

[Jinglebells32]

there's 4 points on offer this week though. Hopefully we're destroyed early so Sloane can hobble off and gift at least half a game to Pedlar.

Pedlar won't be playing 2 games for the weekend. Cook is the sub

 

[Peter Doherty]

Pedlar won't be playing 2 games for the weekend. Cook is the sub

Yep, Cook sub.

We must have a travelling emergency as well, did Worrell play a full game? Sounds like Pedlar and Hately played full games, I only saw parts of it.

 

[Jinglebells32]

Yep, Cook sub.

We must have a travelling emergency as well, did Worrell play a full game? Sounds like Pedlar and Hately played full games, I only saw parts of it.

They all played full games except McPherson and Taylor that were injured. Commentators didn't mention that either of them were injured though

 

[1970crow]

Pedlar won't be playing 2 games for the weekend. Cook is the sub

didn't realise he'd played 2s, haven't read the SANFL thread yet. Cook is better, if Sloane's quad is going to go, I hope it goes early.

 

[1970crow]

2) The section in bold italics is untrue. Vs NM in Tassie (Round 6) we were beaten by inane into-the-wind-tactics. In short, they played really dumb footy on a wet, strong-wind day. The game was over by the end of the first quarter. Later, in a 3-point loss to Sydney on 18th August, it was an entirely different game. Those 2 losses are chalk and cheese. Also, the 2017 results are irrelevant to this thread discussion.
1) However, I am in the glass-half-full camp right now, but without being as grimly negative as you have been on this page.

While I loved the win against a depleted PA, the Crows mids are not delivering well, the game plan seems to be ad hoc on a game-by-game basis ('THIS week, let's try THIS ...") and Nicks keeps chopping and changing around the inexperienced players. Sloane was a poor selection choice imo.
If Essendon have improved from last year, I fear that the Crows are headed for a drubbing today.

the same way isn't referring to point differential or how long we were in the game, it refers to the method deployed by opposition that got them on top of us.

 

[whattagun07]

Looking forward to sitting down to watch this one.
Will chuck the kids in front of the ipad and crack open a beer
Then probably yell at the tv, bemoan the lack of midfield youth and gameplan.

see how we go, but I think Ess by 29

 

[latinoheat]

Looking forward to sitting down to watch this one.
Will chuck the kids in front of the ipad and crack open a beer
Then probably yell at the tv, bemoan the lack of midfield youth and gameplan.

see how we go, but I think Ess by 29

Is this on free to air?

 

[flashcrow]

Is this on free to air?

Yes, in Adelaide, but sadly delayed until 3:30pm

 

[Gtowncrow]

there's 4 points on offer this week though. Hopefully we're destroyed early so Sloane can hobble off and gift at least half a game to Pedlar.

Or we're well up when it happens...

 

[1970crow]

Or we're well up when it happens...

He’ll not go off if we’re going to win, he’ll want to be out there.

 

[Gtowncrow]

He’ll not go off if we’re going to win, he’ll want to be out there.

I hate bagging Sloane as he's been one of our all time great clubmen and played to a very high level for years.
However, based on his current on field performance, it's now clear that he can be easily replaced.

I keep thinking of last year and how Nathan Jones from Melbourne FC, displayed remarkable leadership when he could no longer justify a best 22 selection. True leadership in action and tremendous "team first" ethic displayed by the entire footy club.

As an organisation, are we that good?

 

[Scorpus]

I hate bagging Sloane as he's been one of our all time great clubmen and played to a very high level for years.
However, based on his current on field performance, it's now clear that he can be easily replaced.

I keep thinking of last year and how Nathan Jones from Melbourne FC, displayed remarkable leadership when he could no longer justify a best 22 selection. True leadership in action and tremendous "team first" ethic displayed by the entire footy club.

As an organisation, are we that good?

No

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Yep, Cook sub.

We must have a travelling emergency as well, did Worrell play a full game? Sounds like Pedlar and Hately played full games, I only saw parts of it.

Gather they may have flown over one or more of the other emergencies.

I prefer us playing them in the sanfl & risk them playing more than 1 game than missing out on any game time whilst we are in rebuild mode.

If we have a late out, Pedlar comes in & then one of the others becomes the sub. Unlikely they play a full game & even if they play most of another game, their minutes can be managed.