Strategy Changes Round 2 Fremantle vs. Sydney

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I was really disappointed with Noddy on the weekend. He just seemed a bit gun shy compared to his preseason form. He's got it in him to impose himself on a game of football. Needs to start this week.
He actually did pretty well. Lots to like about him in the middle
 
Agreed, but understandable when Jackson was having to play first ruck minutes, second ruck forward duties and mid too?
First few minutes of the game a boundary throw in in our forward pocket and Jacko runs down from midfield to take it while Reidy is standing like a stature in the other foward pocket Just dumb coaching and game plan
Why doesnt Jacko just stay a kick behind the play
 

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Expectations about Fyfe probably need to be that he can play a few good games amongst some not so good ones. If he is not producing something that helps the team then sub him out and rest him for a while.

Walters very similar. If he isn't impacting the scoreboard or helping create pressure in the forward line then sub him out and look at giving him a rest too. He is one of our best small forward options at this stage of the season however with our injury concerns and lack of form (and leadership) in the forward line.

Cox concerns me as he contributes very little if he can't mark the ball. His forward craft is questionable too.
 
He said that hadn't bedded down the changes they'd worked on and that's why he told them not to do it vs IAS (i.e. Vanilla). I am happy to take that at face value.

If you think there is some deep meaning behind it, good luck to you.
Not deep at all, as a non-coach (but sports player) I was simply puzzled why Freo would miss an opportunity to play their best way. To me the vanilla thing was a misstep. Agree to disagree.
 
3 years is a long time. He is even worse defensively, like, the guy doesn't give a shit and just jogs or walks around once someone other than him wins a ball.

It's honestly embarrassing watching. He would make it worse
Not trying to make excuses because he is a professional and should give his all in every situation, but getting effectively blacklisted the last two years after having such a good 2022 would likely have destroyed his motivation and demoralised him.
 
A bunch of highlights but that was all.

But in 2023 we gifted games to JOM after Brodie came off a career best year and basically ruin him whether at Freo or as a tradable asset
I’d imagine Brodie didn’t feature much in those highlights at all. His form since he was dropped (and after his ankle injury) has been putrid. No way he deserved to make the team based on his WAFL form last year.

Early after he was dropped he was still fine but he did an ankle not long after that so didn’t force his way into the team
 
Brodie isn't going to make a huge difference but gee whizz he's not suddenly had an arm amputated over the 22-23 off-season.

I don't really give a **** at this point about effort at Peel - the WAFL is a different game. He has literally already performed at a higher level.

Worner has always looked totally unimpressive at Peel to me and yet he gets a game.

I actually don't give much of a shit if Brodie does or does not play but I think the whole situation is kind of emblematic of what is wrong with JL's approach. Firmly sticking to what he thinks is a good plan when the evidence would suggest otherwise.
 
Brodie isn't going to make a huge difference but gee whizz he's not suddenly had an arm amputated over the 22-23 off-season.

I don't really give a **** at this point about effort at Peel - the WAFL is a different game. He has literally already performed at a higher level.

Worner has always looked totally unimpressive at Peel to me and yet he gets a game.

I actually don't give much of a shit if Brodie does or does not play but I think the whole situation is kind of emblematic of what is wrong with JL's approach. Firmly sticking to what he thinks is a good plan when the evidence would suggest otherwise.
It’s not just Brodie. It’s also Erasmus. He may have shortcomings but gee he has more then earned a spot for dominating Peel.
Instead Worner gets a look at the wing, beside being nothing but underwhelming off half back for Peel. That’s such a poor message.

Sure Brodie haven’t had a great 2024, but coming off 2022 he was suddenly dropped to appease JOM, who has done **** all for 3 years. Such a bland move.
 

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Brodie isn't going to make a huge difference but gee whizz he's not suddenly had an arm amputated over the 22-23 off-season.

I don't really give a **** at this point about effort at Peel - the WAFL is a different game. He has literally already performed at a higher level.

Worner has always looked totally unimpressive at Peel to me and yet he gets a game.

I actually don't give much of a shit if Brodie does or does not play but I think the whole situation is kind of emblematic of what is wrong with JL's approach. Firmly sticking to what he thinks is a good plan when the evidence would suggest otherwise.
Worner performed better at WAFL level than Brodie. Both in league b&f votes and club b&f. Would’ve won Peel’s b&f if he played as many games as Ras
 
Hardly a serious hit out. Rucked against a no body.I can not even think of his name.
Not sure he is too big to be a fulll on mid.He looks good when he has played that role.
He is not a number one ruckman.
The question was - has he played as an inside midfielder. During that game he did play inside while reidy rucked. There was some handy mids in the all stars he played against
 
Expectations about Fyfe probably need to be that he can play a few good games amongst some not so good ones. If he is not producing something that helps the team then sub him out and rest him for a while.

Walters very similar. If he isn't impacting the scoreboard or helping create pressure in the forward line then sub him out and look at giving him a rest too. He is one of our best small forward options at this stage of the season however with our injury concerns and lack of form (and leadership) in the forward line.

Cox concerns me as he contributes very little if he can't mark the ball. His forward craft is questionable too.
On Cox I’d play him out of the square. Can’t hurt to at least trial it. Has very good hands overhead. Chappy to take his place at HB and provide some mobility. I still can’t get my head around him being made the sub.
 
On Cox I’d play him out of the square. Can’t hurt to at least trial it. Has very good hands overhead. Chappy to take his place at HB and provide some mobility. I still can’t get my head around him being made the sub.
Something needs to be done about him. Looked good in the pre season games but probably had more clangers than disposals last week. Loooks way off. At least if he went forward it would free up Amiss a bit more.
 
Are you dropping a key forward? Or will he back up ruck?
I’d send Amiss down to Peel to gain some confidence. He looks a shadow of his former self. Let him bully WAFL FB for a couple of weeks and kick some big bags and then bring him back in.

Jackson to ruck it alone and Voss to pinch hit when he gets on the pine. I heard Kingy talking about Hayden Young this morning and I honestly think he is Freo most important player. I can’t believe Kingy is in the Freo tent. Hes still big on Freo despite the loss.
 
I maybe the only person thinking this, but I don't think Fyfe will play this week against Sydney, the club said they are going to very cautious with how they inject him into the side and build his body up. furthermore, Fyfe didn't participate throughout the entire Peel match, I saw him doing running drills up and down the 50 at Half Time and he didn't participate in the match from that point on. I think the club is going to have him play a full match with Peel this week to get him match fit and then possibly return him for the Derby.

That's my take on the whole Fyfe situation

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I think nobody thinks Fyfe will play this week tbh


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It’s not just Brodie. It’s also Erasmus. He may have shortcomings but gee he has more then earned a spot for dominating Peel.
Instead Worner gets a look at the wing, beside being nothing but underwhelming off half back for Peel. That’s such a poor message.

Sure Brodie haven’t had a great 2024, but coming off 2022 he was suddenly dropped to appease JOM, who has done **** all for 3 years. Such a bland move.
TBF, and IIRC, Brodie played the first 5 games of 2024 but wasn't going well so he was dropped. I think his 2023 last few games weren't great either. He was dropped on (lack of) merit, not to give games to other players. And all the ITKs say he has not been a consistent Peel performer. That's why he has fallen down the order. such a pity, he was a revelation when he started in 2023.
 
I can't believe we are still doing Will Brodie discourse.
It is because we are grasping at straws to try and prove that the selection committee went out and fundamentally picked the "wrong" team for the game and that they have been picking the "wrong" team for some time and that there is some magic answer in the cupboard that we have not been selecting; there is a lot of trying to work back from that idea and then come up with examples of why we picked the wrong team going on.

In reality, the only player that we picked that probably didn't have good form going into the game was Reidy; but then half of us also pegged ourselves to the idea that we needed to pick him to allow Jackson to play elsewhere, which is probably also where the selection committee arrived at as well. The other half of this board think that Voss can magically play backup ruck but I have seen nothing to suggest that he can. I think the truth is that had Voss played over Reidy then Treacy (or maybe Cox) would have had to have been the one to do the backup rucking. Again, I think most people (including the selection committee) are very against that on the basis that it exposes Treacy (or Cox) to getting injured again.

People will point to Worner, Banfield and Walker (they will always have their detractors, including myself for the first two), but honestly, they had good form in the pre-season games to justify going with them first, and a lot of the first cut flankers were already out with injury - they also look a lot fitter than many of the options that could be brought in. The flankers weren't the main reason we got smashed; we got smashed in the middle.

Of those midfielders that played in the centre (outside of the Top Tier of Serong and Brayshaw) O'Driscoll, O'Meara and Johnson all had good to reasonable pre-season form and where all orders of magnitude better than Brodie. We clearly went at it with an offensive mindset from the centre bounces, which aligns with what everyone wants to see from the coaching team, but at the end of the day we couldn't pull it off with the personnel that we had out there, and we could neither defend well or attack with precision.

The fundamentals of the selection table are that we need Darcy and Young to be available to play in the middle more often than not; and it's not like we aren't trying to make that happen as soon as possible and with the consistency needed to get to the final eight. I am not saying that Longmuir has got everything right, but I am honestly not sure what other things they could have pulled at the selection table, especially if we are focused on getting players up to that consistent level of availability.
 
Not deep at all, as a non-coach (but sports player) I was simply puzzled why Freo would miss an opportunity to play their best way. To me the vanilla thing was a misstep. Agree to disagree.
That's the whole point, we hadn't developed it enough for it to be our "best way". Makes perfect sense not to roll it out and have it torn to shreds because you haven't practiced enough.
 
I'm worried we rush Bolton back.
Has been playing prominently inside mid for Peel last season. Does get in and dirty so to speak.

Probably surprised given there’s adequate midfielders out that can do that role and allow NOD to stay on the wing
He'll stay inside until Young comes back most likely.
 

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