Preview Changes vs Richmond

[Jdawgz]

Really needed Stewart in imo, means Westhoff can play his proper position

is he injured or just didn't get picked?

 

[Shaucob_Burjan]

Only thing that can make selection worse is to use Young as a sub behind Gray and Mitchell.

 

[El_Scorcho]

Our forward line on Sunday:

And as we know, the Wizard has to sacrifice himself for the good of the team at a relatively early stage.

 

[bart7575]

I think the majority are in agreement that the major issue with our lineup is probably just the lack of another forward option, and that we can't do much more about Trengove & Bobby than we are doing.

Given that, I thought I'd just raise a couple key stats:
- Port are still #1 in the comp for marks inside 50. While it may appear we are crying out for another tall forward, this would certainly indicate that we dont.
- Port are still #1 for inside 50's in the comp. Indicating that we are still getting it in there a lot. So if we are marking it a lot as well, maybe our biggest issue is the ability to actually finish, and/or win the ground ball.

Maybe the coaching staff and their analysis is just showing a lot different stuff than what the majority on here want to believe. I mean you only have to look at the negativity around Pittard and then actually look at the positive results he has got statistically to see how the eyes and bias are skewing views around here.

I for one will trust that they have a plan and an idea of how to get us back on track, as they've got us this far and I think we will get back on track this week.

Finally!!

 

[chachi11]

What is it with the constant S.Gray inclusion ffs..!!
Has done heck all since his debut against a depleted Brisbane team, and yet is the first in..???

If Young is the sub I will lose my shit...!!!

 

[Coobk001]

Finally!!

Sorry didn't realise you'd been waiting so long for me to finally do 1 decent post. I promise the next one wont be so many posts away

 

[Coobk001]

If Young is the sub I will lose my shit...!!!

Ditto. YOUNG MUST PLAY!!!

 

[bart7575]

Sorry didn't realise you'd been waiting so long for me to finally do 1 decent post. I promise the next one wont be so many posts away

Ha ha more so finally common sense but well played

 

[Long live PAFC]

If you are travelling it would be a waste to have players like Young, Neade, Newton and Gray sit on the sidelines when they could be having a crack at SANFL and getting more out of it.

Strange that Gray has surpassed Neade in the pecking order - I didn't think Neade had done too much wrong and is a better crumber.

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

I said this last week but if young is sub I will eat my shoe

 

[Forzaport]

I said this last week but if young is sub I will eat my shoe

Better start marinating now then.

 

[El_Scorcho]

Given that, I thought I'd just raise a couple key stats:
- Port are still #1 in the comp for marks inside 50. While it may appear we are crying out for another tall forward, this would certainly indicate that we dont.
- Port are still #1 for inside 50's in the comp. Indicating that we are still getting it in there a lot. So if we are marking it a lot as well, maybe our biggest issue is the ability to actually finish, and/or win the ground ball. Theoretically with this stat we should have the most marks, however we should also be putting a far greater score on the board and maybe the coaches are seeing that our ability to get the ball at ground level when it is in there is a problem.

We have such good statistics because of our ball movement. Against poor sides, we just move the ball far too quickly for them to stop us. Nobody is questioning our ability to put poor sides to the sword.

Our problem with being too short comes when we face a decent, hardworking defensive side who can pressure our ball movement. All of a sudden the other team is holding us up and getting back as fast as we can get forward, which clogs up space. Our ability to win the ground ball is compromised because the guys who should be crumbing are forced to fly for a mark all too often. Essendon and Adelaide ran the ball out of our forwardline with ease because of this.

Add a tall or two to our side and we have a lot more control over the ball coming in the air, especially in a contested situation. Butcher doesn't even have to clunk a lot of marks to have an impact, just being able to compete for the high ball so the likes of Wingard, Gray and White can shark the pack would make a massive difference to our forward entries.

 

[Coobk001]

We have such good statistics because of our ball movement. Against poor sides, we just move the ball far too quickly for them to stop us. Nobody is questioning our ability to put poor sides to the sword.

Our problem with being too short comes when we face a decent, hardworking defensive side who can pressure our ball movement. All of a sudden the other team is holding us up and getting back as fast as we can get forward, which clogs up space. Our ability to win the ground ball is compromised because the guys who should be crumbing are forced to fly for a mark all too often. Essendon and Adelaide ran the ball out of our forwardline with ease because of this.

Add a tall or two to our side and we have a lot more control over the ball coming in the air, especially in a contested situation. Butcher doesn't even have to clunk a lot of marks to have an impact, just being able to compete for the high ball so the likes of Wingard, Gray and White can shark the pack would make a massive difference to our forward entries.

I dont necessarily disagree, as I want Butch in. All I'm saying however is I'm not going to be one to go nuts in this thread like many others after a little mid-season slump. I've got a lot of confidence in our coaching group and I believe they have analysed the negatives and benefits and I will give them another week or two before I start to hand down my own final conclusion, which a lot of people have been very quick to jump to.

Also last week was lost because of gameplan structure (wet weather) and ball use reasons, not selection, so when we start losing based on selection then I'll really join the chorus.

 

[Honeyboy Wilson]

I dont necessarily disagree, as I want Butch in. All I'm saying however is I'm not going to be one to go nuts in this thread like many others after a little mid-season slump. I've got a lot of confidence in our coaching group and I believe they have analysed the negatives and benefits and I will give them another week or two before I start to hand down my own final conclusion, which a lot of people have been very quick to jump to.

Also last week was lost because of gameplan structure (wet weather) and ball use reasons, not selection, so when we start losing based on selection then I'll really join the chorus.

The "chorus" was around when we were winning, we thought the wins were covering cracks that were there but being ignored because we were winning.

 

[Garibaldi Red]

is he injured or just didn't get picked?

He is back this week with the Maggies after an injury

 

[Andre]

Strange that Gray has surpassed Neade in the pecking order - I didn't think Neade had done too much wrong and is a better crumber.

We aren't playing the talls to crumb at the feet of. Sam Gray is more of a leading, marking small than Neade. Plus Gray can cameo in the midfield. Now I don't want Sam Gray playing (FFS Butcher!), but I can see why he's ahead of Neade with our (laughable) forward structure.

 

[RossFC]

If you are travelling it would be a waste to have players like Young, Neade, Newton and Gray sit on the sidelines when they could be having a crack at SANFL and getting more out of it.

Strange that Gray has surpassed Neade in the pecking order - I didn't think Neade had done too much wrong and is a better crumber.

Neade has not really been setting the world on fire in the SANFL.
When Gray gets dropped to the Maggies he normally backs it up with a 25-35 possession game.
Gray being able to go in the midfield gives him a good advantage in getting picked over Neade.

 

[Steve Dore]

is he injured or just didn't get picked?

Stewart has been out injured since the Melbourne game. First game back in the SANFL this weekend. Named as a follower.

 

[wilbur_15]

Stewart has been out injured since the Melbourne game. First game back in the SANFL this weekend. Named as a follower.

With Monfries out now I wouldn't be averse to seeing Stewart as a defensive forward/lead up forward. Also, what do people think of Logan playing the defensive forward position? I actually think he has a good goal sense and obviously his defensive pressure is great so could do quite well in that role.

 

[Shaucob_Burjan]

The thing with Gray is that his SANFL performances are in the midfield and everytime we bring him into the AFL we leave him in the forward pocket.

 

[Andre]

The thing with Gray is that his SANFL performances are in the midfield and everytime we bring him into the AFL we leave him in the forward pocket.

So we'll just yell out 'Go BRETT!' whenever he's near the ball then.

 

[edgie]

Honestly, how many shots do people expect Butcher to shank? 3 or 4? That isn't going to cost us a game.

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[Janus]

We have such good statistics because of our ball movement. Against poor sides, we just move the ball far too quickly for them to stop us. Nobody is questioning our ability to put poor sides to the sword.

Our problem with being too short comes when we face a decent, hardworking defensive side who can pressure our ball movement. All of a sudden the other team is holding us up and getting back as fast as we can get forward, which clogs up space. Our ability to win the ground ball is compromised because the guys who should be crumbing are forced to fly for a mark all too often. Essendon and Adelaide ran the ball out of our forwardline with ease because of this.

Add a tall or two to our side and we have a lot more control over the ball coming in the air, especially in a contested situation. Butcher doesn't even have to clunk a lot of marks to have an impact, just being able to compete for the high ball so the likes of Wingard, Gray and White can shark the pack would make a massive difference to our forward entries.

If you think Richmond is that hard working defensive side, you haven't been watching too many Richmond games

 

[Steve Dore]

Honestly, how many shots do people expect Butcher to shank? 3 or 4? That isn't going to cost us a game. .....

Yeah, it's not as if we ever lose by less than a goal or two.

 

[El_Scorcho]

If you think Richmond is that hard working defensive side, you haven't been watching too many Richmond games

I don't. We'll beat Richmond easily, which will further this illusion we seem to have that structure doesn't matter, and we'll crash against Collingwood or something.

I don't bet on Port games but 1.55 on sportsbet are fantastic odds for a side we should crush.