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Yarran is a super talent imo. Just his last contest that let him down on friday.
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I would trade him for a bag of peanuts.
Yeah, I agree he is a super talent, he has won Carlton a couple of games this year.
I think it was just a misjudgement rather than any great personal character failing. He misjudged the flight of the ball and was expecting it to go high and over the back of the contest, he was trying to position himself to be the first to run back onto it. Turns out his judgement was wrong and his opponent marked it.
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Yeah there is also the possibility it was a miscommunication. I mean in fairness to Yarran, if Henderson was an elite kick who had the confidence to put it over his head then it was definitely the right option imo. The problem was he didn't and video footage of the piece of play looked terrible for him
It was a mistake and it looks bad for him.
But hey, there's lots of 200 game players that made a howler or two early in their careers. Talk of trading him out from others in this thread, based on one match; is a bit severe.
Go back far enough and listen to the delist Michael Walters posts. Its all the same, Yarran is a gun. < full stop
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Further to Yarran's body language, I was amazed how many Carlton players were looking at themselves on the big screen at the quarter time break while Mick was trying to get his message across.
Not a good look when the coach is reviewing the tapes after a close loss.
Not a good look when the coach is reviewing the tapes after a close loss.
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Mick screwed up in naming him as sub.
Armfield should have been the one.
And as for his "effort" against Winderlich...dear god wake up Chris.
Armfield should have been the one.
And as for his "effort" against Winderlich...dear god wake up Chris.
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What?
Robinson is the one who struggles if he has to kick forward with numbers back and no clear targets ahead of him on a lead.
Oh come on, I know he's possibly your favourite player, but let's look at the facts.
Carlton had stopped Essendon's momentum towards the end of the last quarter. Essendon kicked four goals in nine minutes, but Carlton took the lead with a goal at about the 15th minute mark, with both sides trading points, and Essendon hadn't scored for roughly 14 minutes. It was quite possible that the match would have ended with a gallant, yet unsuccessful surge by Essendon.
So Carlton had stopped Essendon's momentum to degree, they just needed to keep composure, and run out the clock, like many sides have done. They had the ball in their hands, it was clear from Henderson's kick that he was hoping, assuming perhaps that Yarran would take the mark, kick along the boundary (after all, you are the boundary kings, and that's certainly not going to stop with 90 seconds left and a 1 point lead) and either hope for a Carlton mark, a throw up a ball in or one of the players to get the ball towards goal. In essence, he assumed, since he had played the percentages, that Yarran was on the same page and would read the situation. At first, Yarran was (kinda), with 2:20 second left on the clock, one can clearly see Yarran leading Widerlich to the ball. I assumed that Yarran would mark, or at the least, get first possession. So Henderson obviously kicked it to a leading player.
But no, Yarran went to the "let's kick the sealing goal with a dash along the boundary" page, which I doubt any of his teammates were on, why did he think that was a good idea? Trying to be a hero? Perhaps, it might be a little unfair, but it is possible. It was probably the worst idea possible, Carlton didn't need to attack, after all, they were leading. They needed to play possession football like Geelong have done before when in a similar position. Go watch their match against Hawthorn, in two occasions, late in the game, Geelong players either chipped it to teammates, or kicked it down the line in attempt to get the ball into safe territory. Nothing fancy, nothing like dropping off your opponent so you can get the kick out of the back, all simple really basic stuff. As Matthews said, you have to play the ball on its merits, this wasn't Matthews playing the dramatic media instigation role, he just made a fair comment about Yarran.
Huh? This is not about Robinson. I know you wish to criticise Robinson, possibly because he was substituted and it makes Malthouse look like a genius, possibly because you're trying to deflect. Either way, I know that Robinson didn't pull that move in the last quarter which lost your team the match. Lucas and Yarran made key blunders in key moments, they're good players but they need to not make crucial errors in such games, especially as, being two high draft picks, they're supposed to be very good talents.
And yes, I'm well aware Richmond has a habit of playing like idiots with a minute to go, so no need to point that out.
Fact is Henderson failed to kick the ball to Yarran's advantage. If Yarran lacked anything in that passage of play it was not football intelligence, but application, resilience and determination.
But isn't that that's required at those times? Just the effort to win the contest and not try and make the big play? I just think Yarran picked the wrong thing to do at the wrong moment, he didn't sum up the situation well. He could have easily led and taken that mark, which was what was required, but didn't. I'm not saying he's a dumb footballer or anything, just that he made the wrong choice at the wrong time.
And Henderson did kick the ball to his advantage. As much as I would want to criticise Henderson given our last conversation, Henderson kicked the ball towards Yarran with Yarran leading to the ball, maybe it was a bit of a floater for Yarran to grab it, but if that's the case, Yarran should have stuck by Winderlich to make sure he didn't get the easy ball. Henderson was under pressure, stuck in the pocket and just needed to kick it out, Yarran was the closest target. Maybe Henderson deserves some blame for the goal, but I think he can be excused. He also looked very tired at the end, and played a pretty good game, Yarran was fresh and probably should have bailed Henderson out. He also berates Henderson which is pretty harsh IMO.
LOL. Errant kick or not, to not even bother to compete for the ball and then turning your back on your opponent inside D50 to publicly berate your team mate in a pressure situation with the game on the line, is unacceptable. Poor effort from Yarran.
I don't agree with any of this. It was Henderson that picked the wrong play and kicked the ball not only to Yarran's positional disadvantage, but to the disadvantage of his strengths as a player. Just a pity given the great game he'd played up that point. Where Yarran fell down was not an issue of "football intelligence" and neither is something his game lacks; in fact, generally (albeit not consistently) he sums up situations and space pretty well and has good vision to match. There were other deficiencies at play here.
Agree though that he should not have had a shot at his teammate.
One thing is for sure though, you don't blame losing the match from being 5 goals up and should have been further, to one 22yo kid who came on in the last quarter as the sub.
Just on that, how was White in that match. As I said, not a world beater, but took on Crameri and curtailed his influence. Most definitely an AFL standard performance from him. And Lachie too. 5 contested marks and several spoils. Perhaps you see why some are rating him and Jamison higher than Chaplin and Rance, even if you don't agree?
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