List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade and FA

[YouBeauty]

I love how people talk about Houston and HB as if there are rigid positions in AFL. Some games there are probably 6+ HBs when the mids press up.

 

[josewales]

Who gets 36?

We drop it on the floor and pick it up on the way out

 

[gerryg400]

Who gets 36?

Port, you would think.

 

[Matt_352]

Who gets 36?

Port just edited it

 

[stormskye]

Not sure how’s it’s misleading. One of Reef’s games was 10%tog. Just crunched the numbers and it was 1.44 goals in an average of 54.3%tog (more than I thought it’d be). Kreuger was 1.17 goals and averaged 62.7 in 6 games but he did spend time in the ruck. To put the McInnes return into context, only McStay and Mihocek averaged more goals per game than McInnes who is ranked =49th in the league, = with Dylan Moore who averaged nearly 87%tog.

Molly, I remember reef had a purple patch in the VFL during the end of 23, where he was marking and kicking goals from everything. It was great viewing. I thought he was going to have a break out season in 24, It just didn’t eventuate. He was very poor in the vfl, or atleast poor compared to what he needed to produce. We all hope he comes on, but there’s only so much time one can get. Gut feel says he gets one more. Will see

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

How about this:

Port Give: Houston, and their Future 1st.
Port Get: Pick 13, Richards and Lukosius and Pick 36

Suns Give: Pick 13, Pick 23 and Lukosius
Suns Get: Noble, Pies Future 1st and Port's Future 1st

Pies Give: Noble, Richards, Pick 36 and our Future 1st
Pies Get: Houston and Pick 23

This sounds almost too simple.

 

[JuniorB]

Who gets 36?

Dane Swan.

 

[unplugged]

Port just edited it

I'm sure it it's a three way it'll be that, but maybe even more complicated. Maybe a future second swap between teams or something. Clubs love to make things messy to make it harder to gauge a "winner"!

 

[LuckyLee]

How about this:

Port Give: Houston, and their Future 1st.
Port Get: Pick 13, Richards and Lukosius and Pick 36

Suns Give: Pick 13, Pick 23 and Lukosius
Suns Get: Noble, Pies Future 1st and Port's Future 1st

Pies Give: Noble, Richards, Pick 36 and our Future 1st
Pies Get: Houston and Pick 23

That would brilliant for us but I think you’re dudding Port a bit. Doubt they’d agree to it.


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[Hardas]

Molly, I remember reef had a purple patch during the end of 23, where he was marking and kicking goals from everything. It was great viewing. I thought he was going to have a break out season in 24, It just didn’t eventuate. He was very poor in the vfl, or atleast poor compared to what he needed to produce. We all hope he comes on, but there’s only so much time one can get. Gut feel says he gets one more. Will see

That game where he got concussed was looking likely...

 

[cfc19902010]

That game where he got concussed was looking likely...

Try him back
He’s taller than murph

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

 

[nahnah]

Port fans not happy
Carlton fans not happy

 

[JuniorB]

Port fans not happy
Carlton fans not happy

Which makes Pies fans happy.

 

[swoop42]

I think originally we came into this trade period with no draft capital.

Then John Noble and Richards happened and we suddenly had a couple of pieces that interested both GC/Port.

That's fair but I'm still scarred by missing out on the likes of Lynch and Cameron (who were both Collingwood supporters as kids were they not?).

I still stick by the notion however we've been kissed on the d*ck with some extraordinary good fortune on multiple fronts.

Most years a pick starting outside the top 10 wouldn't get you within striking distance of a dual AA, while what's the odds the 2 players in trade motion from us just happen to be wanting to get to the 2 clubs we need to deal with to land Houston.

I hope we don't stuff it up.

 

[Lockyer24]

If I was list manager my main aims would be strengthen midfield and youthful spark. The former was the reason I felt we had really bad lulls for 3 weeks twice this season.

Maybe Jordy and Mitchell and an emerging Allan helps this but I’m not too positive yet.
Jiath could be a bolter to fill the Murphy void.

I’ll be on board if we nab Houston to replace Noble but I can’t help but think we need more than just Perryman helping that midfield. Also are we sure we don’t need a first pick next year for McGuane? Are they just making the draft points system more valuable at the top end.

One area I am positive on is our forwards if they all remain fit.

 

[stormskye]

That's fair but I'm still scarred by missing out on the likes of Lynch and Cameron (who were both Collingwood supporters as kids were they not?).

I still stick by the notion however we've been kissed on the d*ck with some extraordinary good fortune on multiple fronts.

Most years a pick starting outside the top 10 wouldn't get you within striking distance of a dual AA, while what's the odds the 2 players in trade motion from us just happen to be wanting to get to the 2 clubs we need to deal with to land Houston.

I hope we don't stuff it up.

Just don’t tell anyone that Houston is worth way more than Rioli

 

[sam_e]

Not sure how’s it’s misleading. One of Reef’s games was 10%tog. Just crunched the numbers and it was 1.44 goals in an average of 54.3%tog (more than I thought it’d be). Kreuger was 1.17 goals and averaged 62.7 in 6 games but he did spend time in the ruck. To put the McInnes return into context, only McStay and Mihocek at Collingwood averaged more goals per game than McInnes who is ranked =49th in the league, = with Dylan Moore who averaged nearly 87%tog.

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/reef-mcinnes.1249200/post-84628813

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/reef-mcinnes.1249200/post-84584205

 

[stormskye]

If I was list manager my main aims would be strengthen midfield and youthful spark. The former was the reason I felt we had really bad lulls for 3 weeks twice this season.

Maybe Jordy and Mitchell and an emerging Allan helps this but I’m not too positive yet.
Jiath could be a bolter to fill the Murphy void.

I’ll be on board if we nab Houston to replace Noble but I can’t help but think we need more than just Perryman helping that midfield. Also are we sure we don’t need a first pick next year for McGuane? Are they just making the draft points system more valuable at the top end.

One area I am positive on is our forwards if they all remain fit.

I’m bullish on Allan. Perryman looks good to me. Pretty sure Next year you can trade 2 years in advance, we won’t have issues getting Mcguane if he is a first round as projected.

Add to this there’s LDU and Richard’s as potential FA we can chase

 

[Axl the great]

If we can land Huston and keep 23 for the draft for Noble F1 and Richards then even I would do that. Apparently the age is reporting that is the deal we are going for

If we get Houston, Perryman, and Tomlinson, and get to the draft with 23, that is a stunningly good trade period for us.

 

[Jasper84]

Not sure how’s it’s misleading. One of Reef’s games was 10%tog. Just crunched the numbers and it was 1.44 goals in an average of 54.3%tog (more than I thought it’d be). Kreuger was 1.17 goals and averaged 62.7 in 6 games but he did spend time in the ruck. To put the McInnes return into context, only McStay and Mihocek at Collingwood averaged more goals per game than McInnes who is ranked =49th in the league, = with Dylan Moore who averaged nearly 87%tog.

All good points. But if you look at the league leaderboard for goal average, you'll see Sam Day at 13, who played 5 games at similar game time to Reef. Day has been delisted despite averaging 2.0 goals per game. I'm just not sure goals per game average is a good metric for players that only play a handful of games in a season

 

[ksardog]

That game where he got concussed was looking likely...

Yep, against the crows. Looked like it was going to be his break out game, then dropped a simple mark, went to make amends, then concussed himself in the process.
Prefer him up forward with stints in the midfield than playing him back.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

I'll believe it when I see that welcome thread.

I'll only believe it when I see the club post it on their socials & he's got the guernsey on at the AIA Centre being photographed & telling us how great it is to finally be a true Magpie

 

[jimmy35]

Gullan Brad Johnson and Huddo on trade day Foxtel all barracking urging Carlton to pull the trigger on Houston and use pick 12


Really quite sickening the media

Sounded desperate didn’t it.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

The Age isn't reporting anything about this.

Yeah they have.

Collingwood, Essendon in the thick of trade action with interstate clubs

Collingwood are aiming to secure dual All-Australian Dan Houston for a pick and a player in the hope they can retain a selection in the first round of this year’s draft.

www.theage.com.au