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Latest news and rumours:

• Tom Barrass officially requests trade to Hawthorn
  • Duffield: Eagles want two first round picks - "It may have to be in this year’s draft rather than a future pick."
  • Morris: Josh Battle is set to join Barrass at Hawthorn in 2025 - Ralph: Unclear if Hawks will pay enough for Band 1

• Kysaiah Pickett interested in a trade
  • "Club and management are confident they can work through his concerns"
  • Daniels: Pickett’s preference is Fremantle. Fremantle are keen, but Bolton the priority. Getting both “not impossible”. West Coast “an option if things get complicated.”

• Jai Culley, Coen Livingstone, Loch Rawlinson in line for one-year deals (The West)
  
  
• Liam Baker and Shai Bolton
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  Shai Bolton

  Age

  26

  Ht

  176cm

  Wt

  77kg

  Pos.

  M/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  12.3

  3star

  K

  6.9

  3star

  HB

  5.4

  4star

  M

  2.8

  3star

  T

  2.9

  4star

  CL

  1.4

  4star

  D

  12.7

  3star

  K

  9.2

  4star

  HB

  3.5

  2star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  2.7

  4star

  CL

  1.8

  4star

  D

  9.2

  3star

  K

  4.6

  2star

  HB

  4.6

  4star

  M

  2.0

  3star

  T

  2.6

  4star

  CL

  0.0

  1star

  officially request trades to WA
  • Daniels: Bolton is Fremantle’s priority

 

[ArdentEagle]

I personally would have thought Chess to HBF.

Probably the easiest position to learn the game from while still playing to his strengths.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

I personally would have thought Chess to HBF.

Probably the easiest position to learn the game from while still playing to his strengths.

I’m not sure he has the game sense at the moment to read the play and get himself in the right position.

On top of that, we aren’t using hand balls to get it into a rebounding defenders hands in the way that Collingwood or North look for Daicos/Sheezel to rebound out of D50.

Putting chesser at hb wok just mean we see chesser stuck in no man’s land, not getting used, and probably getting burnt by his team mates and exposed by his direct opponent.

Inside mid is a more straight forward role at this point in time.

See ball, get ball, run, spread.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

From Matt Rendell when he was still a recruiter at Collingwood, scouting the U16 Championships.

Article is a good read.View attachment 1946913

A recruiter’s notes on the AFL draft crop of 2021

“Not a big head.” “Never seen a player get from contest to contest with such ease.” “Good luck tackling him.” Nick Daicos was one of the under-16s assessed by former Collingwood recruiter Matt Rendell back in 2019. Here’s what he had to say.

amp.theage.com.au

U12s?

 

[THE A5]

Be nice to have a fresh set of eyes wouldn’t it…

This. As much as Simmo needs to go, he did wonders to so many of our players after he took over from Woosha. Team started to fulfill their talent after it stagnated towards the end of Woosha’s time but players like Bunga and Shep actually thrived after Simmo came in

 

[Cuzz09]

Half back line

Chesser Gov Harley



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[Seadog]

We need to spend some serious money on development coaches, not just appoint ex fringe Eagles players who need a job.
Doesn't matter who we draft if their development is hampered by poor coaching.

 

[ghostbat12]

Duffs right. Wouldn’t mind seeing chess play a bit of midfield. Has the tank, size and speed as well. TK at times played hff and we could possibly explore him doing that more and see more chess inside. Heck finding out chess is more of a mid than a wingmen would actually be a massive win for considering how many times we’ve drafted guys and found out out they aren’t mids.

He might not be an extractor but I reckon he’s probably has tools to be a player like trealor. That 3rd/4th mid thats a bit outside leaning, has toe and can run and use the ball well

Ah the good old “it’s the position” problem.

If he managed to average 15-20 possessions per game, you could trust and give him a go in midfield.

At the moment he is struggling and let’s not pretend we have a Patrick Cripps in our midst playing out of position. He isn’t playing FF.

 

[DanWCE]

We need to spend some serious money on development coaches, not just appoint ex fringe Eagles players who need a job.
Doesn't matter who we draft if their development is hampered by poor coaching.

Agreed. So far the Shuey appointment seems to be a success though. Come up against three impressive midfields and have improved remarkably in stoppages compared with the past two seasons. Some of that is the availability of Elliot Cheat Code Yeo, I'll admit.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Agreed. So far the Shuey appointment seems to be a success though. Come up against three impressive midfields and have improved remarkably in stoppages compared with the past two seasons. Some of that is the availability of Elliot Cheat Code Yeo, I'll admit.

Isn't it because we throw numbers around the ball and then have no one to kick it to? Turnover, murdered on the counterattack.

 

[1Bally1]

What is the go with Burgiel

 

[ROO DOGG]

What is the go with Burgiel

Got a sore foot from kicking too many goals in the WAFL.

 

[1Bally1]

But seriously is he gonna get a game

 

[DanWCE]

Isn't it because we throw numbers around the ball and then have no one to kick it to? Turnover, murdered on the counterattack.

Lots of teams play this way. We're late to the party and far less polished with it.

What's your preference, that we get our hands on the ball first now but are still learning the outside transition game, or that we just don't get our hands on the ball at all?

FWIW we lost hitouts and still doubled Dogs centre bounce clearances where the numbers are equal..

 

[Seadog]

But seriously is he gonna get a game

He had his appendix taken out last week I believe, so will be a while yet.

 

[ROO DOGG]

But seriously is he gonna get a game

He was looking good before his appendix decided to sh#t itself. Out for several weeks.

 

[eaglevision]

Lots of teams play this way. We're late to the party and far less polished with it.

What's your preference, that we get our hands on the ball first now but are still learning the outside transition game, or that we just don't get our hands on the ball at all?

FWIW we lost hitouts and still doubled Dogs centre bounce clearances where the numbers are equal..

For all the criticisms our CB work has actually improved significantly. A lot of that has to do with a fit Yeo on both offence and defence but can’t say it hasn’t improved.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Yeah i get Rozee too. Maybe it’s his black hair and build but certainly get those vibes

Butters for me, with less of a lethal kick.

 

[JackOutback]

Ah the good old “it’s the position” problem.

If he managed to average 15-20 possessions per game, you could trust and give him a go in midfield.

At the moment he is struggling and let’s not pretend we have a Patrick Cripps in our midst playing out of position. He isn’t playing FF.

He is a young kid making his way in the game in a tougher environment than most kids. Hopefully when Sheed comes back Chesser, Reid and Ginbey will all get stints on the inside at HBF and HFF flank for a bit of confidence and to see what best suits each player. These kids should still be learning different crafts of the game.

 

[Goroyals22]

I’d take the opportunity of having brockman out to move Reid in to the forward line with stints on ball.

Move chesser inside and Johnston to a wing.

It still gives flexibility to change in game if needed.

We’re losing by big margins anyway. Why not take the opportunity to explore.

Please.. surely we have seen enough to know the coach has imagination or will to move players mid game or during the week to different positions to see how they go. He has pigeonholed everyone so where they start the game is where they finish.


And yes I am calling you surely


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[Ambrose Burnside]

Lots of teams play this way. We're late to the party and far less polished with it.

What's your preference, that we get our hands on the ball first now but are still learning the outside transition game, or that we just don't get our hands on the ball at all?

FWIW we lost hitouts and still doubled Dogs centre bounce clearances where the numbers are equal..

Hands on the ball is always better than not, obviously, but at the moment the only players who do are Yeo and Kelly.

Can't wait for the next generation to start picking up more than 15 touches a game at most. Gonna be a long rebuild

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

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Chesser Gov Harley



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I think ginbey would be better off spending time behind to ball more than Harley.

Give ginbey a lock down role to stop an opponent then look to work hard to give options when we have the ball .

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

Please.. surely we have seen enough to know the coach has imagination or will to move players mid game or during the week to different positions to see how they go. He has pigeonholed everyone so where they start the game is where they finish.


And yes I am calling you surely


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Trying to find something to believe in. Something to look forward to.

Holding on to a faint possibility that things might change in that regard.


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[Chris_6678]

I want to see Chesser in the guts in the way Gaff used to roll though.

 

[WCEswift]

Jaiden Magor 20 year old at the swans SA boy played well on the weekend could be a cheaper option to bring in at the end of year.

22 disposals 9 marks
28 disposals 7 marks

 

[Deepthroat]

Any track watcher over there seeing a decent young outside mid option we could target in the Mid Season draft?

Our inside players did well last weekend, it would be fantastic to find a longer term wingman type floating about in the two's.

Any Swan Districts fans have an opinion on Jye Chalcraft?