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Whose future picks would you have preferred?

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

  • Jai Culley, Alex Witherden and Coby Burgiel delisted






  • Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones and Jordyn Baker delisted

 
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Hook461123 said:
Agreed we need that type of player. just think with our current list we need a gun mid while we have a top 3 pick. Once we start moving up the ladder a bit a HBF /Wing at 6 or 7 seems about right. At the moment we have noone who gets a lot of possessions. Plus we need someone to help Harley in the middle. Yeo is getting old and is 1 injury away. Ginbey looks more suited to half back and Kelly is probably suited more outside/hff. Our midfield is so shallow that adding a HBF at 3 seems a bit off.
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Except he is as close to a guaranteed gun half back as minimum AND potentially be a top line mid. Similar to Will Day. He starts down back and after three seasons moves I to the midfield.

Wonder what they classed Hird at in his draft year?
 
eaglevision said:
Would be great but if we get Graham it’s zero compo. Another well thought out recruitment.
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Fair chance we delist him anyway, I’d have thought.
 

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ghostbat12 said:
Sounds like it was two from hawks, with our 2nd going back. Then hawks first for baker and a 2nd.

So trade barrass and our pick 20 for

future hawks first , pick 21 and baker.

Keeps a future first for attack on Warner, especially if freo trade some of their picks into 2025.

Unfortunately for freo, they are in a bit of a bind. They would rather go for Warner but Bolton available now. Which is more of what they need now.

If I was a betting man, trust freo to cut themselves at their knees. Back out of Bolton and then lose Warner because Harley is going to be significantly better next year and players will want to play with him.
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God I hope so, would be hilarious
 
shooshka said:
Surely we aren’t getting or expecting compo for Rotham…




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No idea what the proposed contract is but with multiple clubs reportedly interested and if Rotham is prepared to move interstate I don’t think it’s unreasonable to consider that it’s at least a couple of years in length and band 5 (pick 42) could be in play.
 
Obeanie1 said:
Except he is as close to a guaranteed gun half back as minimum AND potentially be a top line mid. Similar to Will Day. He starts down back and after three seasons moves I to the midfield.

Wonder what they classed Hird at in his draft year?
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If he's top draftee/mid coming in through we will not he slow burning him mid given our mid deficit.

He will likely follow the Ginbey route and chucked in mid day one. Hence the issue.

We may be the worse team to develop versatile players.

I'm not opposed as long as we keep pick 13 for Xavier Lindsay.
 
That Gettable episode was a huge punch in the guts. Maybe besides the Warner sweepstakes.

Sound like we are not at the top of the queue for Peatling. To me sounded like us and Saints were just thrown in there.

I want Baker but pick 13 is putrid. The extras on that trade would be interesting. Still not sure why he has to be the one who wants to see how the trade will be done before nominating. Great fit for us but not for over paying.

Still nibbling around Shai Bolton. I want McQualter for some reason and I love Shai but is absolutely not the right fit for us right now.

Going by that info we would be hoping Bolton and Baker both go to Freo this year. Means we would have to be in front for The Chad next off season.

Trade Bell with Sam Edmund was a bit more of a positive. Links us with Riley Garcia and said both have a 2 year deal in front of him but we could put bid them if needed.
 
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Bacchus said:
You should have a much better chance of getting a quality player at #13 than #25. I know it doesn’t always work like this. Chad Warner was #39. What a stroke of brilliance that was.

Of course, the competence of the recruiting team is a factor in all this. Sadly, I don’t have a lot of confidence in ours.
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But you are also getting a quality player on top of that? (some don’t see it that way)
 
eaglevision said:
No idea what the proposed contract is but with multiple clubs reportedly interested and if Rotham is prepared to move interstate I don’t think it’s unreasonable to consider that it’s at least a couple of years in length and band 5 (pick 42) could be in play.
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So in the world we get 42 for Rotham. Can we still sign a DFA list (Parfitt) and it won’t water it down? It’s only signing RFA and UFA that would do that?
 
Yippy Yi Yeo said:
You dont seriously believe the swans trade a contracted Warner along with 18 and their F1 for 3 and our F1 do you? Jesus some of these suggestions are delusional
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I don't think so personally but two pick 3's for Warner would certainly be overs so it is not unreasonable to think that something would come back with Warner.
 

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Yippy Yi Yeo said:
They aren't going to trade a contracted superstar for anything but overs, let alone 2 big upgrades, albeit big ones.
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This year, sure. He is in for a big pay day soon, which will put pressure on the Swans to fit him in or move him on.
 
eaglevision said:
No idea what the proposed contract is but with multiple clubs reportedly interested and if Rotham is prepared to move interstate I don’t think it’s unreasonable to consider that it’s at least a couple of years in length and band 5 (pick 42) could be in play.
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It would be heavily relying on his age to get any compo, as I doubt he would earn more than the amount required to move him out of the bottom 30% of wages.

He probably gets 2 years, maybe at $250-300k. That isn’t getting us compo (good for him though, as I think we are more likely than not to delist him).


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Yippy Yi Yeo said:
You dont seriously believe the swans trade a contracted Warner along with 18 and their F1 for 3 and our F1 do you? Jesus some of these suggestions are delusional
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Swans cannot get a better offer than our 3 and F1 as a starting point. Certainly a very likely top 3 pick. So what are then their options if not acceptable?

Warner is an excellent player, no doubt, but he isn’t a franchise player yet. Swans also get $1.5m in salary relief which allows them to chase other players along with two top 3 picks.

Thats a lot for one player. We would need something back. Warner isn’t worth 2xfinn Callaghan’s yet. Daicos is.

Climbing up to top 3 in draft is not like trying to get to pick 6. It’s an exponential thing in terms of trade assets.
 
What are peoples thoughts on Finn Maginness? Would he consider a move for better role and guaranteed games.
Could he be an option in the Barrass trade, so a 1st and FM for Barrrass, instead of the proposed 1st, and F1 for F2 being thrown around.
Perfect age profile, is a more than capable mid with great endurance, who we know can also tag/shutdown, all 3 things we either are very short on or dont really have. Stats dont scream elite but tags most the time so not his primary obj buts looks like he could if given the freedom.
We still get a 1st rounder this year, and keep our F2, lose Barrass but fill a hole with a young but mature player.
 
ziad said:
versatile athletic player with height and pace. HOT property
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This would all be very true on paper and if we didn’t have eyeballs. I’m bang up for snaring a late pick for him though. I’d imagine we’d have to put on a serious game face and hold back the laughter if we roll out ‘required player’ when the time comes though
 
shooshka said:
It would be heavily relying on his age to get any compo, as I doubt he would earn more than the amount required to move him out of the bottom 30% of wages.

He probably gets 2 years, maybe at $250-300k. That isn’t getting us compo (good for him though, as I think we are more likely than not to delist him).


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Yes his age is part of the reason we could get pick 42 for him. If he has multiple suitors as reported I think the salary will be more than you’ve suggested, particularly with the cap increase. As I said I have no idea what the offer might be but it would be unusual for a player his age not to generate some form of free agency compensation*.

*unless of course, the AFL don’t want it to.
 
plays tall 1 said:
The purpose of trading Barrass is to get draft picks in to fast track the rebuild. If the lion’s share of the Barrass compo is spent getting Baker in, who’s only one year younger and playing in a less critical part of the ground, it will be an epic fail by Clarke.
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The purpose of trading Barrass is he wants to go.
 
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