List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[neng]

I’d say getting Battle in for nothing changed their thinking

It’s a business, they’ve played it well. They owe Barrass nothing

Except they committed to him. TBs manager will be pissed and can have negative influence over future negotiations and interactions with Hawthorn.

Player managers have way too much influence nowadays - but in this instance, it may just help us.


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[RookiePick]

I suggest we add an FU2 to the deal.

 

[WCErevival]

Would people accept a F1 and F2 without the F3 of ours going to Hawks? So just Barrass for F1 and F2?

 

[Boohemian]

Hawks can GGF. Welcome back Tommy.

 

[Convocation]

Do we get back into this years draft if Barrass leaves us?
If so, who would trade with us, and what could we get for one of the following deals trading back into this years draft?

• 2 future firsts between 15-23
• 1 future first & 1 Future second
• 1 future first & 2 Future seconds

If Warner leaves next year and nominates us, surely we play a similar game to what the Cats are with Bailey Smith

3

Bailey Smith

Age

24

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

(albeit for pick 1-5 as opposed to 17), so the futures are not as important as people are saying. Nice to have, but the deal gets done regardless.

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

I don't think Hawthorn really want him now. They got Battle. Barrass was the back up option they no longer need. I think they will just keep making offers they know we won't accept and then at the end of it shift the blame to us and say they made x number of offers and it is our fault for refusing them all. All they care about at this point is getting out of this with the blame being split between us and them rather than the stink being all on them.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Hasn't there been an embargo for hours? Deal could have been made hours ago and it gets announced at 4pm, no?

I bet we will just end up accepting their original offer after all this...

 

[Barrybran]

And then... When Hawk's finally come to the table with 2x F1's, ask for Spider Everett as well, then hang up.

Ask for two F1's and then add DGB in the last hour just to mess with them

 

[pantskyle]

Hawks future 1st and x2 future second rounders for Barrass? Hawks keep Carlton future 1st rounder. We go to next draft with x2 firsts and x3 seconds.

Ok kyle.

 

[wce4premiership]

Tom Barrass

37

Tom Barrass

Age

29

Ht

197cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.2

3star

K

8.8

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

6.1

5star

T

0.9

3star

MG

158.5

3star

D

10.1

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

2.1

2star

M

5.6

5star

T

0.3

1star

MG

139.6

2star

D

11.4

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

0.4

3star

MG

160.0

3star

- 2025 John Worsfold medallist.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Would people accept a F1 and F2 without the F3 of ours going to Hawks? So just Barrass for F1 and F2?

Reckon that's what the Hawks are betting on. They'll offer that last minute imo

 

[Barrybran]

Would people accept a F1 and F2 without the F3 of ours going to Hawks? So just Barrass for F1 and F2?

Would we? Likely yes. But given where we are, I would just stick with 2 x F1's or F1 + 2 x F2's and leave it in Hawthorn's court.

 

[javaguice]

TB to sit out next season?

 

[Byron_Clanger]

They dug in on the wrong deal. I hope this is a lesson to the new blokes running the club that being nice to oppo teams in the past means sweet dick for the future.

GET THE BEST DEAL FOR YOURSELF ALWAYS

 

[ep2018]

I feel like keeping Barrass is required to show other clubs we wont trade players for unders however accepting the current offer would be way better for our rebuild then to keep him. Tricky spot to be in.

 

[Bender_]

Hopefully someone has subdued Clarke. Bound and stuffed him in a cupboard until the trade deadline passes.

Sounds like he might attend the same "special Northbridge club" that Carbine Chaos is a member of.

 

[eaglespremiers]

Reckon that's what the Hawks are betting on. They'll offer that last minute imo

I feel like they'll fold.
They don't strike me as a team that walks away from a player they've committed to.
Particularly when Barrass will make them substantially better.

 

[Mr Q]

Ask for two F1's and then add DGB in the last hour just to mess with them

Probably getting a little late to faff around with the deal now.

2x F1 + DGB and we send back a F3. If they wait five minutes, it's a F4....

 

[Peptide Pig]

Any of the other nine VIC clubs, feel free to jump in with a decent offer now?

 

[Dark Sharks]

TB to sit out next season?

Why on earth would he do that?

 

[squashface]

TB comes back to the club on a revised deal which runs for only 2025 so he’s a free agent at the end of next year and we get Band 1 easy done

 

[eaglespremiers]

Why on earth would be do that?

And the season after that....

 

[Lyyynnnchy]

Except they committed to him. TBs manager will be pissed and can have negative influence over future negotiations and interactions with Hawthorn.

Player managers have way too much influence nowadays - but in this instance, it may just help us.


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Clubs don’t owe anything to players. This “commitment” word is BS. Only Weat Coast uses it and it doesn’t seem to impact other clubs

Essendon - despite being the acknowledged as being th worst club to deal with, get involved in plenty of deals

Same goes for Geelong

 

[RookiePick]

TB comes back to the club on a revised deal which runs for only 2025 so he’s a free agent at the end of next year and we get Band 1 easy done

TB would have to have literal brain damage to give up the security of his contract.

 

[Barrybran]

Probably getting a little late to faff around with the deal now.

2x F1 + DGB and we send back a F3. If they wait five minutes, it's a F4....

An F4 is not bad actually. Has no trade value but is a pick that can be used.