List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

[Keys]

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Barrybran]

58/59 will be close-ish to the end of the draft. They will come in, but it is a deep draft so pick 50 vs 60/65 or even RD are all pretty similar.

Outside of that it is a lot of effort and cost to get an extra pick inside the first 12.

Sure, we get Baker (can be done independently of the hawks F1), but give up the hawks F1 and our F2 plus downgrade 3 to 6 to facilitate it (and get 9).

2x 1sts this draft and 2x next draft is a better option imo. Balances out our build.


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How's the next draft shaping up at the top end compared to this draft?

 

[mat11]

Unless they get some later picks in trades would they bother bidding at 63?
No chance they're bidding at 27 (wherever that ends up actually being)

If they keep the majority of their first round picks, I reckon they'd be petty enough to have a crack with 27

 

[tigger_ferret]

If they keep the majority of their first round picks, I reckon they'd be petty enough to have a crack with 27

And I don’t think we match a bid that high

 

[mat11]

And I don’t think we match a bid that high

Yeah something that high would throw a spanner in the works for us, few really good players we should be able to get from 40 onwards

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

After careful consideration, I've come to the conclusion that... JTL

 

[Keys]

Fremantle are likely trading for Bolton, possibly Baker and are looking at Martin

Why would they bid as early as 27 on Champion who isn’t rated that highly in any rankings I’ve seen

 

[CountryLad]

Fremantle are likely trading for Bolton, possibly Baker and are looking at Martin

Why would they bid as early as 27 on Champion who isn’t rated that highly in any rankings I’ve seen

I think you just answered that yourself.

 

[mat11]

Fremantle are likely trading for Bolton, possibly Baker and are looking at Martin

Why would they bid as early as 27 on Champion who isn’t rated that highly in any rankings I’ve seen

-27 probably becomes late 30's

• not sure Martin/baker be on their radar
• small fwd an area they need
• son son is old af and like for like

 

[Tugga27]

-27 probably becomes late 30's

• not sure Martin/baker be on their radar
• small fwd an area they need
• son son is old af and like for like

Martin has done a medical for Freo.
So there's obviously interest there.

 

[Keys]

-27 probably becomes late 30's

• not sure Martin/baker be on their radar
• small fwd an area they need
• son son is old af and like for like

Martin has done a medical with them

Baker is considered 60/40 between us and Freo based on what’s been reported

I haven’t seen Champion rated inside the top 40 by most ratings so even if 27 slips into the 30’s it’s still high

 

[Barrybran]

-27 probably becomes late 30's

• not sure Martin/baker be on their radar
• small fwd an area they need
• son son is old af and like for like

If the Dockers secure Baker, they won't have pick 27.

 

[Godfather32]

If they keep the majority of their first round picks, I reckon they'd be petty enough to have a crack with 27

I don't think they would bother considering how deep this draft is. I think you're confusing Cockburn fan's pettiness with the club itself.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Fremantle are likely trading for Bolton, possibly Baker and are looking at Martin

Why would they bid as early as 27 on Champion who isn’t rated that highly in any rankings I’ve seen

Pyke and Garlic would have had a chat about that

 

[eaglevision]

Pyke and Garlic would have had a chat about that

Exactly. By most accounts we’ve broken bread. We could ruin their draft next year if they play silly buggers. I don’t except a Freo bid on Champion.

 

[EagleEgo]

For those interested to watch some of the local talents, Channel 7 is broadcasting the WAFL colts grand final - Claremont Vs Swan District at 12:00 noon.

 

[Monocle]

Martin has done a medical with them

Baker is considered 60/40 between us and Freo based on what’s been reported

I haven’t seen Champion rated inside the top 40 by most ratings so even if 27 slips into the 30’s it’s still high

Keys I wouldn't be too worried about Champion being bid on early as IMO I think he will go really late and could even be a rookie.

I have plenty of players that I would draft before him as I think he has been very underwhelming this year.

 

[Keys]

Keys I wouldn't be too worried about Champion being bid on early as IMO I think he will go really late and could even be a rookie.

I have plenty of players that I would draft before him as I think he has been very underwhelming this year.

I agree

Was posting in response to a suggestion Freo might lodge a bid as early as 27 which made no sense

Think we’re safe with pick 59 being sufficient to match a bid as that covers anything from 45 onwards

 

[Goomba1973]

Unless they get some later picks in trades would they bother bidding at 63?
No chance they're bidding at 27 (wherever that ends up actually being)

if they bid 27, they can have him.

 

[mattyc75]

I don't particularly want us chasing or paying a premium for him him either, but there's really no point referencing Bakers stats fellas. He's the opposite of a chip scab or someone who pads stats. His value is more than that.

He's highly rated for a reason. He's a quality player, without carrying the tag of being a star. The bloke has won the award for the AFL's most courageous player and carries respect across the entire competition. Legit the opposite of Tim Kelly

11

Tim Kelly

Age

30

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.6

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

10.1

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

4.0

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

19.9

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

7.6

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.7

5star

CL

3.6

4star

D

21.6

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

11.2

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

3.8

5star

as far as leadership goes IMO.

Wouldn't say no to that sort of leadership coming to Flag Coast to set an onfield/offfield example for our younger players.


If you can get all that guaranteed for a second round pick (23) it might be annoying, but really not the end of the world. I want to load up on top 30 picks this draft as much as anyone but it's not all doom and gloom with Baker if we do end up getting him, a bit of perspective is needed.


Our team is instantly better with Baker in it. Regardless of how many people think he's a shit utility/nothing player.



Now, if you'll excuse me..

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Yeah it's a bit odd sometimes, some players get derided because they have no positional versatility, some do because they've got too much

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[mattyc75]

Baker wasn’t on our Cat B list. He was moved to the rookie list last year to make space for Livingstone. Dewar is the other Cat B rookie

If there’s no bid on Champion we’d need to promote Dewar to the rookie list and then take Champion as a NGA (Cat B)

Or rookie list champion?

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[BartBart]

Do you think a surcharge will cause the death of regional and nga academies ? Im sure it would be detrimental to the afl with less kids coming through professional programs as seen with the drop in indigenous players recently . Clubs would have no reason to spend money on academies at all . Maybe the afl could cover the costs of all academies and take away any priority selections besides father son access.

The reason for NGA to continue is the free access they get to match any bid.

That is a massive advantage even if they get 1 good player through over a few years.

 

[Keys]

Or rookie list champion?

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I’m not 100% on the rules but my understanding is we can match a bid in the main draft and if there’s no bid we can prelist him as a Cat B rookie but not as a regular rookie listed player

And there’s no matching in the rookie draft, so if we didn't list him as a Cat B, Richmond or North could draft him before our pick

So if there’s no bid we move Dewar onto the rookie list, like we did with Baker last year, then prelist Champion as a Cat B after the main draft

 

[Priddis Is Done]

Barras F2 for 13 F1

Hawks F1 and 3 for 6 9 and baker.

Darling for 58.

6 9 13 23 58 59

6 Lalor/Smillie/landford. One will slide.
9 trevaglia
13 Lindsay/allen
23 Tauru/Whitlock
58/59 champion bid or a slider and champion


Draft 5 kids
Graham and baker.




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Terrible deal for us. Terrible.

Please let Cockburn come to the party and draft him so we have no choice in the matter.

 

[Mulldogg]

Sidebottom for Swans colts. Any relation to Garry? Grandson possibly?

 

[Barrybran]

Terrible deal for us. Terrible.

Please let Cockburn come to the party and draft him so we have no choice in the matter.

How would that deal be terrible for us?