List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Cuzz09]

A lot of melting happening folks

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[Jupes]

let freo have him for 10. problem solved.

 

[Cuzz09]

Probably be something like Baker and F2 for pick 13.

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[CountryLad]

We should be able to do better than this

Maybe, could do worse too. Already chat of pick 13 for Baker since my post. That’s a fair bit worse.

Also in all honesty pick 13 and hawks f1 with our F2 going back isn’t that much better than pick 13 and hawks f2 with nothing going back.

 

[random260]

Probably be something like Baker and F2 for pick 13.

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Then just keep TB. They can keep their F2.

Seriously if we are going to chop our legs make sure we get something good. And that's not good

 

[Byron_Clanger]

Pushing out the door a rare as hens teeth top key defender on the tail end of his prime and using the pick we get for him for a run of the mill, B grader is quintessential post 2018 flag West Coast.

I ain't even melting, that just sounds like something this era of West Coast WOULD do. I've accepted it.

 

[eaglevision]

The proposed deal is 13 for 21 and Baker.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Every team needs an elite rebounding half back. They are just as important as elite mids.

We don't have any.

And he looks like a Will Day type who can transition to midfield. Has done so to limited degrees already.

Because TT is flexible and can play defense and wing / on ball where other u18's are mids and just mids shouldn't rule him out as a potentially great mid.

Yep, all good. But, we can't take that risk at pick 3. We need to hit on a guaranteed gun mid. Not someone with risk, even if they might potentially end up fractionally better in the long run.

 

[random260]

The proposed deal is 13 for 21 and Baker.

Did we propose it or did the tigers?

Unbelievable we get rid of TB and miss out on Lindsay/Tobie/Berry.

 

[ziad]

Yep, all good. But, we can't take that risk at pick 3. We need to hit on a guaranteed gun mid. Not someone with risk, even if they might potentially end up fractionally better in the long run.

Draft top shelf and trade in their good support

 

[ghostbat12]

Pushing out the door a rare as hens teeth top key defender on the tail end of his prime and using the pick we get for him for a run of the mill, B grader is quintessential post 2018 flag West Coast.

I ain't even melting, that just sounds like something this era of West Coast WOULD do. I've accepted it.

1. He wants to go. He went and found a club with most money to go to. We didn’t shop around.

2. If anything, we got criticised for not pushing players out enough. I am not sure what you are referring to.

3. How many a graders out of 800 do you think are out there?

4. At this stage I wouldn’t mind a few b grade midfielder/ Harley + 4 b grade midfielders would do wonders for our competitiveness. It’s what hawks have essentially. They have 2x a grade mids but we have a rolls Royce.

 

[Cuzz09]

The proposed deal is 13 for 21 and Baker.

That's fine, just do it

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[Bacchus]

Don’t want Baker.

Messing up a critical drafting year.

 

[Cuzz09]

Don’t want Baker.

Messing up a critical drafting year.

But you can't just have all kids. Baker would be a great help guiding these kids through. Tough too. Doubt he'd allow Harley to get bullied as much.

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[pantskyle]

I am once again imploring the club to get as many picks as possible in this draft in the top 30 and take kids.

 

[Barrybran]

The proposed deal is 13 for 21 and Baker.

That would mean we only have one target inside the top 12 unless we were planning to bring forward a pick

 

[Bacchus]

Did we propose it or did the tigers?

Unbelievable we get rid of TB and miss out on Lindsay/Tobie/Berry.

A mid first round pick for Liam Baker.

What poor trading.

Giving Richmond a real leg up. Be like us getting #5 for Liam Ryan.

 

[Obeanie1]

Yep, all good. But, we can't take that risk at pick 3. We need to hit on a guaranteed gun mid. Not someone with risk, even if they might potentially end up fractionally better in the long run.

How has that approach gone for North?

As opposed to Hawthorn.

And all draft picks have risk.


Edit: Wouldn't mind knowing exactly what Random disagrees with here?

 

[Hook461123]

Every team needs an elite rebounding half back. They are just as important as elite mids.

We don't have any.

And he looks like a Will Day type who can transition to midfield. Has done so to limited degrees already.

Because TT is flexible and can play defense and wing / on ball where other u18's are mids and just mids shouldn't rule him out as a potentially great mid.

Agreed we need that type of player. just think with our current list we need a gun mid while we have a top 3 pick. Once we start moving up the ladder a bit a HBF /Wing at 6 or 7 seems about right. At the moment we have noone who gets a lot of possessions. Plus we need someone to help Harley in the middle. Yeo is getting old and is 1 injury away. Ginbey looks more suited to half back and Kelly is probably suited more outside/hff. Our midfield is so shallow that adding a HBF at 3 seems a bit off.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

A mid first round pick for Liam Baker and a start of second round pick

What poor trading.

Giving Richmond a real leg up. Be like us getting #5 for Liam Ryan.

People are really good at overlooking details in order to have a melt.

 

[Monsterdarlz]

Could be possible that twomeys info could be coming from Richmond’s end. The recruiting team would be sussing out trade targets and there draft board but I doubt any decisions will be made until the head coach is sorted.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Points are only a rough guide at best, but this suggests we’d be doing alright out of that proposed trade.

 

[bzparkes]

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Points are only a rough guide at best, but this suggests we’d be doing alright out of that proposed trade.

So, we should be offering pick 46 for Baker?

Happy with that, I guess.

 

[Barrybran]

Giving up 13 for Baker doesn't make sense in isolation. Assuming the Barrass trade is 13 + 30 and Baker is 13 for Baker + 21, combined with a suggestion from stallon to get Warner, 18 + F1 from the Swans for 3 + F1, that could leave us with:

Warner
Baker
18, 21, 23, 30, 59
Swans F1, WCE F2, F3, F4

 

[eaglevision]

Did we propose it or did the tigers?

Unbelievable we get rid of TB and miss out on Lindsay/Tobie/Berry.

I’ve made my thoughts clear on Clarke brokering any deal with the Tigers and it doesn’t take a genius to figure out how this came about.

If we miss any of those three players you mentioned because we traded pick 13 for Liam Baker and 21 then Clarke can pack his shit up and head back to Richmond with pick 13 as far as I’m concerned.

I’m an atheist but if Liam Baker saves us from ourselves and goes to Freo I may just start believing in a higher power.