List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

[Keys]

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[bzparkes]

So no player should ever be offered a 2 year deal?
Could you please look up how many on our list are or have been on 2 year deals and then get back to me.
I’d say you’d be shaped obovate.

Yes, let's offer every player on the list 2 years and watch all the good ones get poached by other teams.

You'll only ever be left with the shit ones.

Use your brain please.

 

[eaglevision]

Drafted with the pick we got for Gehrig.

Quality out (Gehrig), quality in (Kerr).

Hopefully it's the same with Barrass.

Did a full circle when Kerr tackled G-train to the ground with an attempted fend off and got holding the ball.

 

[KERRPOW]

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ultimate-rankings-afls-40-best-rising-stars-under-24-years-of-age-ranked/news-story/d11db85aaf1f7f17af25c6617c07610a

Looking at the HUN annual ranking of top 40 under 24.

Here is the list
View attachment 2122208
Points of reflection

1. 75% taken in first round (I used up to pick 20 as the cut off)
2. 45% taken top 10
3. 33% taken top 3
4. 18% taken as a rookie/MSD
5. 15% compromised (F/S, NGA or Northern Academy)
6. Norf and GWS were gutless not selecting the obvious number 1 at 1 (Daicos and Ashcroft) but well done Crows with Jamarra)
7. No R3 or R4 picks

Note to club - we need to nail the R1 picks and especially the pointy end ones.

Looking for chesser in that list.

Edit: sarcasm.

 

[beagles]

It just is.

Richmond has pick 1 in PSD. He isnt going to walk away for nothing...

So, let Richmond keep him!

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

LOL

“Come up with an example”

Comes up with example

“No, not that one”

As I said, it’s from 16 years ago when the rules were different.

Since uncontracted players were allowed to put themselves in the ND, I don’t think there’s been a single example of one not ending up where he wanted to go.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Did a full circle when Kerr tackled G-train to the ground with an attempted fend off and got holding the ball.

 

[WA footy mad]

Lets hope we say no to all Richmond players. There was a reason why Richmond ended with the wooden spoon these players where non performers.
Richmond are hoping they can offload as many players as posibble whilst they have a bit of currency.
Take all our picks to the draft and we could possibly end up with 2 guns out of the picks we will have.

 

[Woobla Stainz]

Yes. They'll leave if someone comes with a big, fat contract offer.

Are you being obtuse?

 

[Chris_6678]

The West Sport

@TheWestSport
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1m

EXCLUSIVE: Jake Waterman

2

Jake Waterman

Age

26

Ht

192cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.2

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.8

2star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.0

1star

M

5.8

5star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.5

5star

D

12.2

3star

K

7.6

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.8

4star

has cashed in on a breakout season, earning close to $1m a season over the next five years after re-structuring his deal at West Coast.

 

[WA footy mad]

West Coast lock in Jake Waterman

2

Jake Waterman

Age

26

Ht

192cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.2

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.8

2star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.0

1star

M

5.8

5star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.5

5star

D

12.2

3star

K

7.6

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.8

4star

on new five-year deal after breakout All-Australian season Surely this is a joke if its not WCE havent learnt anything over the past few years on long term deals​

 

[kerrazy]

Just under a million a year for Waterman with the current salary cap is a great deal. Awesome news.

 

[pantskyle]

Heavily reliant on form as well.

 

[Jez1974]

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/ultimate-rankings-afls-40-best-rising-stars-under-24-years-of-age-ranked/news-story/d11db85aaf1f7f17af25c6617c07610a

Looking at the HUN annual ranking of top 40 under 24.

Here is the list
View attachment 2122208
Points of reflection

1. 75% taken in first round (I used up to pick 20 as the cut off)
2. 45% taken top 10
3. 33% taken top 3
4. 18% taken as a rookie/MSD
5. 15% compromised (F/S, NGA or Northern Academy)
6. Norf and GWS were gutless not selecting the obvious number 1 at 1 (Daicos and Ashcroft) but well done Crows with Jamarra)
7. No R3 or R4 picks

Note to club - we need to nail the R1 picks and especially the pointy end ones.

Don't waste top picks or invest so much time when there is obviously nothing there!!

 

[Byron_Clanger]

Paywall busted Jake Waterman

2

Jake Waterman

Age

26

Ht

192cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.2

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.8

2star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.0

1star

M

5.8

5star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.5

5star

D

12.2

3star

K

7.6

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.8

4star

article. 'Close to a million' a year for one decent season is crazy. This first part of the contract is guaranteed money and the 'second part' is incentive heavy...whatever the hell that means by the length of his contract being in parts.

https://archive.md/G5bln

 

[Goroyals22]

Paywall busted Jake Waterman

2

Jake Waterman

Age

26

Ht

192cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

7.9

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

5.2

5star

T

1.2

3star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.8

2star

K

7.8

3star

HB

2.0

1star

M

5.8

5star

T

0.3

1star

G

1.5

5star

D

12.2

3star

K

7.6

3star

HB

4.6

4star

M

4.6

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.8

4star

article. 'Close to a million' a year for one decent season is crazy. This first part of the contract is guaranteed money and the 'second part' is incentive heavy...whatever the hell that means by the length of his contract being in parts.

https://archive.md/G5bln

$700 thousand with incentives should be more than enough to pay for waterman off the back of one seasons form… garbage list management


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[Miguel Sanchez]

$700 thousand with incentives should be more than enough to pay for waterman off the back of one seasons form… garbage list management


Sent from my iPhone using BigFooty.com

Closest you've come to acknowledging his season?

 

[Keys]

Paywall busted Jake Waterman article. 'Close to a million' a year for one decent season is crazy. This first part of the contract is guaranteed money and the 'second part' is incentive heavy...whatever the hell that means by the length of his contract being in parts.

https://archive.md/G5bln

$700 thousand with incentives should be more than enough to pay for waterman off the back of one seasons form… garbage list management


Sent from my iPhone using BigFooty.com

There was also this bit

The 26-year-old had significant interest from interstate clubs including Melbourne who offered a five-year deal on similar money and were understood to be willing to go higher to pry him out of the Eagles

It’s not like he’s being overpaid compared to what others were prepared to offer

 

[Mop]

Snakey is 100% worth $700,000 a season. Yes, he took it up many notches, but he also had a clean run of games to do it.

Keep in mind we keep talking about the “salary floor”. Which is it? Throw money at players to keep them or let them go? They can’t both be meltworthy decisions

 

[Mop]

This thread (2024, colourised)

 

[eaglevision]

Perhaps we could pinch 42 and/or a swap of our F3 for their F2 off the Crows by letting them take Draper at 3 and still picking who we want at 4. In saying that I think Lalor would suit their midfield the best.

 

[CountryLad]

Snakey is 100% worth $700,000 a season. Yes, he took it up many notches, but he also had a clean run of games to do it.

Keep in mind we keep talking about the “salary floor”. Which is it? Throw money at players to keep them or let them go? They can’t both be meltworthy decisions

Agree

Average wage will be over 500k by 2027. An extra 200k a year plus some incentives isn’t over the top for a bloke coming off an AA year. Good luck to him.

 

[PremiershipNo4]

Yes, let's offer every player on the list 2 years and watch all the good ones get poached by other teams.

You'll only ever be left with the shit ones.

Use your brain please.

So how many of our players are on 2 or less years?

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

As someone else asked … is there a single example you can point to of an uncontracted player not getting to the club he nominates?

Not since Nick Stevens and Jade Rawlings in the mid-2000s, before players could go into the ND.

Come up with an example. I’ll wait.

Not sure I can remember a time when pick 1 in the PSD has had a player they wanted to keep asking for a trade either ? Unless I missed one

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

If Pyke wants to be ruthless as he said, why not pick up Owies as pick 3 in the PSD?

 

[Keys]

Looking for chesser in that list.

And the point of this post is what exactly?

Six of the 13 players taken before Chesser are also missing from that list and the only player taken after him on there is Dempsey who Geelong took in the rookie draft