List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[stallon]

From the eye test Garcia has it over Dev, Garcia is a contested beast similar to a Baker which is type of players eagles lack currently. Dev is ok but is pretty poorly skilled and seems a bit slow to me.

As I said, Garcia has had opportunity, Devs AFL exposure has been out of position entirely due to the depth and strength of the Brisbane midfield.
Its hard to look good as an inside mid when youre stuck at half forward.
Dev has been tearing it up in the VFL, 5th in the VFL BnF from 13 out of 18 games.

I think its telling that Garcia only had 2 year deals on the table, he cant be that good

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Where did I say they were washed up?
Role player isnt an insult. Not being A-grade anymore is not an insult.
I called Danger A-grade

Can you read??
??????????

Start new thread lads. Getting old.

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[stallon]

Every dogs game I’ve watched, Garcia has been stuck in the grave yard Half forward role so not sure if it’s entirely different.

I’ll also argue the dogs had much more depth than the Lions (key word ‘had’).

Fair.
ill say that Garcia is quick and flashy, things he does are very noticeable, he also played this year

Dogs have far less depth than the Lions, its clear the Lions have realised Dev is not great on a flank so they never bothered bringing him in to cover there early in the year(and Devw as injured).
Garcias speed I guess lends himself to a small forward sort of role, Dogs also have a lot of those sort of battlers in their side

 

[Keys]

Unfortunately Elijah’s issue is almost exclusively load related now. All well and good to say he’s ready to start preseason but it’s going to be daily monitoring of symptoms and regular scans. Expectations really need to be tempered with Elijah but that’s not to say he won’t fly through preseason.

Pyke acknowledged that they tried to bring him up for a late season return a bit prematurely in hindsight so it is something that’ll need to be managed this preseason and beyond

End result is he probably becomes more of a HHF with only bursts through the midfield- a bit like how Rayner is used for Brisbane

 

[DanWCE]

Garcia is Warner from Wish. Would hope we're into him.

 

[Dylan82]

Trade Radio- regarding Riley Garcia. Eagles interest dropped off a bit. Has a 2 year offer from the Dogs and likely landing spot but Port has interest but they are waiting on Joe Richards decision first. Josh then said if one of the WA clubs offered him a contract he would expect Garcia would take it.

Geez must have some decent plans if what would be a best 22 player imo for us and we ain’t even offering a contract. Edmund did say last week we had a 2 year contract in front of him

He played a decent game against the Dees this year so hopefully Mini saw enough

Would be surprised if the club has cooled its interest.

Presumably, the previous reputed offer remains and not much has changed since.


Could just be the club is currently focussing elsewhere - head coach, delistings, assistants, RFAs, plus it needs to find a 3rd round pick from somewhere if R.Garcia does signal an intention to move.


The Bulldogs' two year offer has been sitting there for at least two months now - he's clearly canvassing the market and will only re-commit to them if nothing better presents during the trade period. They must be expecting him to leave, otherwise their contract offer would be much longer.

Shapes as someone who will be traded in the second week of the exchange period.

 

[Elite Pete]

Baker, graham and DevRob probably coming. Garcia is surplus to needs

Couldn’t disagree more.

Need mids and ready made imo. Just gotta cut the list to create spots

 

[darksquare]

My preferences for the Baker trade, in order:
1. 3 for 6 and Baker
2. 23 for Baker
3. 13 for 21 and Baker
4. 13 for Baker
I think sliding from 3 to 6 won't cost us a good midfielder, even if we have to pick Murphy Reid against his preferences, but sliding back from 13 will cost us a good player in a position of need.

 

[garlic munchers]

Magpies went all-in after him once J.Noble made it clear he wants to move to Gold Coast.

H.Perryman despite being a NSW product, grew up a Collingwood supporter and that seems to have clinched the deal.


Collingwood gain a player upgrade in addition to a likely second round pick (for J.Noble).


Puts a spanner in Port's plans for the trade period. With I.Cumming choosing Adelaide they don't have a ready replacement for the trade of D.Houston to facilitate picks for J.Lukosius.



With H.Perryman and I.Cumming both out the door through RFA and J.Peatling subject to a bidding war by half of the competition, GWS are shaping to have six picks between 20 and 50, in addition to their current pick 14.

Expect to see them looking to combine picks and trade up.

Everyone knows Port are treading water, before heading down the ladder.

Very good mids, pop gun attack and a backline minus Houston, (Z)erk!

Sth Australian teams no premiership since 2007, WC miles off, Freo maybe ...... time for the AFL to start looking at the non Vic southern states rather than being all in on draft assistance to NSW and QLD.

 

[stallon]

Couldn’t disagree more.

Need mids and ready made imo. Just gotta cut the list to create spots

How many mids do you think we need?
We'd need to promise game time. Graham and Baker will both be in our best 22, assuming we get Dev thats 3 players who can run through the midfield, are we drafting a mid with our first pick?
We may have to give the odd game to Hall, may have to give mid time to Hewett, we have Yeo, Kelly, Reid still in there.

If Reid/Yeo/Kelly do 65% CBAs each(195% of 300%, they did 220% this year), thats 105% to fill, thats 2-3 players. Hewett/Graham/Baker/Dev easily smash that in.
We'd have to promise at least some game time to get guys across, as much as it'd bne nice to bring Garcia or Dev over to bolster the WAFL.
Draft a mid with our first pick and theres no space left.

If it was a case we werent after Dev then yes im all for Garcia, but I really think Dev is a better fit

 

[eaglevision]

Pyke acknowledged that they tried to bring him up for a late season return a bit prematurely in hindsight so it is something that’ll need to be managed this preseason and beyond

End result is he probably becomes more of a HHF with only bursts through the midfield- a bit like how Rayner is used for Brisbane

100% this is how he will be used. Later in his career he may be able to do the kms and develop the tank to play more midfield but for now Cam Rayner is an excellent comparison.

 

[swingdog]

How many mids do you think we need?
We'd need to promise game time. Graham and Baker will both be in our best 22, assuming we get Dev thats 3 players who can run through the midfield, are we drafting a mid with our first pick?
We may have to give the odd game to Hall, may have to give mid time to Hewett, we have Yeo, Kelly, Reid still in there.

If Reid/Yeo/Kelly do 65% CBAs each(195% of 300%, they did 220% this year), thats 105% to fill, thats 2-3 players. Hewett/Graham/Baker/Dev easily smash that in.
We'd have to promise at least some game time to get guys across, as much as it'd bne nice to bring Garcia or Dev over to bolster the WAFL.
Draft a mid with our first pick and theres no space left.

If it was a case we werent after Dev then yes im all for Garcia, but I really think Dev is a better fit

 

[Elite Pete]

How many mids do you think we need?
We'd need to promise game time. Graham and Baker will both be in our best 22, assuming we get Dev thats 3 players who can run through the midfield, are we drafting a mid with our first pick?
We may have to give the odd game to Hall, may have to give mid time to Hewett, we have Yeo, Kelly, Reid still in there.

If Reid/Yeo/Kelly do 65% CBAs each(195% of 300%, they did 220% this year), thats 105% to fill, thats 2-3 players. Hewett/Graham/Baker/Dev easily smash that in.
We'd have to promise at least some game time to get guys across, as much as it'd bne nice to bring Garcia or Dev over to bolster the WAFL.
Draft a mid with our first pick and theres no space left.

If it was a case we werent after Dev then yes im all for Garcia, but I really think Dev is a better fit

Not doing a midfield convo with you. The thread is full of them.

 

[Jupes]

i wonder what mcqualter's relationship with oliver is like? take on his full contract and pick 5 jack bowes

12

Jack Bowes

Age

26

Ht

189cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

D/M

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.3

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

6.6

4star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.5

4star

MG

318.1

4star

D

18.0

4star

K

11.8

5star

HB

6.3

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.1

2star

MG

318.1

4star

D

11.6

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

5.2

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.4

4star

style

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

All reads well but 100% do not want Gerreyn. Nothing to do with his football ability and I’m confident West Coast will be across it.

I just don't know what need he would fill for us anyway, don't need key fwds and certainly don't need undersized rucks.
I know he's been touted as potential for KPD, but without seeing him play there I wouldn't waste a pick.

 

[Deepthroat]

Ted Clohesy at Geelong is uncontracted and been developing nicely in the VFL.

With Bailey Smith

6

Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

and possibly Clayton Oliver

13

Clayton Oliver

Age

27

Ht

189cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

27.8

5star

K

9.5

4star

HB

18.4

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

6.3

5star

CL

6.3

5star

D

25.1

5star

K

11.1

4star

HB

14.0

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

5.6

5star

CL

5.9

5star

D

19.2

5star

K

4.6

2star

HB

14.6

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

3.8

5star

going there, are we a chance to prize him away at a good price?

 

[BartBart]

For those able to put up with some possibly ill-informed discussion on WCE Trade possibilities, they are about to discuss our squad on Trade Radio.

 

[eaglevision]

I just don't know what need he would fill for us anyway, don't need key fwds and certainly don't need undersized rucks.
I know he's been touted as potential for KPD, but without seeing him play there I wouldn't waste a pick.

Very much agreed. O’Farrell, Mraz* and Barrat would all be preferred options in that range. Barrat reminds me a bit of Adam Hunter who went pick 29 which is likely to be where 23 ends up. Clancy Dennis would be another with a later pick.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

It's a shame the Swans had to shit the bed in the Granny. I think our best chance to get Warner was this offseason with Sydney winning and Freo having all their picks invested in getting Bolton.

 

[salo]

Where did I say they were washed up?
Role player isnt an insult. Not being A-grade anymore is not an insult.
I called Danger A-grade

Can you read??
??????????

Yes, they played the role of being elite midfielders in premiership teams.

Anyhoo...

 

[stallon]

Hannebury saying its a shame we are losing Rotham as hes shown some signs LOL

 

[Deepthroat]

It's a shame the Swans had to shit the bed in the Granny. I think our best chance to get Warner was this offseason with Sydney winning and Freo having all their invested in getting Bolton.

The Swans are in the window.

Freo are arguably within another season of being in the window.

Why would the Swans gratefully hand them a weapon that could potentially come back to bite them.

It makes much more send to deal Warner to us.

 

[Barrybran]

i wonder what mcqualter's relationship with oliver is like? take on his full contract and pick 5 jack bowes style

Jack Graham is about to become the highest paid WAFL player in history

 

[RanaNaved]

For those able to put up with some possibly ill-informed discussion on WCE Trade possibilities, they are about to discuss our squad on Trade Radio.

Haha they probably know only a handful of player's.

Yesterday on another Melbourne station they were talking about how McQualter has to get more than the 3 wins we got this year

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Geelong 2022 and Pies 2023 are 2 great examples of sides without A+ midfields winning by having a good spread of talent all over the ground. They are the sides we should look to emulate imo

Both coincidentally beat sides who people regard as having those A+ midfields in those grand finals, Swans and Lions

Pies were deeep through the midfield with serious top end talent as well