List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[WCErevival]

Kelly will re-sign at a reduced rate.

 

[pantskyle]

Sydney may want him to move on if his intentions are to go end of next. I think there is a real chance this happens this trade period. How invested is he in Sydney?

They seem happy enough to stay another year, Sydney have him on wages that are benefiting them, I don't see them forcing the issue. It's possible this year but very slim.

 

[pantskyle]

Seeing how St Kilda and Richmond have dealt with departing players at their B&F it reinforces just how well we handled our own B&F with Darling and Barrass - including how well TB spoke

Worlds apart from the Saints especially but also Richmond- those speeches by Bolton and Baker were awkward to say the least

This also goes along with the fact that Barrass is no guarantee to be traded, he hasn't been forced out and will stay if the Eagles do not get what they deem to be fair value.

 

[pantskyle]

He is a tim Kelly for mine, very over hyped, cream on top player.

I think he is better than Kelly but agree in the sense that we're better to get him once we bring in some more kids, that's why I am yet again stressing to the club to hit this draft hard and worry about Warner next year.

 

[pantskyle]

Swans would be smart to nip this in the bud and trade now in contract.

They need to be bold and rectify their midfield deficencies. They dont want 12 minths od distraction. And what sort of year will Warner have next season coming out of contract and being aware that the next contract will be long and on big money when he is playing for well unders. He wont be playing flat out as he wont want to get injured.

And I wouldnt be upset if kelly was involved to reduce the picks we give uo.

They'd be smart to keep him for another year and have another shot at a flag with an A grade talent who is being paid well unders.
His value isn't going to diminish, Swans will still get a very good deal and Warner will still be paid handsomely.

 

[eaglevision]

Probably bullshit but happy to indulge. Pick 10 for Kelly and full $1m salary? Travaglia back on the menu if the Saints don’t get band 1 and judging by their BnF tantrum, maybe they won’t.

3-FOS
10-Travaglia
13-Lindsay
23-O’Farrell
59-Champion
64-Dennis
Rookie-Artemis

F2, Culley and 22 (Band 3 Graham) for Baker
Swap F4s for Dev
64 and F3 (NM) for Darling and F4
Petruccelle for Garcia

2025 based on 2024 ladder
3 and F1 for 17 and Warner Bros
13-Rodriguez
17-Curtin
38-Banfield FS
39-Walley NGA
Cat B-Evans NGA

 

[ronpingwins]

Probably bullshit but happy to indulge. Pick 10 for Kelly and full $1m salary? Travaglia back on the menu if the Saints don’t get band 1 and judging by their BnF tantrum, maybe they won’t.

Suspect we’d get a second rounder at best unfortunately. If let Freo take a large chunk of the salary it would put us in the box seat for Chad next year.

 

[eaglevision]

Suspect we’d get a second rounder at best unfortunately. If let Freo take a large chunk of the salary it would put us in the box seat for Chad next year.

Probably right but if they are paying Bolton’s $1.2m/year and Brayshaw’s contract being negotiated, an extra $1m cap space may help them immensely.

Could also go Kelly and 23 for 10 and Knobel.

 

[Smotie2]

Kelly will re-sign at a reduced rate.

Yeah can he hand back one of the first round draft picks he cost us?

 

[Schtinker]

Kelly played with injury most of the season , fit and healthy in 2025 and a new coach anything could happen, leave him in the forward half more .
Keep Kelly .

Lachie Neale played with injury most of the season....see the difference.

 

[Peptide Pig]

Bolton goes to Freo this year they will stuggle big time to match our bid pick wise.

Having both ask to be traded at the same time would benefit us IMO.

Not to mention salary cap. Freo should already be close to maxed out and Bolton won’t come cheap.

 

[Barrybran]

Probably bullshit but happy to indulge. Pick 10 for Kelly and full $1m salary? Travaglia back on the menu if the Saints don’t get band 1 and judging by their BnF tantrum, maybe they won’t.

3-FOS
10-Travaglia
13-Lindsay
23-O’Farrell
59-Champion
64-Dennis
Rookie-Artemis

F2, Culley and 22 (Band 3 Graham) for Baker
Swap F4s for Dev
64 and F3 (NM) for Darling and F4
Petruccelle for Garcia

2025 based on 2024 ladder
3 and F1 for 17 and Warner Bros
13-Rodriguez
17-Curtin
38-Banfield FS
39-Walley NGA
Cat B-Evans NGA

Doesn't make sense for either side really. Freo are after Bolton and Pickett. We still need capable midfielders and even if we can fill that part of the field, Kelly will still be a very handy forward.

 

[rko121]

Probably bullshit but happy to indulge. Pick 10 for Kelly and full $1m salary? Travaglia back on the menu if the Saints don’t get band 1 and judging by their BnF tantrum, maybe they won’t.

3-FOS
10-Travaglia
13-Lindsay
23-O’Farrell
59-Champion
64-Dennis
Rookie-Artemis

F2, Culley and 22 (Band 3 Graham) for Baker
Swap F4s for Dev
64 and F3 (NM) for Darling and F4
Petruccelle for Garcia

2025 based on 2024 ladder
3 and F1 for 17 and Warner Bros
13-Rodriguez
17-Curtin
38-Banfield FS
39-Walley NGA
Cat B-Evans NGA

There was a mention on trade radio this morning that we may be looking to get rid of Kelly to go after Bolton. Richmond would want our pick 3 and I would be furious if the club is even considering that!

 

[TOA.]

Chris Davies from Port said this on Dan Houston

5

Dan Houston

Age

27

Ht

186cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

11.8

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.0

5star

MG

289.2

4star

D

17.6

4star

K

11.6

4star

HB

6.0

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.4

4star

MG

319.9

5star

D

16.6

4star

K

12.4

5star

HB

4.2

4star

M

7.0

5star

T

2.6

4star

MG

279.8

5star

this morning on trade radio: "he wont be leaving for anything less than he's worth" .

Port are what we should be aspiring to be in this space - hard and uncompromising.

We said this in the press release regarding Barass: "We will endeavour to meet Tom's request while protecting the best interests of the West Coast Eagles." That was weak and I've not heard anything much since. Why arnt we saying the same things as Port on Houston?

Port would also be threatening to take Baker in the PSD and calling the Tigers bluff on picking him up again. We should at least be threatening this, like Port did when they bent us over the barrel for Rioli. (We also could have re-drafted Rioli then too but were never going to take a player who wants to leave, like the Tigers would never do with Baker).

I wish we would just harden the **** up.

 

[FKASC]

Can see Freo getting both Warner and Bolton. I wonder if there’s any chance they push fatty Darcy out the door given Reidy’s form?

Reckon Bolton would potentially come over on slightly reduced coin just to escape Richmond and play some finals

 

[Peptide Pig]

Shirley TK wouldn't move back east, if not Freo, where to? He came back here for family and support reasons re kids. Interesting scenario, a year left, no deal on table. Hadn't thought of him being dropped. Guess we wait and see how he fits in with new coach and direction. Might get reinvented?

His kids were also very young then, all 3 were under 4 I believe, and 2 with special needs. All would be in school now and his career is almost done so perhaps might be more open to a short-term move to extend and for $$.

If we're in the market for Warner we're going to need to cash some chips in whichever way we can.
Kelly probably won't net a great deal given he's 31 next year but it all helps

Would be more than happy to move TK on this year for a 2R or maybe a bit more with salary paid. Him and Flyin’ are the next best candidates after TB that might hold some currency in a trade and not leave us with a leadership void. Both are past their best and give questionable effort at times but could be valuable to a contender.

I like the idea of trading with Freo because any additional deals they do will reduce their draft hand and ability to beat us for Warner.

Kozzie is still being mentioned too, I wonder what McQualter’s vibe is with him from his time at the Dees?

 

[Obeanie1]

Lachie Neale played with injury most of the season....see the difference.

Yep. Neale was surrounded by premiership teammates.

 

[eaglevision]

Chris Davies from Port said this on Dan Houston this morning on trade radio: "he wont be leaving for anything less than he's worth" .

Port are what we should be aspiring to be in this space - hard and uncompromising.

We said this in the press release regarding Barass: "We will endeavour to meet Tom's request while protecting the best interests of the West Coast Eagles." That was weak and I've not heard anything much since. Why arnt we saying the same things as Port on Houston?

Port would also be threatening to take Baker in the PSD and calling the Tigers bluff on picking him up again. We should at least be threatening this, like Port did when they bent us over the barrel for Rioli.

I wish we would just harden the **** up.

Provided this is the message we’re giving to other clubs privately I have no issue not saying it publicly. I thought The Don handled it really well yesterday. Sounded firm but not like it was a public plea for the media to act as messengers.

 

[TOA.]

Provided this is the message we’re giving to other clubs privately I have no issue not saying it publicly. I thought The Don handled it really well yesterday. Sounded firm but not like it was a public plea for the media to act as messengers.

Maybe we are being hard behind the scenes. I hope so. I just have no faith at all in this club off the field, especially in the trade space. Maybe Pyke and Clarke deserve a chance but they havent really got me overly excited by their performance thus far in the rumours regarding Barass and Baker. They are just rumours so feel free to prove me wrong guys.

 

[pantskyle]

Can see Freo getting both Warner and Bolton. I wonder if there’s any chance they push fatty Darcy out the door given Reidy’s form?

Reckon Bolton would potentially come over on slightly reduced coin just to escape Richmond and play some finals

No one is taking Darcy's contract on.

Eagles lead the race for Warner, keep in mind Simmos comments about players who want to come and play with Reid.

 

[Barrybran]

There was a mention on trade radio this morning that we may be looking to get rid of Kelly to go after Bolton. Richmond would want our pick 3 and I would be furious if the club is even considering that!

Pick 3 should be reserved for Warner or an actual midfielder

 

[Obeanie1]

Probably bullshit but happy to indulge. Pick 10 for Kelly and full $1m salary? Travaglia back on the menu if the Saints don’t get band 1 and judging by their BnF tantrum, maybe they won’t.

3-FOS
10-Travaglia
13-Lindsay
23-O’Farrell
59-Champion
64-Dennis
Rookie-Artemis

F2, Culley and 22 (Band 3 Graham) for Baker
Swap F4s for Dev
64 and F3 (NM) for Darling and F4
Petruccelle for Garcia

2025 based on 2024 ladder
3 and F1 for 17 and Warner Bros
13-Rodriguez
17-Curtin
38-Banfield FS
39-Walley NGA
Cat B-Evans NGA

Would be happy for Kelly to finish at Freo.

Win win trade. Freo get a gun for now. We get kids for the future.

We need to bury the hatchet with Freo while we are at opposite ends of the premiership clock.

 

[eaglevision]

Lachie Neale played with injury most of the season....see the difference.

And I bet he took the advice of the medical staff.

Don’t know for sure but sounds like Neale has severe plantar fasciiitis.

 

[Barrybran]

Chris Davies from Port said this on Dan Houston this morning on trade radio: "he wont be leaving for anything less than he's worth" .

Port are what we should be aspiring to be in this space - hard and uncompromising.

We said this in the press release regarding Barass: "We will endeavour to meet Tom's request while protecting the best interests of the West Coast Eagles." That was weak and I've not heard anything much since. Why arnt we saying the same things as Port on Houston?

Port would also be threatening to take Baker in the PSD and calling the Tigers bluff on picking him up again. We should at least be threatening this, like Port did when they bent us over the barrel for Rioli. (We also could have re-drafted Rioli then too but were never going to take a player who wants to leave, like the Tigers would never do with Baker).

I wish we would just harden the **** up.

The primary difference between Port and us is Houston is a vital piece for a club in a premiership window and Barrass won't be playing in our next premiership so his greatest value to us now is in draft picks.

 

[Jukes]

I think trading Kelly is the right move given where we sit but my word it is annoying knowing Freo will actually use him to his strengths.