List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Cuzz09]

oh well. Good I guess.

Hopefully Kelly can get more dangerous forward of centre with Baker, Graham etc in middle

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[BartBart]

My Dad's had it in for Kelly from the moment he arrived at the club (Gave up too much for a guy who doesn't contribute to winning/ Gobbling up our salary cap)

So it's Christmas morning for him today.

Surely Xmas morning would be if it actually happens

 

[oak79]

Going to be a lot of angry Eagles fans if Kelly moves to Freo

But.. if we effectively end up with Warner for Kelly, then that's a massive win for WC

 

[ghostbat12]

Going to be a lot of angry Eagles fans if Kelly moves to Freo

Will there?

 

[salo]

And I bet he took the advice of the medical staff.

You mentioned this yesterday. What's the story here?
Was it a Scott Selwood sort of conceal-the-extent-of-the-injury or did Kelly not do the hard yards with proper rehab?

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Going to be a lot of angry Eagles fans if Kelly moves to Freo

But.. if we effectively end up with Warner for Kelly, then that's a massive win for WC

There will be lots of angry Eagles fans if the dockers end up with Bolton and Warner.

 

[mat11]

Do we still think we try for a player for Barrass?
I know it was mentioned before, and a guy like Serong who wont get a game at the Hawks would fill a need.

I'd start like this...

1) barass for 13 + f1
2) barass + f3 for 13 + f1
3) barass/salary + f3 for 13 + f1
4) barass + f2 for 13 + f1
5) barass/salary + f2 for 13 + f1
6) get f***** Hawks


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[Hook461123]

This is where I think it ends up.

If I was Hawks I’d spew at that suggestion and I’d be extremely happy with it as an Eagles supporter. Probably tells you that it’s lopsided.

MeGA trade

Eagles
Out Barrass, Kelly(+salary), F3
In Baker, 10,29,30

Richmond
Out Baker, Bolton, 29
In 9,13,16

Freo
Out 9,10,16
In Bolton, Kelly, HF2

Hawks
Out 13,30, F2
Barrass, WCF3

Eagles get Baker plus picks. Richmond get 3 1sts. Freo get Bolton and Kelly + pick for Warner next year. Hawks get Barrass and keep their F1.

 

[The Gtrain]

How about a few players for Kelly from Freo, O'Driscoll and Knobel?
Not sure on Kelly's value tbh, older but still quality, for a couple of young fellas that both have decent up side.
Unlikely Freo gives up their youth though

 

[Barrybran]

There will be lots of angry Eagles fans if the dockers end up with Bolton and Warner.

I won't care personally. Chris Judd became Josh Kennedy and Chris Masten. If we don't get Warner we just throw some very good darts and trust the process.

 

[Sammy J]

Honestly, we've brought in a lot of kids these past couple of years. If we dealt Pick 3 and the Barass pick for Warner, and pick 23 for Baker, get Graham as a FA, I could honestly live with it. Would be nice if we got some sweet compo picks to assist with adding some more draftees or being ontraded.

Warner is only 23yrs old, so entering his prime, and has a decade of footy left in him. He;s already one of the better mids in the competition.

Midfield group of Warner, Yeo, Kelly, Reid, Baker, Graham looks pretty solid. Honestly, we just need a decent ruck that can win a few hitouts.

Worst case scenario we're still shit next year and we get another top 3 pick to add to the mix.

 

[Goroyals22]

Our big issue in the backline is we have a lot of decent players with similar skillets. Hough, ginbey, Duggan, even Cole, are all decent afl players, they are all tough and good overhead for their size. They are all good one on one defenders. But none of them are particularly good at rebounding as they all have average foot skills/swervability. With this mix of defensive flankers we basically need a Whitfield or a zorko to make up for their lack of rebound. This issue will only compound when our best rebound kicker left (gov) who is a KPD hangs up the boots.


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You haven’t watched Tom Cole try to defend lately have you? Go back and watch him try and follow Kai Lohman around when we played the lions. He certainly can’t read the play, can’t defend one on one and his disposal is horrible…


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[Astro7]

Probably puts the Kelly (non?)-issue to rest..
From Daniels/X post -

"Tim Kelly

11

Tim Kelly

Age

30

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.6

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

10.1

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

4.0

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

19.9

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

7.6

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.7

5star

CL

3.6

4star

D

21.6

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

11.2

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

3.8

5star

is completely committed to the West Coast Eagles. I spoke with him at length just yesterday and can confirm he is very excited about what lies ahead under the guidance of new coach Andrew McQualter

Andrew Mcqualter

Age

38

Ht

179cm

Wt

74kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.9

3star

K

5.6

2star

HB

7.2

4star

M

3.4

3star

T

3.6

5star

G

0.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.6

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

6.0

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.4

4star

G

0.2

3star

. He is currently contracted up until the end of this season (2025), and I see no reason why he wouldn’t remain with the club beyond that if they wish to retain him. We are open to discussing this with the list management team anytime they wish to do so..."

 

[squashface]

Probably puts the Kelly (non?)-issue to rest..
From Daniels/X post -

"Tim Kelly is completely committed to the West Coast Eagles. I spoke with him at length just yesterday and can confirm he is very excited about what lies ahead under the guidance of new coach Andrew McQualter. He is currently contracted up until the end of this season (2025), and I see no reason why he wouldn’t remain with the club beyond that if they wish to retain him. We are open to discussing this with the list management team anytime they wish to do so..."

Too late - an extra 20 pages of trade hypotheticals with Freo is already in motion

 

[stallon]

Kelly may play out similarly to the Barrass situation. He may be allowed to look at his options before we offer a slightly unders deal.

Thatd be good business imo

 

[Barrybran]

If I was Hawks I’d spew at that suggestion and I’d be extremely happy with it as an Eagles supporter. Probably tells you that it’s lopsided.

MeGA trade

Eagles
Out Barrass, Kelly(+salary), F3
In Baker, 10,29,30

Richmond
Out Baker, Bolton, 29
In 9,13,16

Freo
Out 9,10,16
In Bolton, Kelly, HF2

Hawks
Out 13,30, F2
Barrass, WCF3

Eagles get Baker plus picks. Richmond get 3 1sts. Freo get Bolton and Kelly + pick for Warner next year. Hawks get Barrass and keep their F1.

The reality is that our F2 is too much for us and our F3 is not enough for them. Keys' has already suggested Barrass, 23 + F2 for 13, 30 + F1, which upgrades the Hawks' second rounder this year and finds that middle ground.

 

[Astro7]

Too late - an extra 20 pages of trade hypotheticals with Freo is already in motion

I know, I know, does my head in, fortunately the trade season (and definitive outcomes) are nearly upon us.
It will take a giant bulldozer to fill in all these rabbit holes...

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Going to be a lot of angry Eagles fans if Kelly moves to Freo

But.. if we effectively end up with Warner for Kelly, then that's a massive win for WC

Not sure bout that!

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[Obeanie1]

It’s not enough

We need to say we will burn the AFL house down to the ground, steal lollies from children, whilst taking grandmas secret apple pie recipe and put it on the internet

I won’t rest until I see these words from a West Coast Official.

You should send them an email stating all that.

 

[Broken_Chairs]

IMO kelly has held up his end of the bargain. He's not the scapegoat for our demise.

Keen to keep him

 

[kerrazy]

Quote from the dockers board:

Not sure what Kelly would bring that others don’t already possess. We don’t exist to save people’s careers or to give them a shot at a flag before they retire, if we did I’d rather we bring Mundy or Pav out of retirement to give them a shot at it.

 

[stallon]

IMO kelly has held up his end of the bargain. He's not the scapegoat for our demise.

Keen to keep him

Agree hes done his job.

Id let him look around though similar to Darling or Barrass if theres a better deal out there. I wouldnt be fighting to keep him or anything.
Happy if he stayed on slight unders but also happy if he got us an ok pick

 

[noobermensch]

Cody shapes as the number 1 key defender prospect in the pool entering 2025, although he's also played forward to great effect at Colts level this season. He's much stronger overhead than his brother Dan and looks a more intense competitor, similarly solid disposal skills but perhaps little less clean with the ground ball.

 

[bzparkes]

Quote from the dockers board:

Dockers are the opposite of their Port brethren:

"We don't exist to win flags."

 

[oak79]

Will there?

Always. There's always a cohort of fans at every club that get angry anytime someone leaves. Not all are logical.