List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

I would prefer Freddy Rodriguez over Sharp

Agreed, as I prefer his speed and kicking to Sharps ability to break tackles and movement out of traffic. We've already got Harley.

 

[briztoon]

well dees can just say get f**d, given oliver still has, what 5 years to run ?

Just a guess, I reckon Melbourne will want Oliver gone.

Don't know if they're doing a club review, but surely they can see there's a lot wrong with their club.

If I was a draftee, I would doing what NBA draftees have said for years, I don't want to be drafted to ... (insert team name, usually Sacramento).

 

[Elite Pete]

Do we not just go to Sydney or whoever comes second in the race for pick 12 and offer 13 for whatever they were offering, their f1 + whatever, 17+f1/19 from Sydney ill use as the example

If thats the going rate, it sounds like it shouldnt be an issue to find a more suitable pick for Baker

Yeah issue isn’t they haven’t gone into depth about what the extras would be. At this stage they are saying future first for pick 12 swap is a starting point. Atm North sound like a buyer which will be hard to top.

Besides the Pies who are trying to put it in the Noble trade but don’t want to include their future first atm due to a father son next year.

if we get a rumoured future first for TB added into that trade, we should just get Richmond as part of their negotiations with the Suns in the Rioli trade to include the Suns taking the Hawks F1 for pick 12. Then work out the steak knives.

Suns - Hawks F1 + Rioli (for Pick 6 + 12)
Richmond- Pick 12 + pick 6 (for Rioli, Baker and 29)
Eagles- Baker + 29* (for Hawks F1)

Way overs for Rioli and Baker but for some reason it sounds like that’s where the narrative is going.

Issue is we would have to get the TB + F2 for 13 and F2 done before the next part can be done.

There also has been a narrative that if Richmond get 6 or 7 picks before 21 that they might prefer some future first round picks.

 

[WCEswift]

Bailey smith

6

Bailey Smith

Age

23

Ht

185cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.3

5star

K

8.5

3star

HB

9.8

5star

M

2.3

2star

T

3.8

5star

CL

2.7

4star

D

19.8

5star

K

9.6

4star

HB

10.2

5star

M

1.8

2star

T

3.2

4star

CL

3.2

4star

D

14.8

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

7.2

5star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.4

5star

CL

1.6

4star

only wants to go to geelong because he saw how quickly stengle got off passing out after a bag

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

27 well before the start of the season.

Hasn’t baker got back problems! Just asking on behalf of the poos and wees as this makes a massive difference

 

[juddy_Like]

I'm going to leave the Baker outrage for now as I still hold out hope Clarke and co will do some good wheeling and dealing for us.

So I'll turn to my next outrage, the AFL and deciding where our second pick will likely land (excl Barrass & Baker deals).

1-18: Natural draft selections
19: North Compo
20: North Compo
21: Ashcroft bid
22: Lombard bid
23: Kako bid
24: Marshall bid
25: Battle compo
26: Perryman compo
27: Richmond round 2
28: North round 2
29: us poor suckers

Now not to cry woe is me again but this system is totally stuffed when one of the two equalising mechanisms set up for the comp, purely advantages teams that are poor, sorry "development market" teams or by rewarding teams to encourage their best 22 players to leave, like McKay, like Frawley, like Daniher. I mean even if you don't want your players to leave, you still get rewarded like with Battle, Perryman, etc.

How a team like us that doesn't have a player retention or culture issue where players want to stay (I mean just shoot us!) and just go through the development curve like a salary cap/draft system is designed to do and be penalised for it has me beat. Let's also remember we haven't been kissed on the Daicos/Ashcroft/Jamarra weener with a freebie that sets us up for the next decade.

With that rant over, did someone say Priority pick?????

 

[plays tall 1]

Listening to McQualter, it sounds like the instruction will be to draft players who will apply pressure. Presumably running ability, leg speed and contested game will be prioritised.

 

[Bender_]

I think we're about due for some kent to make a BEDWETTING accusation!

 

[WAFClatfd]

Are we allowed to melt yet or are posters still pretending like our club has a spine?

There is a few who think its only FAIR that we trade the picks we get for Tom Barrass to get Mr Baker. (we could yet touch our toes as usual and take pick 30 and a future 4th round for Tom) if the trade and draft team get pick 13 and Hawthorns F1 for Tom, well done them. However the true test is if they can hang on to the picks. But I am absolutely sure certain posters will think that is not a FAIR. We need to be nice in the way deal with other clubs.

 

[flamingEMBERS]

Feel like players with that sort of athletic profile (TT) always jump up the draft boards after the combine

 

[eaglevision]

Feel like players with that sort of athletic profile (TT) always jump up the draft boards after the combine

Agreed. He’ll test well and so will Draper. Ashcroft, Reid Lindsay and Lalor are not testing. Langford interestingly is. Watch for Jagga in the agility and FOS in the yoyo.

 

[boondy]

“We’re not giving away the farm”: Eagles CEO set on holding draft capital amid influx of trade rumours​

 

[briztoon]

Agreed. He’ll test well and so will Draper. Ashcroft, Reid Lindsay and Lalor are not testing. Langford interestingly is. Watch for Jagga in the agility and FOS in the yoyo.

Ashcroft having shoulder surgery.

 

[eaglevision]

Ashcroft having shoulder surgery.

Yep he’s already had it.

 

[WAFClatfd]

I wonder if 13-18 and 23-29 slides/upgrades (both) for Baker would be palatable.

Is slightly better than 13-21 (plus 18 is a first round selection which always helps with future year’s trading), but then 23 is pushed back 6 spots.

Tigers probably want an additional pick rather than 2x small/medium upgrades, but it may be the best of both worlds for the clubs.


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Why would that be in our interests. Baker maybe AFL standard but he is not a going to win games for you. Harley, perhaps Hewitt and this years 3rd and 13th pick might.

 

[Ishmael_]

I'll admit, my man was looking shaky for a hot minute, but having danced his way out of the world's most generous NDA, Phil's bit about being pulled off the Richmond job is yet another masterstroke from the itinerant raccouentur.

Like the seasoned detective pulled off the case after one last job, he has positioned himself just beautifully to both remain in good standing on this board after the fallout, and to lay the foundation for his next chapter of backroom fracas and spirited dissent.

This is peak posting performance, one of the masters at work.

 

[random260]

Pick 13 for Baker + Alex dodson (Ruck)

I mean I can see something like that happening. We do need a ruck and he's the best ruck on the draft similar to Harry Barnett (but it would be okay to roll with it again)

 

[Keys]

Pick 13 for Baker + Tom Dodee (Ruck)

I mean I can see something like that happening. We do need a ruck and he's the best ruck on the draft similar to Harry Barnett (but it would be okay to roll with it again)

Tom Doedee is a defender who plays for Brisbane - well sort of, just had to recover from an ACL

The name you’re searching for is Alex Dodson

 

[beagles]

“We’re not giving away the farm”: Eagles CEO set on holding draft capital amid influx of trade rumours​

Yeah right and yet all roads and comments about pick 13 lead back to Pyke.
No response to WC asking for a priority pick, probably means he didn't want to ask. Ego too big, maybe?

Let's model our club on the bottom team and poach their coaches, players and game plan.
I have no confidence in WC management nor recruiting staff. Zero 0000000000

 

[eaglevision]

Tom Doedee is a defender who plays for Brisbane - well sort of, just had to recover from an ACL

The name you’re searching for is Alex Dodson

Thank f**k someone deciphered those hieroglyphs.

Think we’d be better off offering pick 21 to Freo for Knobel and pick 27 if we’re going to go down that path. Comes with an extra two years development and pick 27.

 

[Goroyals22]

A guy called the rumour king has mentioned we have touched base with Brayden Pruess as a potential rookie pickup….

Will either miss the season injured , suspended or injure others at training


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[garlic munchers]

And Geelong will get Bailey Smith for pick 15. This shit is foul, I hate how willing our club's been to get bent over come trade period. It's disheartening.

Yep, more 100 point flogging from the Cats to come……

 

[eaglevision]

Rivals circle Eagles midfielder as contract talk stall

Three clubs are circling an out-of-contract Eagle as West Coast’s seek to restart contract talks following the appointment of Andrew McQualter.

thewest.com.au

Anyone able to jailbreak this or is it just more WoodCOCK nonsense?

 

[Schtinker]

Rivals circle Eagles midfielder as contract talk stall

Three clubs are circling an out-of-contract Eagle as West Coast’s seek to restart contract talks following the appointment of Andrew McQualter.

thewest.com.au

Anyone able to jailbreak this or is it just more WoodCOCK nonsense?

Out-of-contract midfielder Jai Culley is on the radar of several rival clubs as he awaits to find out his fate at West Coast.
The West Australian understands Culley was in talks for a contract extension before the Eagles parted ways with coach Adam Simpson in July which put it on hold. Culley is one of five Eagles alongside Josh Rotham, Luke Edwards, Coby Burgiel and Alex Witherden awaiting to find out their fate after the appointment of Andrew McQualter as coach on Monday.

Rotham is an unrestricted free agent and has drawn interest from interstate clubs after 72 games in eight seasons including 13 this year. Witherden played 18 games this season and averaged 17 disposals, while also playing as a third tall defender having crossed from Brisbane in late 2020. Burgiel is yet to be offered a new contract after struggling with hamstring injuries in his two seasons at the club since being drafted with pick No.29 in the 2022 draft. Edwards’ career is at a cross-roads after he finished the season on the sidelines having sustained three concussions this year — the final coming in the round 20 western derby.

 

[BartBart]

Pick 13 for Baker + Alex dodson (Ruck)

I mean I can see something like that happening. We do need a ruck and he's the best ruck on the draft similar to Harry Barnett (but it would be okay to roll with it again)

How many ruck options would that make on our list?