List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[stallon]

Probably going to be called a bedwetter but its possible the reason that some journalists are adament that pick 13 is included is that a deal has already been agreed to in principal and that was the crux of it.
The talk was Baker was holding off nominating a club until he knew a trade could be facilitated. Hopefully I'm wrong though.

If 13 is included I hope its more then just 21 back. Maybe one of their picks in the 40's to get ahead of a champion bid.
Baker + 21 + 41 for 13 & F4. They've got 3 x 3rd rounders, surely they can give one up.

Theyre not adamant, theyre using words like "expect" and "should".

 

[No Hassle Hough]

Welcome Bo Allan.

Let the melts begin in here.

Actually I don’t know why he’s so unpopular in here. Is it because some see him as a threat to be taken instead of Tobie?

I question his skills by hand and foot and whether he can transition into a midfielder.

If we are going to spend a first rounder on a Mid/Def hybrid, I want that player to have a combination of elite footskills and speed. That way, if the player doesn't develop into a midfielder he will still be an effective attacking HBF.

Not saying he doesn't have other strengths, but we are well stocked for moderately skilled non KPP defenders.

 

[eaglevision]

How can we give Richmond 22 when we don't hold it. It goes automatically to Richmond if it is a compensation pick

We can control if it’s pick 22 or pick 39. Handshake deal to bump the salary to give them a better pick

 

[Andyy]

We can control if it’s pick 22 or pick 39. Handshake deal to bump the salary to give them a better pick

Yep, several people don't seem to understand this.

Pretty sure Hawks/RFC did it with the Vickery FA compo and ensured it would be P27 or whatever.

Personally I wouldn't be trading 13 to RFC if I was WCE. I'd take a couple of picks in the early-mid 20's though.


Alternatively, could WCE trade Graham in? Will taking him impact any Darling Compo? Trade would mitigate that. I'd do Baker + Graham for P13.

 

[Hook461123]

Theyre not adamant, theyre using words like "expect" and "should".

Rhino seemed pretty adament and his normally pretty good with his Eagles info

 

[squashface]

Yep, several people don't seem to understand this.

Pretty sure Hawks/RFC did it with the Vickery FA compo and ensured it would be P27 or whatever.

Personally I wouldn't be trading 13 to RFC if I was WCE. I'd take a couple of picks in the early-mid 20's though.


Alternatively, could WCE trade Graham in? Will taking him impact any Darling Compo? Trade would mitigate that. I'd do Baker + Graham for P13.

Darling isn't a free agent - contracted for next year so it will be a trade

 

[Elite Pete]

redirect to resident cage rattler and breaker WCE_phil

I am sure I "read" somewhere we offered a 2yr deal. Not having a coach is difficult for some of these players who want clarity on role. McQualter would have to conjure one up.

Yeah Sam Edmund reported last Wednesday on trade bell he had 2 year offer from Eagles and Dogs sitting in front of him. Eagles could out price the Dogs if they wished.

Josh Gabelich does seem closer to the situation reported that he has 2 years in front of him from the Dogs. He is Ports plan B and might land there if they miss on Richards.

He said Eagles interest has dropped off a little but if either WA club offered him a deal he thought Riley would take it. He said today Eagles are one to watch but no offer yet. Maybe if Dev doesn’t come or Graham stays at Richmond?

 

[TerryFilk]

Yeah I was never actually saying Bo is ahead of TT or that we should take him, I was asking why he seems a little on the nose in here at times.

I mentioned him mainly because if we are playing a high intensity chaos ball type game then that really suits his game. He brings lots of effort, tackling pressure and speed to the table which suits that type of game.

I know people will say that’s Ginbey 2.0 but if they watch enough of him he is quite different in many aspects to Reuben. I quite liked his finals efforts for Peel, he didn’t rack up huge numbers but he played his part.

I don’t think he’s very different to Ginbey at all, both were physically ahead of others in their draft year, both struggle to accumulate a lot of the footy, both are reactive rather than proactive, both of their skills are subpar at best and that’s probably being generous, both play with a high level of tenacity though.

I just think there are several better and more suited prospects to us than Allan who looks a better defender than a midfielder but also is not the type of defender we need.

Even in a best case scenario where he ends up being a good midfielder, I still don’t see him having a great outside game, being a goal scorer or very damaging forward of centre.

 

[stallon]

Rhino seemed pretty adament and his normally pretty good with his Eagles info

He didnt see adamant at all.
He only said 13 because he said 23 wont get it done, and 13 is our next pick. He mentioned that we'd need to get creative to find a more suitable pick, otherwise he thinks 13 would have to be involved

 

[hbk2015]

Surely we take a punt on DGB former pick 6, costs nothing

 

[BartBart]

Surely we take a punt on DGB former pick 6, costs nothing

Personally I wouldn't but if you did, surely you's just wait for Hawthorn to cut him before considering him as an option.

 

[Andyy]

Darling isn't a free agent - contracted for next year so it will be a trade

Thanks for clarifying that.

WCE fans happy to let him go? I know he's had a few lean years but I've always rated him as a player.

 

[Big_Birdy]

Thanks for clarifying that.

WCE fans happy to let him go? I know he's had a few lean years but I've always rated him as a player.

Happy enough for him to go in the circumstances.

We would all melt if he got another year because we have two KPFs who we rate waiting in the wings (J Williams and A Reid).

Club legend. If he wants to get a couple more years of playing how could we begrudge him that?

 

[Goroyals22]

Surely we take a punt on DGB former pick 6, costs nothing

We want to get rid of spuds, not gain them


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[Andyy]

We want to get rid of spuds, not gain them


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agreed that bloke has been such a flop unfortunately

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

How can we give Richmond 22 when we don't hold it. It goes automatically to Richmond if it is a compensation pick

We tell them we will give Graham enough salary to take him from band 4 (pick 39 ) to band 3 ( pick 22 ) free agentcy compo if you deal us Baker for cheap

 

[flyinghi64]

Surely we take a punt on DGB former pick 6, costs nothing

Cale Morton MK11 would be a real punt.

 

[wirra44]

Thanks for clarifying that.

WCE fans happy to let him go? I know he's had a few lean years but I've always rated him as a player.

Most eagles fans are over the moon with him leaving, we have a few talented key talls coming through in Jack Williams, Archer Reid and Ryan Maric that need games and Darling has been taking up a spot for the last 2 years, and it’s not like we need any experienced talls to show them the ropes as we have Allen and Waterman.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Surely we take a punt on DGB former pick 6, costs nothing

If delisted, I take him as a train on before making the call.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Thanks for clarifying that.

WCE fans happy to let him go? I know he's had a few lean years but I've always rated him as a player.

He is still a reasonable player and afl quality too as seen with his best on ground performance late in the season .

He just needs to step aside so our young key forwards can get a game . He isn't prepared to play wafl so asked for a trade .
He will do well at norf . He is a smart forward and good kick for goal

 

[Obeanie1]

There are only so many fringe mids we can have on a list.

Its one thing when they are genuine kids. But Garcia is 23.

If Garcia's agent is smart, he would have already said to him

"look Riley, you may get into the midfield rotation at times at the Eagles in 2025. But they will also have a fresh pick 3 they will want to roll through there, and after most likely another bottom 4 year there, they either get in Chad Warner, or they get in another pick 1-4 midfielder. So by 2026 you are behind Reid, Yeo, Kelly, Hewett, Pick 3 2024 and pick 4 2025 or Warner. Even if you are the better player now, where they are at they will want to play the kids 20 and under before you. If they need pinch hitters through the midfield, they will have Baker and Graham. By the time Yeo and Kelly have retired, you are 26, their new generation of mids are now ready to take their place and you have gone nowhere".

It not that he wouldn't be a handy pick up for 2025, but if we haven't already selected the players to blast straight past him by 2026 and 2027 we aren't serious.

I'd imagine any agent with a non-established gun mid around the ages of 23-25 with a contract from another club in front of them would be telling them to steer clear of us.

Yeo and Kelly gone in 3 years. Hewett has massive questions on his foot issue.

Our midfield depth is close to non existent. Even Richmond has more depth.

And you think his manager would steer him away from the Eagles because of a lack of opportunity? Really?

Very few draftee mids impact like Harley did.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Yeo and Kelly gone in 3 years. Hewett has massive questions on his foot issue.

Our midfield depth is close to non existent. Even Richmond has more depth.

And you think his manager would steer him away from the Eagles because of a lack of opportunity? Really?

Very few draftee mids impact like Harley did.

Which is why this draft and trade is simply about adding Midfielders. Whatever we do load up on them.

 

[WCEswift]

We would be silly not to ask about soldo i assume he has a relationship with mini

 

[Elite Pete]

With Daniher retired trade radio discusses possible replacements. Jenkins mentioned Bailey Williams……

 

[Footfalcon]

I reckon Barrass makes it to Sydney, we receive Warner and give Sydney a pick