List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

This would work but need to complicate it a bit more to confuse the idiots at HQ
Like throw in #23 for our #29 + #41

Nah you'll have more top end picks than us, your mob can throw in 29 for a couple of our crap picks

 

[eaglevision]

If Norf are prepared to trade their F1 for Houston and Port are prepared to accept GCS pick 13 (but not Norf’s F1) for Houston then I’d happily trade pick 14 to Norf for their F1.

Would give us our own as well as Hawks and Norf F1 next year.

Pay band 3 (pick 24) for Graham and add F3, Petch, Rotham and Culley for Baker take it or leave it and geez I hope they leave it. They won’t want to take Rotham via FA because it will dilute their Graham compo.

2024: 3, 25, 59, 64 (Darling)
2025: R1, R1 (Norf), R1 (Hawks), R4

Take best mid, Oliver, Champion and Dennis this year then 2 x top 5 mids next year and best KPD with the Hawks pick. Could easily be Rodriguez, Greeves and Curtin jnr.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

3 for Baker+6+9, an Graham fetches pick 2
Essentially 2+3 for 6+9+Baker+Graham for Richmond
Ends at 6+9+Baker+Graham for pick 3 for the Eagles

Richmond ends up with pick 2, 3, 16 for Bolton, Graham, Rioli and Baker
Eagles end up with 6, 9, Baker, Graham for pick 3 (not counting Barrass trade)

You could argue this, even if everybody knows its clearly a rort.

Yo. You stole my idea

I was less harsh though and said I'd give a future 2nd to get back one of Richmond's pick 30 odds though

 

[moog]

you wouldn't be a little upset if after pick 2 the next 20 best talents in the draft were all academy linked?

I would be, but in that scenario I'd count those players as players we can't get anyway and the earlier they get bid on by other clubs the better.

 

[plays tall 1]

The club’s off-field performance so far appears pretty insipid.

It seems we’ve been corralled into dealing with Hawthorn exclusively on Barrass. I don’t recall any statement (from the Geelong playbook) to the effect that, if he wants to get to Melbourne, there are plenty of clubs there and we’re happy to deal with whoever can provide fair value. They’ve been played like guitars by Hawthorn and Barrass so far.

It seems (from the confidence of a few of the credible footy journos) we must’ve conceded we’ll need to hand over pick 13 for Baker (albeit with some other picks possibly exchanged). This heavily dilutes the Barrass compensation and begs the question is there really any point proceeding

And from the deathly silence, it would appear we’re too shy to ask for a priority pick.

FFS guys LIFT!!!

 

[juddy_Like]

So the year is 2023 and we have just won the wooden spoon and in desperate need of high end youth through the draft.

Only problem is we have the McKay compo, the Sanders NGA, Gold Coast 4 academy players, North Priority picks, etc, etc and next thing we know is the top of Round 2 of the draft is Pick 29.

The media is finally alarmed about how the F does Round 1 go 28 picks!

So now its 2024 and what does the AFL do?

Look at the points issue with matching and advise clubs that the points and rules will change this year. Big outrage namely from the big Vic clubs (Carl & Rich) and boom, AFL retreats and the rules is applied for 2025 instead. I get this and agree with as you can't change rules on the run like that.

However... as AFL HQ is so busy and need to justify a job, they change the NGA academy rules on the fly this year gifting Essendon a free first rounder for nothing with Kako and further diluting the draft. They weren't even expecting it for most of the year.

The broken process is fine if you acknowledge it as it's fixable with some really smart suggestions even offered on here. However when you have peanuts running the show, we might as well give up!

 

[juddy_Like]

As I always say, when you have clubs look to rort and find the holes in the draft system instead of using it for intended purpose of being an equalisation measure, it's totally stuffed. Borderline corrupt even.

 

[Mattman93]

Very un Cleary like.

Starting to get a whiff of what might happening?

Big win for Richmond. We would want something else back

Surely this is just him indulging in a little flight of fancy. There's so many absurdities there.

 

[WA footy mad]

Seriously eagles still wanting baker just goes to show they haven't learnt anything over the past 4 years

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Pick 13 key to Houston, compo twist in deals, Pies eye Demon

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No real contact between Eagles and Champion recently.

Strange as he was training with us 6 or 7 weeks ago.

 

[JoshWoodenSpoon]

Seriously eagles still wanting baker just goes to show they haven't learnt anything over the past 4 years

Magnificent post!! ! Finally, someone has said it!!!!

 

[THE_GUN]

Pay band 3 (pick 24) for Graham and add F3, Petch, Rotham and Culley for Baker take it or leave it and geez I hope they leave

Peth ? Rotham and Culley
Really ?

You would need to pay Band 1 to get rid of them

We have Cumberland , Dow & McIntosh if that makes the trade better ?

 

[mat11]

Peth ? Rotham and Culley
Really ?

You would need to pay Band 1 to get rid of them

We have Cumberland , Dow & McIntosh if that makes the trade better ?

Mate petch is a superstar. Will prob win the brownlow next year. You're getting a bargain

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[MrWoollie]

If Norf are prepared to trade their F1 for Houston and Port are prepared to accept GCS pick 13 (but not Norf’s F1) for Houston then I’d happily trade pick 14 to Norf for their F1.

Would give us our own as well as Hawks and Norf F1 next year.

Death riding 2 clubs. 3 clubs if we include our own!

This would at least add some interest to what I suspect will be another horrible season.

 

[hbk2015]

Id still be throwing a few $$ at Neil Erasmus

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Seriously eagles still wanting baker just goes to show they haven't learnt anything over the past 4 years

Where has it been said the Eagles are after Baker? Baker declared us his club he would like to come to. The Eagles rightfully should explore this.
Now if it happens it will come down to what we pay for him. But until that time nit sure why everyone is so worried.

 

[Elite Pete]

Surely this is just him indulging in a little flight of fancy. There's so many absurdities there.

That scenario you’d think so. AFL would see straight through it. Band 2 and a deal worked around that could easily be manipulated.

I think most are think Jack knew it was coming down to these two teams for the last 3 months. How doesn’t he know yet? If he doesn’t, why hasn’t he signed? Maybe one last hold out to see if he can get some more from Eagles or Tigers? Or enough time for list managers and agents to see what contracts landed what band?

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Mate petch is a superstar. Will prob win the brownlow next year. You're getting a bargain

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How have we not delisted Petch

 

[eaglevision]

Peth ? Rotham and Culley
Really ?

You would need to pay Band 1 to get rid of them

We have Cumberland , Dow & McIntosh if that makes the trade better ?

I was waiting for you. They are out of contract. Look I know he’s valued at Richmond but I just don’t want Baker. Even for a F2. Please just keep him or send him to Freo for pick 10 or 110 I don’t care.

 

[InsideBull]

I'll never quite understand the posters on here who seem to think that players publicly announce their desire to move to a specific club without coming to an agreement with that club beforehand

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Pick 30 it will be and maybe 31 if we over pay Graham

After all the academy & f/s matches, how much further will it fall?

 

[BSD]

Very un Cleary like.

Starting to get a whiff of what might happening?

Big win for Richmond. We would want something else back

I'll never quite understand the posters on here who seem to think that players publicly announce their desire to move to a specific club without coming to an agreement with that club beforehand

Does anyone know who at the V/AFL makes the decision regarding compensation picks.

 

[Hook461123]

If Baker signs 1 more year with Richmond then could we get him as RFA next year .Richmond could get pick 1or 2 for him then and we cough up nothing picks wise

This should totally be the play. Let the AFL pay the draft capital for him.
Sorry Baker i know you want to come to Perth this year but its the team before individuals. Plus he's the one who signed a deal that finished 1year before he was a RFA.

 

[stallon]

Thats too complex and i dont like giving up #6

My idea would be more in line with Bolton involved

Graham 5 years @ $900k = #2 compo
Bolton to Eagles pick #14 (richmond cover $300k x 4 year ) effectively the difference you guys paying graham
Baker to eagles F2

Eagles : #3 , Baker , Bolton , #23
Richmond : #1 , #2 , #14

I dont really want Bolton tbh, id rather picks.

Definitely think this band 1 Graham thing should be explored more though, hopefully the clubs are thinking it too lol

 

[stallon]

Yo. You stole my idea

I was less harsh though and said I'd give a future 2nd to get back one of Richmond's pick 30 odds though

Haha it would be an absolute rort, should email the club and make sure they are thinking it too.

Can be some tinkering but something like that would be absolutely amazing, and basically counts as compo for both clubs