List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[bombard]

Between last year and the coaching appointment, it's abundantly clear the media has no ****ing idea what we're thinking. Just let it play out and stop taking the bait.

The bedsheets will be there for you when you need them, relax.

 

[Ghossein]

Carlton board. I’m out of this is anywhere near true

It's a carlton fan saying they are confident, it's probably not true

 

[EagleEgo]

This year's top 15 players are very even, WCE should do the pick 3 and pick 12 +14 swap if this trade is made available. We can consider further upgrade or downgrade later for the target players we want.
Two potentially good players is better than one potentially good player

 

[Ghossein]

My sources have told me west coast are going to trade pick 3 + Barrass to Hawthorn for pick 91

 

[ronpingwins]

This year's top 15 players are very even, WCE should do the pick 3 and pick 12 +14 swap if this trade is made available. We can consider further upgrade or downgrade later for the target players we want.

We’re pissing away 1 on Baker. I’m pissing myself

 

[Mico89]

Split pick 3 for two top 10 picks, trade one of those picks with the blues for 12 and 14. Give Tigers 14 for Baker. Would then leave us with 1 top 10 draft pick and 12 that we could hopefully use for Bo Allan

On SM-A156E using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[Avalor]

They are not under achievers, they have been part of and okayed very important roles for the tigers in a successful era we could only dream about.
Why do we continue to bag players from other clubs and put our own players as all stars and champions.
It’s really annoying.

There are plenty who bag our own too. Personally, I can't be bothered with those who bag our own. Low lifes!

 

[ep2018]

It's a carlton fan saying they are confident, it's probably not true

Its a Carlton board ITK. Worst part of his info is the 'mid range pick' we're supposedly also including.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Like mentioned there would have to be much, much more (hopefully).

But else can we extract from them?
Their next pick this year is 69.
Next year they practically have a couple of 3rd round picks from what I can tell.

 

[random260]

Jesus there's a huge gap between 1-6 to 12-18.

We are seriously the dumbest recruiting team on the planet.

People wonder why we have a lack of mids that can touch the ball.

I can't believe im saying this but trading future 1st For Dan Curtin was better then this crapola. And that future 1st For Curtin is still pretty crapola.

I refuse to believe the Carlton thing can get done. We rejected their future 1st and this year's first rounder. So now since we have two first rounders this year we take it?? I doubt it

 

[Ghossein]

But else can we extract from them?
Their next pick this year is 69.
Next year they practically have a couple of 3rd round picks from what I can tell.

3 way trade

 

[bUCKET__]

Pick 14 and wetting the bed, damn boi is there a better combo

 

[Lyyynnnchy]

Valued round an early teens pick. Around means plus or minus what?

And do all players get traded for exactly what they are worth? No they often dont.

Is Bailey Smith valued at pick 17? Hell no.

Did the Dogs get fair value for Dunckley? Absolutely not.

What about Dawson to the Crows? Pfffft. Swans still get cranky at that deal.

Future 1st in the teens might be the max.

you’re completely missing the point. I’m not arguing about what he’ll be traded for

I was responding to a poster who said we should go to Richmond and tell them we value him as a 2nd round pick

 

[EagleEgo]

We’re pissing away 1 on Baker. I’m pissing myself

This decision should no consideration of Baker but instead "how even the top 15 players" are.

Split pick 3 for two top 10 picks, trade one of those picks with the blues for 12 and 14. Give Tigers 14 for Baker. Would then leave us with 1 top 10 draft pick and 12 that we could hopefully use for Bo Allan

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Perfect but all recruiters know this is a even draft and not many demand in getting top 5 pick (if they have to pay over)

 

[tigger_ferret]

I feel for you guys as a supporter base. Most years #3 would get you a kings ransom. But inside this top 10 - clubs won’t package those picks to go further.

Maybe it’s worthwhile to try get 6+10 for 3? ( Is that possible?) and it seems you’ll get F1s for Barrass, so use one for Baker?

It’s the luck of the dice.

I would much rather our draft hand from the last 2 years than it being reversed. Pick 1 and Reid last year compared with pick 1 this year is not even close

 

[MeltMan]

LOOKS LIKE MELTS BACK ON THE MENU BOIZ!!


Not sure it was ever off tbh.

Unzips
You rang?

 

[Bender_]

Jesus there's a huge gap between 1-6 to 12-18.

We are seriously the dumbest recruiting team on the planet.

People wonder why we have a lack of mids that can touch the ball.

I can't believe im saying this but trading future 1st For Dan Curtin was better then this crapola. And that future 1st For Curtin is still pretty crapola.

I refuse to believe the Carlton thing can get done. We rejected their future 1st and this year's first rounder. So now since we have two first rounders this year we take it?? I doubt it

NOTHING. HAS. HAPPENED. YET.

 

[Obeanie1]

A lot of role player types and guys who might not make it in that group of 17 though. Still need some high end talent to go with it

Ádd another 4 or 5. Makes 20 odd kids.

And you are right all wont make it. But some will and others may surprise.

Listening to the new coach he mentioned taking some of Richmonds chaos fast play when they were at their peak but also bring in some new defensive structures he was apart of at Melbourne.

Now that sounds interesting and hopefully the end of the dead, defensive wing. He also said we will look to move the ball quicker as we have two quality tall forwards who can take advantage of that quick ball movement.

 

[MITSUHIRATO]

Its a Carlton board ITK. Worst part of his info is the 'mid range pick' we're supposedly also including.

That ITK has only posted 3 times in 15 years …

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Jesus there's a huge gap between 1-6 to 12-18.

We are seriously the dumbest recruiting team on the planet.

People wonder why we have a lack of mids that can touch the ball.

I can't believe im saying this but trading future 1st For Dan Curtin was better then this crapola. And that future 1st For Curtin is still pretty crapola.

I refuse to believe the Carlton thing can get done. We rejected their future 1st and this year's first rounder. So now since we have two first rounders this year we take it?? I doubt it

 

[Bender_]

Clarke midday Friday:



Clarke 9am Saturday:




(I know they're not the same statue you tedious virgins)

 

[ep2018]

Based on the Carlton guys post.

We trade 3, a 'mid range pick linked to player movement' and a couple of very late picks (for points) for 12 and 14.

Suspect we do what the club originally planned and give Richmond 14 for Baker. Take best available with 12.

Based on the 'mid range pick linked to player movement' we expect the Barrass deal with Hawthorn to be done.

Potentially Barrass for a F1 and F2 (our original asking price, except a F1 instead of 14). F2 goes to Carlton as part of the deal.

Out: 3, Barrass. In: Baker, 12, Hawks (or Carlton) F1.

 

[eaglespremiers]

Can only assume then WCE see some massive value in 12 & 14.
It seems (from ITK on our board) that we're getting your latter picks as well thrown in.
If it's all about Bo Allen just take him at 3.

You'll need to add another top 15 pick to make it remotely reasonable (even then it's not a great outcome for us).
Don't want Allan at all for West Coast. Would prefer we overpay for Travaglia at a top 10 pick (not 3) than trade down for your proposed picks and getting Baker and Allan. We don't need to be tanking the draft as well as the season.

 

[MeltMan]

NOTHING. HAS. HAPPENED. YET.

WHY ARE WE YELLING?!

 

[Bacchus]

Sure, but you trade pick 3 for overs, not pretty good.

It’s not even pretty good it’s pretty ordinary.

Instead of a top echelon player we’d be getting a next level one plus Baker - a poor result.

Baker has to be taken out of it - a twenties pick, PSD, or forget.

Our whole drafting strategy seems to being built around a ‘goodish player who is not good enough to be at the center of an important drafting year.