List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Obeanie1]

Disgusting.

No it isnt isnt when we walk away with 3 future 1st round picks.

You obviously are focused on this years top 10.

 

[Coasters7]

12 and 14 isn't enough for 3 on it's own, be interesting to see what else could be involved.

They’d need to find a way to get the GC pick or one of the Saints picks. Trading 3 for a bunch of picks outside of the top mids seems very counterintuitive. Especially if part of that is then used for Baker

 

[ghostbat12]

Between last year and the coaching appointment, it's abundantly clear the media has no ****ing idea what we're thinking. Just let it play out and stop taking the bait.

The bedsheets will be there for you when you need them, relax.

Oh so you only came to realisation this in last year?

Media is entertainment. So anything is for entertainment only. Speculation is part of entertainment.

 

[beagles]

I thought the AFL had said they want Tassie to be successful from day one. If not explicitly stated it was implied that they wouldn’t be set up like the two northern teams, that is, based on repeated multiple good picks. Established players would be at least a good part of it.

Thus we can’t know how much Tassie will compromise - further compromise - the draft/trade.

Yes, this needs to be clarified by the AFL before future trading, as the had previously said they we looking at picks in the 1st round picks for Tassie that needed to be trade for mature players. Lots of unknowns for 2027 and different to GC & GWS concessions.

 

[ziad]

This year's top 15 players are very even, WCE should do the pick 3 and pick 12 +14 swap if this trade is made available. We can consider further upgrade or downgrade later for the target players we want.
Two potentially good players is better than one potentially good player

The Ginbey plan at #2.

 

[Bender_]

WHY ARE WE YELLING?!

 

[Elite Pete]

This can not be true.

Carlton have nothing but 12 and 14 to give up and surely Clarke can not be taking that for 3.

Bo Allan and Baker and future picks from this trade period is putrid

 

[archiemoses]

Just imagine if we traded 3 for 12 and 14 and used 14 on Liam Baker

3

Liam Baker

Age

26

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

222.2

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

191.9

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

224.2

4star

.

Full circle melts

 

[Obeanie1]

This would be an absolutely disgusting deal, esp if 14 still goes to Richmond for Baker.
So 3 for 12 + Baker...
The downgrade from 3 to 6 looking good right now lmao.
I can't fathom how we would even consider a trade like this.

We wont.

Its the Vic media playing with your sanity the only way the Vic media know.

By writting one sides BS articles to appease rhe frothing masses of Richmond and other Vic team supporters.

Its just what they do mate.

We need to take a deep breath....and do some

Before another week of.....

 

[MITSUHIRATO]

What else would Carlton be able to give? Need a substantial amount more (i.e. a top 10 pick) to make it worth it for West Coast.

Cripps.

 

[Bestbird]

Would rather just keep our current draft picks and Barrass with a future 2nd plus a few late pick swaps for Baker than offers reported in the media so far

 

[eaglespremiers]

Cripps.

You wouldn't give him up and he's too old for our rebuild. Either it's three picks between 10-15 or one top 10 pick and one top 15 pick.
Honestly I think we'll get Richmond to come at pick 6 plus Baker for pick 3 (potentially plus your future second from Hawthorn in the Barrass trade), so there's a fair bit of work Carlton will have to do to make up that difference if they want pick 3.

 

[Obeanie1]

Did everyone actually read the part where it says there are more moving parts and it won't be a straight swap of 3 for 12+14?

Our sheets were almost dry. Almost.

Well Ashton Moir ex pick 20 is a start. That is one kid who would jump at a trade to us IMO.

Are the Blues trading anyone out of any value? Didnt think so.

Something like.

Kennedy a F2nd and WCF3rd to Richmond for losing Baker and 45. Fair.

Eagles lose 3, Petro and a F3rd.

Eagles gain Picks 12 , 14, Baker, Moir and Carrol. Carrol and Petro net off IMO.

So in essense pick 3 and WCF3rd saty 43 for 12, 14, 20(Moir) plus Baker.

Pick 3, 45 and Petruccelle to Blues.

Eagles go to the draft with 12, 14, 26 and whatever falls out?

Note: I dont get why Richmond would consider this unless they will trade for Norths pick 2.

 

[wirra44]

We wont.

Its the Vic media playing with your sanity the only way the Vic media know.

By writting one sides BS articles to appease rhe frothing masses of Richmond and other Vic team supporters.

Its just what they do mate.

We need to take a deep breath....and do some

Before another week of.....

It’s coming from Ryan Daniels to who’s normally pretty bang on with eagles news.

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

Based on the Carlton guys post.

We trade 3, a 'mid range pick linked to player movement' and a couple of very late picks (for points) for 12 and 14.

Suspect we do what the club originally planned and give Richmond 14 for Baker. Take best available with 12.

Based on the 'mid range pick linked to player movement' we expect the Barrass deal with Hawthorn to be done.

Potentially Barrass for a F1 and F2 (our original asking price, except a F1 instead of 14). F2 goes to Carlton as part of the deal.

Out: 3, Barrass. In: Baker, 12, Hawks (or Carlton) F1.

No one is that stupid

 

[EagleEgo]

The Ginbey plan at #2.

Anyone who has followed the mock draft for the last 6 months would notice the change in ranking of the top players. Even now, we don't have a universally agreed ranking. The draft points should not be an exponential curve this year; it should be a very even linear curve.
We would not be surprised to see (a few years later) many star players coming from the lower picks.

 

[eaglespremiers]

Could these trades work:

Trade 1: Hawthorn get Barrass, we get Hawthorn 2nd rounder this year, Carlton F1st and Carlton F2nd
Trade 2: Richmond get pick 3 and Carlton F2nd, we get Baker and pick 6 (don't like this trade, but I think Richmond will want more than pick 3 for pick 6 and Baker, and we seem to really want Baker for some reason, so I'm trying to figure out a way that isn't really poor for us).

Our picks this year would then be pick 6, pick 26, pick 32
Pick 6 is probably about the value of picks 12 and 14. Although I personally wouldn't support such a trade with Carlton it would net us four picks in the first two rounds (12, 14, 26 and 32).
Our picks next year would be: WC1st, C1st (could be a top 10 pick), WC2nd

 

[Balls In]

Jesus there's a huge gap between 1-6 to 12-18.

We are seriously the dumbest recruiting team on the planet.

People wonder why we have a lack of mids that can touch the ball.

I can't believe im saying this but trading future 1st For Dan Curtin was better then this crapola. And that future 1st For Curtin is still pretty crapola.

I refuse to believe the Carlton thing can get done. We rejected their future 1st and this year's first rounder. So now since we have two first rounders this year we take it?? I doubt it

I agree. Far greater chance of picking up an elite player from pick 3 than you do from pick 10 onwards. That is why the draft is set up that way. We have Reid and the chance to pick another gun next to him for the next 10 years. Yes we need to build our team generally, but that is easier to do later once you have your elite talent in place.

 

[Jupes]

this 3 for 12+14 (on trading 14 for baker) info is a clarke/pyke psyop to make us happy with 3 for 6+baker

 

[Rajeshtalk]

Potential trade scenario, trade 3 for saints 7,8.
Trade 8 and f2 to Carlton for 12,14,
Trade wce f1 and f3 to gc for 6,13, trade 12,13,14 to Richmond for Shai and Liam, take 6, 7 and 26 to draft, retain f1 hawks and f1 Carlton from a trade of barrass with hawks for a chance at Warner next year, win

 

[stallon]

If we're really keen on going for Warner next year, which we should be, we should not be on-trading any future first round picks.
It just doesn't add up, unless we don't expect to be in a position to make a play for Warner.

we dont need to be able to entirely satisfy the Swans with 2025 picks next year for Warner, we have 2026 and 2027 picks to use too.
As long as we get Warner to commit to us, then its easy, just offer future picks. You think Geelong care if they have the correct assets ready to go to trade in a a player? We would make it happen somehow

Id like to bring our natural F1 into this year and keep the blues/hawks f1s to use for Warner with whatever future picks to make up the right value

 

[eaglespremiers]

Id like to bring our natural F1 into this year and keep the blues/hawks f1s to use for Warner with whatever future picks to make up the right value

The same principle would apply in this situation, no?
We want to retain a first in next year's draft (ours/Carltons etc) and not trade it on to Richmond.

 

[random260]

we dont need to be able to entirely satisfy the Swans with 2025 picks next year for Warner, we have 2026 and 2027 picks to use too.
As long as we get Warner to commit to us, then its easy, just offer future picks. You think Geelong care if they have the correct assets ready to go to trade in a a player? We would make it happen somehow

Id like to bring our natural F1 into this year and keep the blues/hawks f1s to use for Warner with whatever future picks to make up the right value

All we need to do is beat Fremantle offer in pick.

Warner might do a Baker go to clubs that can offer better pick to Sydney

 

[kerrazy]

That Carlton poster who posted the rumour about 3 for 12 and 14 has only made 3 posts since making a bf account 15 years ago.

 

[squashface]

3 for 12 and 14?

Gee whiz that’s foul, my bed is soaked.

Giving up top level talent for Chesser areas of the draft.