List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[06Premiers]

It's the Tigers 23 and 24 in this draft I'd be going after for our futures pick

They'll already have 5 picks under 20, then the first pick of night 2, which is the pick 20 itself.

Pick 20 too expensive to target, they'll be selling that for a premium so I'd skip that and just focus on their last couple.

Will still be quality players available on the board.

Pick 24 is the first pick of round 2.

18 teams, 23 first round picks. What a league!

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Pyke has been honest during the process. He told us he would use all means available to improve.
I think we have done OK and you are not seeing the bigger picture.

The big picture is we sold pick 3 for less than what we could've got for it on draft night, which will now force us to consider selling off our F1 to get the same picks we should already have, diluting the power of our trade hand for warner next year.

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[Astro7]

I've read somewhere that Reid has says he doesn't want to move. Not sure if true or not.

He also said he was excited at the prospect of playing with Baker. (but he is only 19)

 

[Bender_]

He also said he was excited at the prospect of playing with Baker. (but he is only 19)

Think he's referring to a third Reid that's in this year's draft cohort.

 

[Astro7]

For me...witherden rotham and Edwards go.

Burgeil and Culley stay.

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Isn't Culley slow? What does he offer in a faster paced team? He is another midfield option (depth) and he only played limited time there, but wasn't so impressive re footy smarts and swervability, more bash n' crash.

 

[Astro7]

Think he's referring to a third Reid that's in this year's draft cohort.

My bad...

 

[WCE_phil]

I've read somewhere that Reid has says he doesn't want to move. Not sure if true or not.

If he's not signed by the mid year bye i'll be worried. Preseason, 6 rounds of footy and then onto the contract that he should show he deserves. Geelong at the end of this contract would happily throw 10 years and 15+ mill at him at even close to current rate of improvement. He'd be back in Victoria but not in the Melbourne fishbowl. The club simply must put a contract worth signing in front of him within a few weeks of the main season starting if he has a good preseason.

Also honestly people don't think the club had every crack at Free agents?

Would you have given Cumming a 6 year deal or Perryman a 7 year deal? I sure as shit wouldn't have. A 4 year deal for Cumming and 5 years for Perryman at most.

6 year deal for Cumming for an already injury prone player takes him through till 32. 7 year deal for Perryman takes him through till 33.

Oh and chews 1.6+ mill of contract space.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Culley should be developed to play the backup Yeo role of inside hard ball gets mid. He also adds some versatility into the forward line if we lose some height through injury.

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[greatwhiteshark]

Culley should be developed to play the backup Yeo role of inside hard ball gets mid. He also adds some versatility into the forward line if we lose some height through injury.

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He can't as he is not good enough and does not have the talent to play it.

 

[squashface]

If he's not signed by the mid year bye i'll be worried. Preseason, 6 rounds of footy and then onto the contract that he should show he deserves. Geelong at the end of this contract would happily throw 10 years and 15+ mill at him at even close to current rate of improvement. He'd be back in Victoria but not in the Melbourne fishbowl. The club simply must put a contract worth signing in front of him within a few weeks of the main season starting if he has a good preseason.

Any chance you could give us some good news? Or is it all just a shitshow?

 

[WCEConnor23]

If he's not signed by the mid year bye i'll be worried. Preseason, 6 rounds of footy and then onto the contract that he should show he deserves. Geelong at the end of this contract would happily throw 10 years and 15+ mill at him at even close to current rate of improvement. He'd be back in Victoria but not in the Melbourne fishbowl. The club simply must put a contract worth signing in front of him within a few weeks of the main season starting if he has a good preseason.

Also honestly people don't think the club had every crack at Free agents?

Would you have given Cumming a 6 year deal or Perryman a 7 year deal? I sure as shit wouldn't have. A 4 year deal for Cumming and 5 years for Perryman at most.

6 year deal for Cumming for an already injury prone player takes him through till 32. 7 year deal for Perryman takes him through till 33.

Oh and chews 1.6+ mill of contract space.

Yep they were both massive overpays

 

[WCE_phil]

He can't as he is not good enough and does not have the talent to play it.

This. He's a state league centreman. He just doesn't have the natural inside instinct to make up for his deficiencies playing midfield imo.

Shit he may make a great state league FF too. But he's too slow to play as a lead up forward at AFL level in the modern game.

 

[WCE_phil]

Any chance you could give us some good news? Or is it all just a shitshow?

TBH I thought the end result of the Barrass trade was very good news for everyone, but I might be too close to it.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

If he's not signed by the mid year bye i'll be worried. Preseason, 6 rounds of footy and then onto the contract that he should show he deserves. Geelong at the end of this contract would happily throw 10 years and 15+ mill at him at even close to current rate of improvement. He'd be back in Victoria but not in the Melbourne fishbowl. The club simply must put a contract worth signing in front of him within a few weeks of the main season starting if he has a good preseason.

Also honestly people don't think the club had every crack at Free agents?

Would you have given Cumming a 6 year deal or Perryman a 7 year deal? I sure as shit wouldn't have. A 4 year deal for Cumming and 5 years for Perryman at most.

6 year deal for Cumming for an already injury prone player takes him through till 32. 7 year deal for Perryman takes him through till 33.

Oh and chews 1.6+ mill of contract space.

Attracting talent to your club is dependent on 2 things. Winning games of footy and seeing yourself part of something.

This is why winning more games next year and signing reid are top priority.

Simmo said in that podcast multiple A grade players enquired about coming to play with Harley. But that won't happen unless he stays for a sizable time.

While I agree a 10yr offer should be touted, I would be happy if he was to at least commit to free agency. That would give us until 2030 (I think) to continue building the list to finals footy level.

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[amazingjoshy]

A few folks talking about "sustained success" and not being happy with one flag.... but then bagging the club for knowing where we're at. Obviously that's the eventual goal, but have some of you missed the last couple of years? We're an uncompetitive team with standards that have dropped through the floor. This needs rectifying BEFORE anything else.

A couple of new players to help the new coach (and coaching group) drive some better standards is a good move imo

Making us a semi competitive football team again and somewhere players (including draftees) want to come and more importantly stay. Its not much fun getting pounded by 10+ points 6-8 times a year.

And as a 30+ year member, it would be nice to actually enjoy going to the footy again with some hope most weeks

 

[MeltMan]

Also honestly people don't think the club had every crack at Free agents?
Perryman a 7 year deal? I sure as shit wouldn't have.
7 year deal for Perryman takes him through till 33.
Oh and chews 1.6+ mill of contract space.

dont pay the perrman? i love that song!

 

[Cornelius Roy]

This. He's a state league centreman. He just doesn't have the natural inside instinct to make up for his deficiencies playing midfield imo.

Shit he may make a great state league FF too. But he's too slow to play as a lead up forward at AFL level in the modern game.

Sorry if I missed this but you mentioned speaking to a few Fremantle players, are you able to expand on this yet and as part of the cage rattling was any consideration given to the ruck?

 

[diknik]

TBH I thought the end result of the Barrass trade was very good news for everyone, but I might be too close to it.

Hey WCE_phil, are Clarke's deficiencies as a negotiator (and any potential others) clear to the Eagles hierarchy, and if so, are they willing and going to do something about it?

 

[EagleEgo]

Men neither. Had a quick look at highlights and read a rookie me profile. Sounds like another back flanker with mid potential. Club will never learn really

Not quite.

 

[Toli13]

Hey WCE_phil - what is the inside word on Warner for next year?

 

[Hook461123]

In the long run for us here on BigFooty this is probably going to be the worst part.
Due to the trade of pick 3 this year, while Clarke remains at the helm, we cannot push back against any trades proposed about West Coast citing them as "nonsensical" or "unreasonable" and that such offers will never be accepted by West Coast under any circumstance.
West Coast have set the precedent. We now know what will be acceptable to West Coast and that standard is very low.
Rather than responding "you can't be serious" or "come back to reality" our response will just have to be "I hope the club's not that stupid" or a shrug

Yeah agree, I'm pretty much expecting the worse outcomes at the moment and anything less then that is a bonus.
We do love a good pick downgrade, its almost like we value top end picks less then any other clubs.

Thinking about it, have we ever traded picks to move up the draft order or just down? Can't think of any examples of us doing a pick swap the other way.

Can think of plenty of downgrades.
GCS pick swap
Sheed downgrade
Xavier O'Neill downgrade
Chesser Downgrade
Ginbey downgrade
2024 Pick 3 downgrade

 

[Nuffington Post]

If we overpayed for Baker, imagine what we pay for Warner.


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[braddalzielleoursaviour]

Not quite.

Jeez he’s got some dash doesn’t he. Lacks composure and ball winning but which I just doing think suits us rn

 

[Elite Pete]

Not quite.

Yuck.

Will be all time low off season if we draft him.

 

[Elite Pete]

If we overpayed for Baker, imagine what we pay for Warner.


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Clarke helped out his old mates.

Now it will be Pykes turn….