List Mgmt. Contract, Trade & Draftee Discussion, 2023: Picks 1,20,34,39,53 ,58

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2024 List Changes : Out: Retired- Gaff Delisted - Jones, Trew(R), Baker(R), Witherden, Burgiel, Culley(R), Rotham, L Edwards Traded - Darling (NM) Barrass (Hawthorn) In: Trade/FA acquisitions - Graham (Richmond) Baker (Richmond) Owies (Carlton) Draft - Allan (Pick 16) Shanahan (Pick 30) Gross...

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[Nuffington Post]

Yeah of course, but I think that’s probably who they’re talking about.

I think it’s Simmo

 

[Truckosaurus]

Clearly Daniel Pratt

Daniel Pratt

Age

41

Ht

185cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.6

4star

K

10.3

4star

HB

5.3

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.8

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.6

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

2.2

2star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.8

4star

, who wasn't named because no one would recognise him.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Gov has already signed a 2 year deal.

Unless Shuey can get a decent period of footy in before the end of the year, I reckon he has to go.

Shuey is cooked . He is giving 100% for this club but his body won't let him . Must be very sad for him .

Unfortunately he needs to step aside

 

[eagles rule]

See Suma is now a draft watcher too is there anything this man can’t do.

Are you aware he was involved with u18 State team ?

wafc-acknowledges-state-18s-coach-peter-sumich

 

[briztoon]

Are you aware he was involved with u18 State team ?

wafc-acknowledges-state-18s-coach-peter-sumich

Does an interview every year on the WA draft prospects.

I’ve only really followed footy since 2015, and my only awareness of Sumich is that he’s been involved with the WA U18’s since I’ve followed the draft. Always thought that’s what he’s known for.

 

[dinnaz]

Does an interview every year on the WA draft prospects.

I’ve only really followed footy since 2015, and my only awareness of Sumich is that he’s been involved with the WA U18’s since I’ve followed the draft. Always thought that’s what he’s known for.

Boy you're in for a treat

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

How tough would the club be using the PSD as a threat or even a tool.

I think they would have no drama doing a reverse Ebert and bringing Georgiades in that way. That would bring a smile to my face even though I do not value Mitch. In addition, we ask Cornes again about his 1st round prediction.

Other WA out of contract to consider:

Think Angus - we have a good relationship with Sydney so I cannot see us using doing it
Robertson - Lions have gone hard in recent years at the trade table so it might be an option
Trey Ruscoe - not sure of our relationship there but a toxic move for a player of average ability does not make sense
Tyler Brockman - screw the Hawks, I like the idea
Jeremy Sharp - not worth souring a trading relationship but I suspect he is delisted anyway.

For sure if we are going to PSD anyone its port !

**** them in their teal assholes .

I don't think Brisbane would even haggle over any 3rd rounder they got for dev if they don't play him . They get plenty of fringe guys at that price - cockatoo , fort , McCarthy

Sydney would want ports 2nd for sheldrik and its probably fair value . Our 2nd is overs . We could push for our 3rd but we have had a mutually beneficial relationship with the swans over the years and it would be better to keep it that way

Trey ruscoe - pick in 50s if we were interested. Probably get him by offering him a 2 year contract. Doubt pies would offer for than 1

 

[eagles rule]

Shuey is cooked . He is giving 100% for this club but his body won't let him . Must be very sad for him .

Unfortunately he needs to step aside

I'll be surprised if he doesn't`t pull the pin this year and get a send off game ..

 

[Chump Change]

I’ve only really followed footy since 2015,

what were you doing before this?

Too young? Different code? Different country?

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

what were you doing before this?

Too young? Different code? Different country?

Watching cartoons in Brisbane?

 

[CountryLad]

Are you aware he was involved with u18 State team ?

wafc-acknowledges-state-18s-coach-peter-sumich

Yeah I’m aware he was, I’m just laughing that he’s having a say on everything West Coast at the moment.
Also just because he was a coach of a junior side doesn’t automatically mean he has an interest in the draft.

 

[briztoon]

what were you doing before this?

Too young? Different code? Different country?

Cycling (a lot), following the NBA and EPL.

Definitely not young. I was 30 when we did our 3 peat.

 

[Mulldogg]

Young Guns, Vic Metro reveal squads for draft talent clash

Notable draft prospects will take part in the series.

www.zerohanger.com

Finally some details on this game, and what do you know it's at Trevor Barker. Boom

Joziah Nannup for the Young Guns is interesting. Surname suggests his family background is from WA given that is a Noongar surname/place name.

Plays for the Dandenong Stingrays. Jai Culley and Bailey Williams’ alma mater.

 

[Chump Change]

Cycling (a lot), following the NBA and EPL.

Definitely not young. I was 30 when we did our 3 peat.

How did you get into AFL, and do you not follow the NRL?

 

[briztoon]

How did you get into AFL, and do you not follow the NRL?

I got hit by a truck riding my bike in 2013. First time I found myself with not much to do for 5 months. (Was not on SM before this).

I always followed the NBA since I was at school, and enjoyed the list building and the analytics side of it.

But wanted something at home I could follow. (edit: and the NBL had gone to sh!t compared to when I used to go to games in the 80’s and 90’s. Seriously wtf 10 minute quarters)

I had been to a few Lions games with a girl I was seeing post our 3 peat, so figured I start watching AFL.

Found BigFooty in 2014.

 

[eagles rule]

Don't be surprised to see Jarrod Cameron

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Jarrod Cameron

Age

24

Ht

182cm

Wt

70kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.0

2star

K

4.7

2star

HB

2.3

2star

M

1.7

2star

T

3.6

5star

G

1.3

5star

D

5.0

1star

K

3.5

1star

HB

1.5

1star

M

0.5

1star

T

2.5

3star

G

0.5

4star

D

8.0

2star

K

5.6

3star

HB

2.4

3star

M

2.0

3star

T

4.2

5star

G

2.0

5star

having another crack at AFL footy again ..Playing footy in the country has reignited his passion and AFL dreams ..

 

[briztoon]

Don't be surprised to see Jarrod Cameron having another crack at AFL footy again ..Playing footy in the country has reignited his passion and AFL dreams ..

Where?

 

[Obeanie1]

So what did Suma say in The Worst?

Something about the draft.......targets?

 

[JADED]

Where?

Read an article on this the other day.
Jarrod spent the last year working in a gold mine in Boddington and playing local footy.
Article mentioned Charlie also.
He'd most likely try and sign as a delisted FA so could nominate his terms. Guess wherever he wants to play. Bris with brother.

 

[eagles rule]

Where?

possibly heading to Brissie ..

 

[dinnaz]

Suma would say our draft targets are all from WA:

Even with the youth we have drafted- we still need to add 1x star KPF and a good stopper FB. Then fill up with midfielders, legitimate fwds and flankers.
Our top pick should be spent on the best available (midfielder Chump Change )and there aren't any standout talls at this stage that #1-3 should be spent on- we go shopping in the 2nd round. There's a lack of depth in the midfielders this year so I expect a few bargains with the taller players

At this stage the likely top 20 draftees from WA are:

Clay Hall: Big bodied midfielder and can go fwd, has cracked league games for Peel. Could go top 10
Luker Kentfield: I'm on at the moment who may be around in the teens. For mine one of WA's top prospects who isn't getting the love. Fantastic overhead.
Koltyn Tholstrup likely goes in the early teens if he's there at #19 I'd snap him up as something like a Robbie Grey type of player, not the most athletic but a natural footballer.
Coen Livingstone: Probably goes in the 20's but has extreme height & ruck ability. Looks to go in between our picks (no ability to match bids) but not someone I would reach for.
Mitchell Edwards: Big tall ruck who wins all of the hitouts. Theres a lot to work with but isn't elite at any single facet at this stage.
Samuel Van Rooyen: also looks to go in the 20's but could be there at ports 2nd rounder #33

 

[ronpingwins]

Suma would say our draft targets are all from WA:

Even with the youth we have drafted- we still need to add 1x star KPF and a good stopper FB. Then fill up with midfielders, legitimate fwds and flankers.
Our top pick should be spent on the best available (midfielder Chump Change )and there aren't any standout talls at this stage that #1-3 should be spent on- we go shopping in the 2nd round. There's a lack of depth in the midfielders this year so I expect a few bargains with the taller players

At this stage the likely top 20 draftees from WA are:

Clay Hall: Big bodied midfielder and can go fwd, has cracked league games for Peel. Could go top 10
Luker Kentfield: I'm on at the moment who may be around in the teens. For mine one of WA's top prospects who isn't getting the love. Fantastic overhead.
Koltyn Tholstrup likely goes in the early teens if he's there at #19 I'd snap him up as something like a Robbie Grey type of player, not the most athletic but a natural footballer.
Coen Livingstone: Probably goes in the 20's but has extreme height & ruck ability. Looks to go in between our picks (no ability to match bids) but not someone I would reach for.
Mitchell Edwards: Big tall ruck who wins all of the hitouts. Theres a lot to work with but isn't elite at any single facet at this stage.
Samuel Van Rooyen: also looks to go in the 20's but could be there at ports 2nd rounder #33

Where do you reckon Curtin places at this stage?

 

[dinnaz]

Where do you reckon Curtin places at this stage?

He hasn't shown up this year at all playing a lot forward. Personally I think late 2nd/early 3rd round (#40) but if he shows some form or settles down back definitely higher.

 

[CountryLad]

Suma would say our draft targets are all from WA:

Even with the youth we have drafted- we still need to add 1x star KPF and a good stopper FB. Then fill up with midfielders, legitimate fwds and flankers.
Our top pick should be spent on the best available (midfielder Chump Change )and there aren't any standout talls at this stage that #1-3 should be spent on- we go shopping in the 2nd round. There's a lack of depth in the midfielders this year so I expect a few bargains with the taller players

At this stage the likely top 20 draftees from WA are:

Clay Hall: Big bodied midfielder and can go fwd, has cracked league games for Peel. Could go top 10
Luker Kentfield: I'm on at the moment who may be around in the teens. For mine one of WA's top prospects who isn't getting the love. Fantastic overhead.
Koltyn Tholstrup likely goes in the early teens if he's there at #19 I'd snap him up as something like a Robbie Grey type of player, not the most athletic but a natural footballer.
Coen Livingstone: Probably goes in the 20's but has extreme height & ruck ability. Looks to go in between our picks (no ability to match bids) but not someone I would reach for.
Mitchell Edwards: Big tall ruck who wins all of the hitouts. Theres a lot to work with but isn't elite at any single facet at this stage.
Samuel Van Rooyen: also looks to go in the 20's but could be there at ports 2nd rounder #33

Curtains for Curtin….

 

[Shueygod]

Sam Mitchell won the BnF and Jordan Lewis come second and they were moved on that year at Hawthorn. Got to look at it as a business. Sentimental list managers lose games. Premierships is the actual name of the game. Gov, Nic Nat, Shuey, Yeo - time to go. They’re not going to get us to the next one. That’s the brutal reality.

How have hawks done since