List Mgmt. Contract, Trade & Draftee Discussion, 2023: Picks 1,20,34,39,53 ,58

[Keys]

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[Miguel Sanchez]

Where did you read this? Genuinely interested.

Any chance you could give us an answer to the question about how you saw the 2022 draft playing out if we didn’t split our pick?

 

[Farang83150]

Any chance you could give us an answer to the question about how you saw the 2022 draft playing out if we didn’t split our pick?

We could've had an injured Wardlaw on the books!

 

[Wormkilla]

Any chance you could give us an answer to the question about how you saw the 2022 draft playing out if we didn’t split our pick?

What question?

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

What question?

Since we’re apparently going over that trade for the umpteenth time since October, what do you think happens if we don’t get involved in the Port-North trade and hang onto pick 2?

Specifically, when our pick comes up, who do we take? And who’s gone off the board at pick 1?

 

[Keys]

And the problem is what exactly?

It more enjoyable than talking about our performances ATM.

I’m interested in who the top draft prospects are and how they’re performing. Getting access to some top talent is one of few silver linings of this shit truck of a season

Hypotheticals around splitting pick 1 I’m less interested in at this stage mainly because it’ll be an ongoing circular discussion for 6 months

Others will disagree and carry on discussing it as is their prerogative. I’m not going to stop it

 

[bzparkes]

I’m interested in who the top draft prospects are and how they’re performing. Getting access to some top talent is one of few silver linings of this s**t truck of a season

Hypotheticals around splitting pick 1 I’m less interested in at this stage mainly because it’ll be an ongoing circular discussion for 6 months

Others will disagree and carry on discussing it as is their prerogative. I’m not going to stop it

 

[Wormkilla]

Well there is zero conclusive evidence put up by anyone that Sheezel actually was refusing to leave Vic. In fact its the opposite. Hes been quoted as saying he would. So that's my answer.

 

[Obeanie1]

Less talk about picks, more talk about Jed Anderson Quinton Narkle and how many B&F's he'd win at our club

Your a funny anker

With a silent w at the front.

Both are better than the bottom 6 list cloggers we are currently running with.

And you know it.

 

[FKASC]

Mods please rename thread to ‘Dump Thread 2023’

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Well there is zero conclusive evidence put up by anyone that Sheezel actually was refusing to leave Vic. In fact its the opposite. Hes been quoted as saying he would. So that's my answer.

That wasn’t the question, though.

Ok. Fine. So we don’t get involved in the trade.

North keep pick 1. Who do they take?

 

[Obeanie1]

Well there is zero conclusive evidence put up by anyone that Sheezel actually was refusing to leave Vic. In fact its the opposite. Hes been quoted as saying he would. So that's my answer.

And you believe everything a footballer says when interviewed?

He said he was very close to his family.

Is very loyal.

But would have a crack if drafted interstate.

 

[SumaGodCoach]

And you believe everything a footballer says when interviewed?

He said he was very close to his family.

Is very loyal.

But would have a crack if drafted interstate.

Which is a very well coached politically correct way of saying that he doesn't want to leave, so that he doesn't get accused of draft tampering.

 

[Obeanie1]

I’m interested in who the top draft prospects are and how they’re performing. Getting access to some top talent is one of few silver linings of this s**t truck of a season

Hypotheticals around splitting pick 1 I’m less interested in at this stage mainly because it’ll be an ongoing circular discussion for 6 months

Others will disagree and carry on discussing it as is their prerogative. I’m not going to stop it

I started a thread in the Draft board.

2023 Trading pick 1 - What would it take?

Can always redirect that discussion there.

 

[Avalor]

Playing colts. Versus Harley Reid who got BOG playing VFL seniors for Carlton.

Yep, after watching Curtin play midfield on Saturday, he is my clear preference after Reid if we have pick 2 or 3 and not 1.

 

[TerryFilk]

Taller than Caleb Daniel. He's also only 2cm shorter than Masten.

Isn’t Daniel 171CM, thought Watson was 170CM?

 

[bzparkes]

Isn’t Daniel 171CM, thought Watson was 170CM?

Caleb's 1.68cm.

 

[ziad]

And you believe everything a footballer says when interviewed?

He said he was very close to his family.

Is very loyal.

But would have a crack if drafted interstate.

Who wants disloyal lads who don't like their family? Large chips on a few shoulders-prejudices weaken us.

 

[Keys]

Well it’s very cloudy at the moment

 

[Art OF war]

Reid was pretty good for Carlton’s vfl team

Yeah not bad - He had a couple of mongrels off the boot (possibly weather?) and a centering kick deep inside D50 that was the wrong decision or execution as I could't see who he was looking at. But promising for your first VFL game. Thanks for the highlights

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

He's been injured.

Thought he came back into VFL side, did he get injured again?

 

[bzparkes]

Thought he came back into VFL side, did he get injured again?

Got injured last weekend, I believe.

 

[CountryLad]

Well there is zero conclusive evidence put up by anyone that Sheezel actually was refusing to leave Vic. In fact its the opposite. Hes been quoted as saying he would. So that's my answer.

Seeing you refuse to listen to the trade radio interview. Jason McCarntney GWS football manager quoted as

“ I completely understand why West Coast go from 2 and move out to the mid part of the 1st round. It’s exactly the same reason why we want to get from 3 and get to one. Because when your an interstate club and the draft board is predominantly littered with Victorian talent, you’ve got some risk there.”

“You might think it’s fine and you just pick this player and get them into your environmen/system and you think it’s all fine, but if there’s apprehension from a player right from the word go about making the move interstate and they may go home, you just can’t take the risk unfortunately.”

Then asked by Twomey are you drafting from a different draft pool?

“ yeah the draft pool for us and other interstate clubs isn’t the same draft pool, and that’s okay that’s the reality we are not complaining about it, but we do have to look at things a little differently.
Everyone can throw up the players and we love all the players that are being talked about, but some we can’t pick that’s the reality.”

“ you have some guys that are really quite bullish about moving interstate and you’ve got some that rightfully and probably more comfortable to stay at home. It is a different draft pool that some of us look at compared to the Victorian teams”

End quotes

Now if that doesn’t answer your question then I’m sorry.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Miguel Sanchez is Koen really a relative? Or was that just posters putting the names together?

Apart from his injury, he looks like he has put together some great numbers in the colts. He was very impressive with his small forward craft in the last champs game last year.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Miguel Sanchez is Koen really a relative? Or was that just posters putting the names together?

Apart from his injury, he looks like he has put together some great numbers in the colts. He was very impressive with his small forward craft in the last champs game last year.

Well my name isn’t actually Miguel Sanchez, it’s an obscure line from a Simpsons episode, so…

 

[Doashuey]

Well my name isn’t actually Miguel Sanchez, it’s an obscure line from a Simpsons episode, so…

Prove it