List Mgmt. Contract, Trade & Draftee Discussion, 2023: Picks 1,20,34,39,53 ,58

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2024 List Changes : Out: Retired- Gaff Delisted - Jones, Trew(R), Baker(R), Witherden, Burgiel, Culley(R), Rotham, L Edwards Traded - Darling (NM) Barrass (Hawthorn) In: Trade/FA acquisitions - Graham (Richmond) Baker (Richmond) Owies (Carlton) Draft - Allan (Pick 16) Shanahan (Pick 30) Gross...

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[Eastcoasteagle]

Well my name isn’t actually Miguel Sanchez, it’s an obscure line from a Simpsons episode, so…

So he's your dad?

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Prove it

 

[THE A5]

Dunno what his first name is but pretty sure mig’s last name is Orme

 

[Dark Sharks]

Reid wasn’t even close to BOG.

Nope, Dev was.. 31D, 6T

Good pickup for our 5th rounder.

 

[Obeanie1]

Nope, Dev was.. 31D, 6T

Good pickup for our 5th rounder.

So better than Narkle and Anderson then.

Cool.

But are you comfortable with spending that draft capital?

And will Dev ever win a B&F?

A 5th rounder.......geez can we really afford to ignore a kid and use this pick on a role player?

 

[dinnaz]

Nope, Dev was.. 31D, 6T

Good pickup for our 5th rounder.

Bring him home

 

[mattyc75]

So better than Narkle and Anderson then.

Cool.

But are you comfortable with spending that draft capital?

And will Dev ever win a B&F?

A 5th rounder.......geez can we really afford to ignore a kid and use this pick on a role player?

Has narkle ever gotten 31 disposals? Legit question?
Devs a fair bit younger too and with culley out for a while having dev round 1 next season would be nice
I definitely wouldnt be overpaying for dev but with recent events and the likely retirements/delistings devs a bigger need than narkle
I admire your single mindedness tho.

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[Obeanie1]

Has narkle ever gotten 31 disposals? Legit question?
Devs a fair bit younger too and with culley out for a while having dev round 1 next season would be nice
I definitely wouldnt be overpaying for dev but with recent events and the likely retirements/delistings devs a bigger need than narkle
I admire your single mindedness tho.

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He has. And at AFL level.

Single mindedness?

I see it more of keeping the debate honest and we apply consistent assumptions / kpi's when comparing potential players to bring in. Or in discussions about who is better than who.

Both Narkle and Dev would improve on two of our bottom 6 to 8 players who have had a fair number of opportunities to secure their place on the list. Plus we have the older guys retiring.

 

[Chris_6678]

Being out of contract Dev wont cost much. He is worth a shot to add a player who has been in the system for 5 years and is at a good age to build around the young mids.

Narkle a hard no.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

I'd rather keep Winder on the list and try to get his body right than bring on Narkle.



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[Eastcoasteagle]

Bring him home

 

[bzparkes]

Worst use of a gif ever because it means he certainly ain't coming home..

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Worst use of a gif ever because it means he certainly ain't coming home..

Good point, it's a bit like Flagmantle. We all know it will never happen, but it doesn't stop them doing it.

 

[Chump Change]

Got injured last weekend, I believe.

Tore his morabito muscle I believe.

 

[briztoon]

Then why the animosity of course Hawks West Coast and north people are interested in the pick one situation

Wasn’t animosity. I was pointing out you don’t really pay attention to other clubs, after you mentioned you haven’t seen an injury list like West Coast are currently experiencing, before.

 

[briztoon]

Yeah not bad - He had a couple of mongrels off the boot (possibly weather?) and a centering kick deep inside D50 that was the wrong decision or execution as I could't see who he was looking at. But promising for your first VFL game. Thanks for the highlights

Second.

 

[Ishmael_]

Dev doesn't need to be anything other than a reasonable best 22 player to be worth a cheap acquisition.

SPS, a pick 6, was at Carlton for 6 years, played nearly 100 games and was traded for pick 52.

Dev hasn't been played, looks surplus to Brisbane's needs and was taken with a high second-rounder.

He should come very cheap. Seems like a good acquisition for a team with little depth that just needs best 22 bodies.

 

[wceratta]

Playing colts. Versus Harley Reid who got BOG playing VFL seniors for Carlton.

Definitely not BOG, not even in the best players list at all but that’s fine he’s first couple of games against men

 

[WCE_4_EVER]

Imma be so pissed if Hawthorn actually get Harley

 

[dinnaz]

There's 2 thoughts about the MSD.

• If we can improve the bottom few on our list then its a win, even with a Narkle etc to plug gaps for a couple of seasons. Jamaine Jones
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• We are shit so may as well take a few swings at some 2004 born draftees and end up with a 10 year player or at least some options to push for selection for a few seasons.

Play our injured blokes for a month at the end of the season???????????????????????

 

[Schtinker]

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So your real name is Lionel Hutz?

 

[Dark Sharks]

Reid wasn't BOG everyone.

Heard it here first.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

So Culley out means the club have a possible 3 positions they can open up in the next couple of weeks - Culley, Cripps and Winder.

Cole and Ryan are options but I feel Cole needs to get some footy in at the back of the season if possible. At least WAFL if he can as he showed signs of hesitation and rustiness with 2022 being all in rehab. Ryan - similar in that he needs to get some confidence and he will do more of that if playing.

I know there are some that still have faith in Winder. I am not with them as the likelihood of success feels remote. I would love to be proven wrong.



5 games to go before the bye. It feel like we might get more kids to choose from in the next 3 weeks but little top line established players returning. I can see us getting to round 15 with a 13-1 record.

Given we have the game in Launceston, I hope we take precaution so that we rest Oscar with his knee, possibly give Kelly the week off for general soreness, rest Jack with his sore back. In other words, show Hawthorn "Anything you can do we can do better".

After the Hawks, our 13 remaining fixtures are Sydney at SCG (ouch), 9 games against current top 10 clubs, a derby and Norf at home. We should have some players back but it still feels like it may just be 1 more win (Norf).


New forward line of Jamieson at FF and Waterman at CHF.

 

[WCErevival]

So Culley out means the club have a possible 3 positions they can open up in the next couple of weeks - Culley, Cripps and Winder.

Cole and Ryan are options but I feel Cole needs to get some footy in at the back of the season if possible. At least WAFL if he can as he showed signs of hesitation and rustiness with 2022 being all in rehab. Ryan - similar in that he needs to get some confidence and he will do more of that if playing.

I know there are some that still have faith in Winder. I am not with them as the likelihood of success feels remote. I would love to be proven wrong.


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5 games to go before the bye. It feel like we might get more kids to choose from in the next 3 weeks but little top line established players returning. I can see us getting to round 15 with a 13-1 record.

Given we have the game in Launceston, I hope we take precaution so that we rest Oscar with his knee, possibly give Kelly the week off for general soreness, rest Jack with his sore back. In other words, show Hawthorn "Anything you can do we can do better".

After the Hawks, our 13 remaining fixtures are Sydney at SCG (ouch), 9 games against current top 10 clubs, a derby and Norf at home. We should have some players back but it still feels like it may just be 1 more win (Norf).


New forward line of Jamieson at FF and Waterman at CHF.

What is Winders deal? Haven't heard much about him.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Meanwhile I look at Port and their draft rebuild of 2018/19 with Rozee, Butters, Duursma, Georgiades, Mead and Bergman all coming through in a 2 year block.

I am hoping that is what we will see with Chesser, Hough, Bazzo, Ginbey, Hewett, Barnett, Burgiel, Long and the 2023 cohort.

If we can emerge out of this year's draft with another 4 very good prospects, then we are a long way in the rebuild.