List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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SSP signing dates

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• Monday, November 25, 2024 – Thursday, December 19, 2024
• Monday, January 13, 2025 – Friday, February 21, 2025

Players out of Contract (16) - 2025

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• Tim Kelly (26/7/94) - Signed a 6 year contract (2020-25) in October 2019
• Dom Sheed (10/4/95) - Signed a 4 year extension (2022-25) in April 2021*
• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jeremy McGovern (15/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Jack Hutchinson (10/11/01) - Automatic 18 month contract (2024-25) when drafted in May 2024
• (R) Tyrell Dewar (27/3/04) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in June 2024
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

 

[Broken_Chairs]

How much is discussion around next years strategy factoring in a Warner move?

I would hope the answer is near zero - don't see the value in setting plans/strategy around a hypothetical move for one player in more than 12 months. 12 months is a LONG time.

Obviously he's a target and we have been able to accrue several early picks next year to secure a big fish if available, such as Warner. But I doubt our strategy revolves around him specifically.

 

[random260]

Can't wait for Dyson Sharp train to begin. Matt Rowell clone

 

[Coasters7]

Port would have taken Shanahan had Berry not been available. Freo also wanted a future second back. Also didn't trust Freo even if they relented on the F2 that they wouldn't take Allan.

Also I think people are pretty happy with Grego now?

All in all outside of Saints jumping for Boxshall the draft couldn't have gone better from a club perspective.

Was Grego or Davis the final pick if we’d taken Boxshall?

 

[Cornelius Roy]

Port would have taken Shanahan had Berry not been available. Freo also wanted a future second back. Also didn't trust Freo even if they relented on the F2 that they wouldn't take Allan.

Also I think people are pretty happy with Grego now?

All in all outside of Saints jumping for Boxshall the draft couldn't have gone better from a club perspective.

The problem is you’ve done such a good job this year the club is likely to want to same team in place for next years draft…

 

[Jukes]

Falling asleep watching current gettable episode,
I think Freo offered to swap 17+30 for 15 but we went with ports 16+45 to avoid Freo possibly grabbing Allan (even though they wanted Reid)

I reckon they wanted to get Berry and all the intel pre draft suggested as much. They would have also known that Port and us were into him.

My guess is that they’ve told/leaked it to Twomey AFTER the fact that they wanted Reid all along. No benefit when it’s all said and done to make Reid feel like a consolation prize.

 

[sharps24]

Trouble is, i think we finish above North again. I don't see the improvement in them that obviously think they will have. If that's the case Tigers will take both.

If we do finish second last, might be able to have some real interesting discussions with Adelaide (if they finish 3rd/4th last) about what they'd give us for pick 2 (and allow us to still get Rodriguez).

Picking up a future 2026 First might be helpful for any Warner deal.

Yeah Richmond get pick 1 and 2 for mine. Considering the price it ended up selling for maybe we can have a bit of Baker cost us pick 2 banter next November.

 

[ROYAL EAGLE]

Freddy movements and reading of the play actually reminds me a lot of Don Pyke.

His dual sidedness is so very impressive.

At this early stage and this far out from the next draft ( ), Freddy is my number 1 want for our First Round pick.

Yep that dual sided nature like Shuey, with his explosive first 5 metres and the ability to bring other players into the game with handball
He is also very hard at it
Already has a mature body
He is a creator a little like Daniel Kerr would bring others into the game

 

[EagleEgo]

“Top of our priority”: Incoming Swans coach Cox confident of keeping Warner

The WA clubs will come knocking.

www.sen.com.au

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

For those over East who think we will trade back to get WA talent, here are some stats from our list

Total current list size = 43 with an SSP to be added in the new year

WA - 23 (53%)
Vic - 15 (35%)
SA - 3 (7%)
NSW - 2 (5%)

Of the Vic players, I have excluded Shanahan as he made it clear that although he played for Pioneers, he was from NSW. There Vic players are in 3 categories - Country = 8, Metro = 4 and other = 3 (Hunt, Owies and Hutchinson). Note that I have adjusted the Metro and Country to put them where they lived and grew up not where the played for in U18 when they were boarding.

Of the WA teams providing us the prospects, Claremont continue to be favourites with 4 players, Swans back in favour with 4 and Subiaco now better in their development with 4. Peel surprising us all with 3, odd since it is literally under the noses of the Purples. The unusual thing is the absence of East Fremantle who have been a traditionally strong recruitment club for us. Maybe Chad and Cory will change that next year!!!

 

[06Premiers]

Duursma has more upside. If he can bring his outside mid numbers into the middle next year it would likely drop Sharp to 2.

We need to recruit Duursma to help keep his future brother-in-law happy.

 

[JackOutback]

For those over East who think we will trade back to get WA talent, here are some stats from our list

Total current list size = 43 with an SSP to be added in the new year

WA - 23 (53%)
Vic - 15 (35%)
SA - 3 (7%)
NSW - 2 (5%)

Of the Vic players, I have excluded Shanahan as he made it clear that although he played for Pioneers, he was from NSW. There Vic players are in 3 categories - Country = 8, Metro = 4 and other = 3 (Hunt, Owies and Hutchinson). Note that I have adjusted the Metro and Country to put them where they lived and grew up not where the played for in U18 when they were boarding.

Of the WA teams providing us the prospects, Claremont continue to be favourites with 4 players, Swans back in favour with 4 and Subiaco now better in their development with 4. Peel surprising us all with 3, odd since it is literally under the noses of the Purples. The unusual think is the absence of East Fremantle who have been a traditionally strong recruitment club for us. Maybe Chad and Cory will change that next year!!!

That certainly does indicate a preference for WA talent overall given the number of draftees from WA each year is significantly below 50 per cent. But I think our preference comes later in the draft where local knowledge can offer an advantage, whereas we are happy to go best overall early.

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

If Warner becomes available next year, what are we comfortable giving up?

Is there any scenario where we can bring Warner in and retain our F1?

 

[braddalzielleoursaviour]

I’d be open to trading 25 and 26 F1s especially if Oscar doesn’t compromise on wanting a 7 year deal. He can gtfo for band 1 compo and then we could bring in Chad and 3 1sts next year, meaning we would have more than enough young talent on the list + tassie factor.

 

[stallon]

If Warner becomes available next year, what are we comfortable giving up?

Is there any scenario where we can bring Warner in and retain our F1?

Not 2 top 5 picks.
Not our 2025 1st pick.
Hawks f1+ our 2026 1st pick probably

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

If Warner becomes available next year, what are we comfortable giving up?

Is there any scenario where we can bring Warner in and retain our F1?

It depends how bad Hawks go. If that pick is top 10, it's possible. It also depends what Freo can offer. That little Karen campaigner Bell is relentless with his small man syndrome. It would be handy if they just didn't have anything to offer. If they finish top 4 (I think they'll give the flag a shake), no amount of F1 is going to work. It's unlikely they're going to trade out a player for a top pick either.

If Warner is OOC and tells the club he's leaving, wants to go to Eagles, Hawks pick is top 10, and Freo just don't have the ability to get in the game, it's defo possible. Then we have to deal with that spadger Clarke. He'll probably be on Bell's side.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

I love Freddie and his skills but if he was available it'd still be very hard to pass on Sharp. I think he'd be a bit disappointed in his futures game however he is just an absolute contested beast. On top of that he is very, very good overhead. Makes tagging him out of games much more difficult and he has a very good defensive side to his game as well.

The club going forward definitely needs some more class on the outside though.

Played seniors this year too as an underager.

 

[EaglesVille]

It depends how bad Hawks go. If that pick is top 10, it's possible. It also depends what Freo can offer. That little Karen campaigner Bell is relentless with his small man syndrome. It would be handy if they just didn't have anything to offer. If they finish top 4 (I think they'll give the flag a shake), no amount of F1 is going to work. It's unlikely they're going to trade out a player for a top pick either.

If Warner is OOC and tells the club he's leaving, wants to go to Eagles, Hawks pick is top 10, and Freo just don't have the ability to get in the game, it's defo possible. Then we have to deal with that spadger Clarke. He'll probably be on Bell's side.

Bell ended at freo

 

[eaglevision]

Now that I’ve had a chance to have a good look at the list profile post draft, I’m leaning towards taking Warner over a top 3 pick. The main reason being we’ve just drafted three 18 year olds we want to play midfield in the medium term. Assuming same finishing positions, potential Warner trades I see are:

3 and F1 for Warner x 2 and 17

OR

13, 21 and F1 for Warner x 2 and F1 (SYD)

 

[Truly Lazuli]

Bell ended at freo

Could be the description of a whole range of people at the purples

 

[stallon]

Now that I’ve had a chance to have a good look at the list profile post draft, I’m leaning towards taking Warner over a top 3 pick. The main reason being we’ve just drafted three 18 year olds we want to play midfield in the medium term. Assuming same finishing positions, potential Warner trades I see are:

3 and F1 for Warner x 2 and 17

OR

13, 21 and F1 for Warner x 2 and F1 (SYD)

by f1 you mean the 2026 picks right?

 

[eaglevision]

by f1 you mean the 2026 picks right?

Yep . 1R is 2025 now, future picks are 2026 (and now also 2027).

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Now that I’ve had a chance to have a good look at the list profile post draft, I’m leaning towards taking Warner over a top 3 pick. The main reason being we’ve just drafted three 18 year olds we want to play midfield in the medium term. Assuming same finishing positions, potential Warner trades I see are:

3 and F1 for Warner x 2 and 17

OR

13, 21 and F1 for Warner x 2 and F1 (SYD)

Why do we want both Warner's? Do you think he's going to come to us and then be a flight risk?

 

[eaglevision]

Why do we want both Warner's? Do you think he's going to come to us and then be a flight risk?

I think one Warner will insist on the other Warner.

 

[Corkintheocean]

I would hope the answer is near zero - don't see the value in setting plans/strategy around a hypothetical move for one player in more than 12 months. 12 months is a LONG time.

Obviously he's a target and we have been able to accrue several early picks next year to secure a big fish if available, such as Warner. But I doubt our strategy revolves around him specifically.

If we moved heaven and earth and didn't budget on our pursuit of Baker despite likely overpaying, then we can probably assume it's the same strategy for Warner, considering he's different gravy.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

I think one Warner will insist on the other Warner.

Cool, so he's steak knives. Why would you be giving up our next two round 1 picks?