List Mgmt. Contracts, trades, draft - 2021 offseason edition

[Keys]

So the 2021 season is officially done and dusted.

It’s time now to fully turn our attention to the off season and what we can do through the trade period/draft to chase down Melbourne in 2022.

List and personnel changes have already been made and I’ll update this OP as and when any further changes are made.

As it stands these are our official list changes :

Out -
• Venables (R) - retired
• Vardy - retired
• Hutchings (R) - delisted
• Ah Chee (R) - delisted
• Ainsworth - delisted
• Johnson - delisted
• Collins (R) - delisted
• Brander - cluster****
• Cameron - retired/delisted not that it was officially acknowledged by the club
• Sheppard - retired

Inactive listed -
• Cole
• Chesser

In -
• Petrevski-Seton - traded for pick 52
• Chesser - Pick 14
• Hough - Pick 31
• Bazzo - Pick 37
• Williams (Jack) - Pick 57
• Clark - Pick 62
• Dixon - SSP
• Joyce - SSP
• Strnadica - SSP
• Naish - SSP

Players on main list - 37 (Including 2 inactive)
Players on rookie list - 7

Future trade picks :
In - Port Adelaide future 2nd
Out - Future 4th

Assistant Coaches :
• Out - Graham, Hickmott
• In - Schofield (Strategy and Stoppage), Knights (Midfield), Wiley (WAFL coach), Brennan (development)

Link to contract status of all players -

The Contracts Thread

2024 List Changes : Out: Retired- Gaff Delisted - Jones, Trew(R), Baker(R), Witherden, Burgiel, Culley(R) Traded - Darling (NM) Barrass (Hawthorn) In: Trade/FA acquisitions - Graham (Richmond) Baker (Richmond) Owies (Carlton) Current contract status (Updated 18/10/24) : Total 39 Players -...

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[squashface]

Would lol if we had a Mayne/Mundy trade scenario with Brander/Rotham and someone pays more than they should for Brander. Not that the twins' trade value would be much different, but still.

Was it ever confirmed that Collingwood thought they were getting Mundy but got Mayne, or is that an urban trade week legend?

There were rumours (memes) swirling on BF that they thought they were getting Mundy and then Buckley said this:

“There were a few things mixed up with that,” Buckley told SEN Breakfast.

“Our director of football was flipping around and there were a few things that happened there that weren’t ideal.

So it's possible

 

[WCE_Talk]

We only have one key forward on two legs so lets get rid of him. Brilliant. BF, where geniuses are grown.

If we had 3 and 10, we’d take Amiss or JVR at 10, we’re about to fall off a cliff, getting immense value for 1-2 senior players could drastically speed up our rebuild.


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[The wily weagle]

to throw a hail mary, do we take Mac Andrew to learn under nic nat now. Might be great for our next run and re build

I personally would be very, very happy if this came to fruition. If Andrews is still available at pick 10 we would do well to take him

 

[Mulldogg]

No Sweet deal for West Coast.

 

[Chris_6678]

Sweet staying at the WB's

 

[archiemoses]

“So you’re saying you don’t expect me to taste any more success here? Well that’s a concern”.

The Bulldogs are also being remarkably generous for a side that already has Aaron Naughton and Jamarra Ugle Hagan, throwing huge money at a 30 year old contracted key forward like that.

Well Jack we have an aging list, so our chances are much leaner.

The bulldogs don't see it as generous, they want you and they're serious! They've created some cap space with their delistings and most of that is going your way. They are losing Tim English as well.

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[archiemoses]

Sweet would have been sweet

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[archiemoses]

We only have one key forward on two legs so lets get rid of him. Brilliant. BF, where geniuses are grown.

Time to build around Allen. Give Brander a season as a KPF

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[Happy Mastenator]

Trade Gov to Sydney, accept less compensation to offload salary.

Trade Gaff to Melbourne, Gus Brayshaw to Freo and picks to us.

Trade Darling to bulldogs for picks or Tim English. Darling a perfect fit at the dogs.

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As long as we’re doing fantasy trades how about:

Gov for Logan mcdonald and gulden
Gaff for Petracca
Darling for bontempelli

feel that’s reasonable

 

[THE A5]

Also not a kid. He’s 25 next season.

He’s just another child thats grown old

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Well Jack we have an aging list, so our chances are much leaner.

The bulldogs don't see it as generous, they want you and they're serious! They've created some cap space with their delistings and most of that is going your way. They are losing Tim English as well.

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I haven’t seen anything anywhere suggesting the Bulldogs are hunting for a 30 year old key forward this year, and I don’t know why they would. They’re more stocked for key forwards now than they have been at any point since Chris Grant retired.

 

[Gwaihir]

I’d do it for Logan McDonald and their third!
draft a project KPD with their third.
rookie the best state league KPD as a stop gap option.
Edwards and Gov can cover the loss of Barrass, tell brander he has a spot in the team as a third tall defender.

I think he projects as a rebounding third tall (in a new game plan), showed dash and endurance as an overlap in WAFL games. I hope he stays but I think he will find somewhere by the end of the trade fortnight.

 

[archiemoses]

As long as we’re doing fantasy trades how about:

Gov for Logan mcdonald and gulden
Gaff for Petracca
Darling for bontempelli

feel that’s reasonable

At least I proposed reasonable outcomes.

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[archiemoses]

I haven’t seen anything anywhere suggesting the Bulldogs are hunting for a 30 year old key forward this year, and I don’t know why they would. They’re more stocked for key forwards now than they have been at any point since Chris Grant retired.

So stacked that Josh Schache is their #2 option.

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[Miguel Sanchez]

So stacked that Josh Schache is their #2 option.

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They drafted a key forward with pick 1 last year.

 

[archiemoses]

They drafted a key forward with pick 1 last year.

Nothing to suggest he will be ready this year. They are in win now flag mode, Jamara is raw, Bruce is injured and Schache is shit. Darling is an excellent for their transition.

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[Tugga27]

At least I proposed reasonable outcomes.

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Not really.

 

[Tugga27]

Nothing to suggest he will be ready this year. They are in win now flag mode, Jamara is raw, Bruce is injured and Schache is sh*t. Darling is an excellent for their transition.

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I imagine English will be playing more time up forward with Stefan Martin fit as well

 

[Happy Mastenator]

At least I proposed reasonable outcomes.

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No you didn’t. McGovern and darling are not going anywhere. They will be west coast lifers. You can’t trade someone without their consent.

gaff could theoretically be traded to a Melbourne club, but I seriously doubt Melbourne of all clubs has space for his salary.

 

[ziad]

Time to build around Allen. Give Brander a season as a KPF

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dumb and dumber! Allen is a reasonable prospect.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

gaff could theoretically be traded to a Melbourne club, but I seriously doubt Melbourne of all clubs has space for his salary.

…theoretically being traded in a three way deal for Angus Brayshaw, because he obviously would want to leave Melbourne immediately after winning a premiership and join Freo on the other side of the country, just because his brother is there.

Another completely reasonable trade suggestion.

 

[archiemoses]

No you didn’t. McGovern and darling are not going anywhere. They will be west coast lifers. You can’t trade someone without their consent.

gaff could theoretically be traded to a Melbourne club, but I seriously doubt Melbourne of all clubs has space for his salary.

You're missing the point, maybe they are lifers, maybe they're not? Have you asked them?

Circumstances change. If you want tangible change at West Coast, that line of thinking won't deliver it.

Time for list management to be creative and aggressive.

If they don't want to be fine, bu we have to accept the status quo.

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[Miguel Sanchez]

No Sweet deal for West Coast.

Matt Flynn also off the market.

Luke Strnadica, come on down.

 

[archiemoses]

…theoretically being traded in a three way deal for Angus Brayshaw, because he obviously would want to leave Melbourne immediately after winning a premiership and join Freo on the other side of the country, just because his brother is there.

Another completely reasonable trade suggestion.

Well Gaff would take his spot, so it's completely logical in that scenario.

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[Miguel Sanchez]

Well Gaff would take his spot, so it's completely logical in that scenario.

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The (most) illogical part was Brayshaw wanting to move. I thought my post made that pretty clear.