List Mgmt. Contracts, trades, draft - 2022 superstar edition

[Keys]

Link to contract status of all players -

The Contracts Thread

2024 List Changes : Out: Retired- Gaff Delisted - Jones, Trew(R), Baker(R), Witherden, Burgiel, Culley(R), Rotham, L Edwards Traded - Darling (NM) Barrass (Hawthorn) In: Trade/FA acquisitions - Graham (Richmond) Baker (Richmond) Owies (Carlton) Draft - Allan (Pick 16) Shanahan (Pick 30) Gross...

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[Chad in Vegas]

*wrapped

*Devon Wrappertson

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

I really hope Bailey and Jamieson show that they can handle the ruck post-Nic Nat, so that we don't have to use a good pick (our first and second rounders) on a ruckman in the draft.

 

[Truckosaurus]

I think Jamieson has shown significant improvement since actually being played as a ruck (from memory, he's been used mainly as either a forward or defender in the WAFL since being drafted). Given he's still got scope for physical development, I think the club would be pleased with how he's gone.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

I think Jamieson has shown significant improvement since actually being played as a ruck (from memory, he's been used mainly as either a forward or defender in the WAFL since being drafted). Given he's still got scope for physical development, I think the club would be pleased with how he's gone.

Agreed. I didn't judge him for his performance vs Norf as full back, but he's been encouraging as a ruckman.

Rather ropable he hasn't played there at WAFL level considering it's why we drafted him.

 

[Bacchus]

really? looks like a big doofus to me lol. Bambi, if you will

I think Jamieson has shown significant improvement since actually being played as a ruck (from memory, he's been used mainly as either a forward or defender in the WAFL since being drafted). Given he's still got scope for physical development, I think the club would be pleased with how he's gone.

We need Broadbent but not with pick #1 or #2 (hopefully Wardlaw)

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Definitely want best available midfielder (ideally inside) with our first pick, second pick will be ~19-21 and I'm a bit more open to best available regardless of position given the holes in the list. Same with Port's pick, best available, whether it's used in the draft or as part of a trade I don't mind.

Being able to grab a tall inside mid who kicks goals for free is something we really need to take advantage of.

 

[FKASC]

*Wrapped Devon

 

[amazingjoshy]

Feel a bit bad for Florenca. At 25 he doesn't have too many more chances to get on an AFL list, sounds like he's been playing his best footy and even impressed in his one chance at the highest level. He couldn't have done more at this point in his career.

That said, imagine if we picked him up and he instantly came in and improved our midfield - of course he's no A-grader, but say he helped us get over the line in an extra game or two and we dropped a few spots in the ND at the end of the year. There'd be more than a few people upset that we picked a mature age role player and then cost our first chance at a genuinely top end pick in over a decade.

On the contrary, if he's good enough to single-handedly win us games and lift us up the ladder then we probably should've drafted him

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Agreed. I didn't judge him for his performance vs Norf as full back, but he's been encouraging as a ruckman.

Rather ropable he hasn't played there at WAFL level considering it's why we drafted him.

Jamo has played plenty of ruck at wafl level.
Most who have watched the beagles would have seen that jamo often looks better as a tap ruck than Williams.

Development as a defender and forward would be part of ruck development. Good rucks drift forward and kick goals and be able to defend their opposition ruck when they drift forward .

Having stints forward and back would fast track this side of the game .

Jamo is still 21 and Williams just turned 22 . Rucks don't normally peak until 25+

Look at lycett he didn't start impacting until he was close to free agency

 

[Flarn Rarn]

On the contrary, if he's good enough to single-handedly win us games and lift us up the ladder then we probably should've drafted him

Being the difference between winning or losing a couple of close games and single handledly winning are not the same thing.

Mind you we'd have to actually have a few close games for that to happen...

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Jamo has played plenty of ruck at wafl level.
Most who have watched the beagles would have seen that jamo often looks better as a tap ruck than Williams.

Development as a defender and forward would be part of ruck development. Good rucks drift forward and kick goals and be able to defend their opposition ruck when they drift forward .

Having stints forward and back would fast track this side of the game .

Jamo is still 21 and Williams just turned 22 . Rucks don't normally peak until 25+

Look at lycett he didn't start impacting until he was close to free agency

Would have had a smoother transition post-Naitanui if Lycett or Hickey had stayed given the ages of the players involved, but it is what it is.

 

[KERRPOW]

Funny that only now there is this narrative being pushed that the intention of mid season draft was to find a plug and play second league player to fill gaps in the list thru injury...not a pre dip at selecting future youth.

 

[Bender_]

Funny that only now there is this narrative being pushed that the intention of mid season draft was to find a plug and play second league player to fill gaps in the list thru injury...not a pre dip at selecting future youth.

LOL- I'm guessing Whately is saying this.

We should be ashamed of ourselves.

 

[eagles rule]

I think Jamieson has shown significant improvement since actually being played as a ruck (from memory, he's been used mainly as either a forward or defender in the WAFL since being drafted). Given he's still got scope for physical development, I think the club would be pleased with how he's gone.

He’s young and inexperienced so he will have some poor games , I’m happy with how he is progressing..


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[eagles rule]

Funny that only now there is this narrative being pushed that the intention of mid season draft was to find a plug and play second league player to fill gaps in the list thru injury...not a pre dip at selecting future youth.

What’s funny is that all the clubs wanted to pick him up , did they mention that ?


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[Chump Change]

LOL- I'm guessing Whately is saying this.

We should be ashamed of ourselves.

Yes, we should admit our sins, hand him back, and take Florenca. Lol.

 

[ArdentEagle]

I think Jamieson has shown significant improvement since actually being played as a ruck (from memory, he's been used mainly as either a forward or defender in the WAFL since being drafted). Given he's still got scope for physical development, I think the club would be pleased with how he's gone.

100% agree. He has Luke Jackson like qualities

 

[WCE_phil]

The real issue is Jamieson is still realistically 3 preseasons away from being a genuine AFL ruck and is only 200cm which is getting on the very short side for rucks. Will the club persist for that long. He is genuinely a very good tap ruck, good at ground level and around the ground.

 

[Chad in Vegas]

Yes, we should admit our sins, hand him back, and take Florenca. Lol.

JC died for our wins?

 

[amazingjoshy]

Funny that only now there is this narrative being pushed that the intention of mid season draft was to find a plug and play second league player to fill gaps in the list thru injury...not a pre dip at selecting future youth.

Whose narrative?

 

[KERRPOW]

Whose narrative?

Random pockets of the media, talkback callers

 

[Truckosaurus]

That was absolutely the intention of the midseason draft when it was introduced, but as with the medical sub rule, clubs will exploit any opportunity to get ahead.

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Would have had a smoother transition post-Naitanui if Lycett or Hickey had stayed given the ages of the players involved, but it is what it is.

Lycett got offered ridiculous overs in salary and years . We couldn't match that.

Hickey wasn't getting a game and he deserved a chance somewhere else .

Better to rip the bandaid off quickly. Use this year to pump games into the young rucks and pick up high end talent in the draft

 

[Keys]

That was absolutely the intention of the midseason draft when it was introduced, but as with the medical sub rule, clubs will exploit any opportunity to get ahead.

Completely inconceivable that AFL clubs would manipulate a rule to suit their best interests rather than use it for the purpose the AFL intended

 

[JackieMoon33]

On the contrary, if he's good enough to single-handedly win us games and lift us up the ladder then we probably should've drafted him

Maybe WC was concerned that injecting too much talent now, could have a negative impact on our tanking plans for the back end of 2022?