List Mgmt. Contracts, trades, draft - 2022 superstar edition

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The Contracts Thread

2024 List Changes : Out: Retired- Gaff Delisted - Jones, Trew(R), Baker(R), Witherden, Burgiel, Culley(R), Rotham, L Edwards Traded - Darling (NM) Barrass (Hawthorn) In: Trade/FA acquisitions - Graham (Richmond) Baker (Richmond) Owies (Carlton) Draft - Allan (Pick 16) Shanahan (Pick 30) Gross...

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[dinnaz]

Petracca and McCartin were considered the two elite talents in 2014.

Pettracca > McCartin tho so the saints should have taken him but took a needs approach with the tall.

 

[tigger_ferret]

When the top midfielders in the year are Paddy Dow, Luke Davies-Uniacke, Adam Cerra (injury plagued) and Cam Raynor having to spend a top 2 pick on a midfielder isn't value at all.

So who should have realistically been the top pick that year??

 

[dinnaz]

The data is clear. I showed you. If you want to interpret it in some other way, go for your life.

But i love the analysis it shows that smalls are better footballers in the long run

 

[Bender_]

TK worked out but not many if not any mature age pick goes around pick 13. Think the plan was to pick to get TK at either where ALLen went but club never expected Allen to slide that low and ended up jumping on him.

That draft is funny cause at first I was so filthy with that draft haul and then 1-2 years later started to rate it but now it's quite poo minus the obvious two picks.

I think it's poor to judge draft hauls before a subsequent premiership. Especially when we get Ryan and Allen in said draft. Most clubs would dream of getting 2 players of that calibre in a single draft.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Re-signed yesterday for 2 more years.

Darn.

 

[DanWCE]

My cousin has a Doctorate in stats. Could you imagine anything worse?

 

[Godfather32]

My cousin has a Doctorate in stats. Could you imagine anything worse?

Is your cousin a giant douche?

 

[DanWCE]

Is your cousin a giant douche?

Very nice guy, not great with the small chat.

 

[Godfather32]

Very nice guy, not great with the small chat.

Then statistically it's not the stats that does it

 

[Schtinker]

Did the Saints play McCartin in the wrong position? Seems to be doing alright at the Swans as a KPD.

 

[Doashuey]

My cousin has a Doctorate in stats. Could you imagine anything worse?

Good for him. But I ask you this... Can he analyse shit? Apparently that's where the real genius is

 

[Bender_]

Very nice guy, not great with the small chat.

Worth taking to Vegas if he can hold back from hitting himself in the head when he gets upset.

 

[DanWCE]

Good for him. But I ask you this... Can he analyse shit? Apparently that's where the real genius is.

It's the unwavering surface level analysis for mine. Which can only be interpreted one correct way.

 

[Chump Change]

I was just curious. My wife teachers quantitative and qualitative research methodology.

I just wondered if you looked beyond the bare stats, and removed players who lost their career due to injury (e.g. Paddy McCartin) from the data set.

When David Noble was still at the Lions, I know he talked about that he wouldn’t have drafted Schache had he been at the Lions at the time.

The TAC cup at the time had the 6 6 6 rule in place, anti density and anti tagging rules. (Where as there’s none of those rules in private school footy in Vic).

So tall key forwards often got a lot of their marks on the lead, rather than proving their contested marking ability.

The issue with removing players with injury - remove McCartin or Patton, then remove Scully, Ball etc. The result aren't going to change a lot. And if it does skew a little bit - then perhaps KPFs being more susceptible to injury should be considered anyway.

When we're talking about individual players like Schache - well we're moving away from the data (what the percentages say) and towards case by case basis - which defeats the purpose of using data.

Let's say this draft comes and the top 3 are Tsatas, Warlord, and Lemmey. We simply don't know who the best pick is. The professional recruiters don't know either - they're just having better educated guesses than us. But these recruiters are picking 80% duds when they go for KPF's. It's not like the kids they were picking weren't the best available. They picked the best kids that everyone agreed were the best kids, and 80% of KPF's picked in the top two have not worked out.

So maybe this year is the year? Lemmey end up Reiwoldt mk2. But we don't have a crystal ball and won't know until after the fact. So all we can do is play the percentages.

 

[DanWCE]

Worth taking to Vegas if he can hold back from spiking your drinks with roofies instead of molly

 

[briztoon]

How is Lane going?

Curious coz I come for his neck of the woods.

Going really well, and has developed a lot this year. Looks like a future number one ruck.

He’s been rucking as the number one ruck in our VFL team.

Has stripped all his puppy fat, muscled up, and really improved his running, athleticism and agility. And bleached his hair.

He’s very good around the ground outside the ruck contest, as well as good in the ruck.

Also Tunstill extended as well.

 

[Chump Change]

It's the unwavering surface level analysis for mine. Which can only be interpreted one correct way.

You're not aware that we group things and monitor patterns to aid us in decision making?

 

[DanWCE]

You're not aware that we group things and monitor patterns to aid us in decision making?

Shhhhhhh

 

[Bender_]

You're not aware that we group things and monitor patterns to aid us in decision making?

Who is we, people with asbergers?

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Nice to be in the audience for one of these for once.

 

[Chump Change]

Who is we, people with asbergers?

Humans. We all do it.

 

[Bender_]

Nice to be in the audience for one of these for once.

How long do you think you can hold out?

 

[briztoon]

Pettracca > McCartin tho so the saints should have taken him but took a needs approach with the tall.

I was the person who said that on here in one of my first posts, when I started posting here.

 

[DanWCE]

Who is we, people with asbergers?

Venn diagrammers

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

How long do you think you can hold out?

Depends how long this scotch lasts.