Mega Thread Delist/Trade/Draft Supermegaultrathread - Trade Period Edition

[pantskyle]

Gary Stocks ‏@Stoker49 now
When the entire deal is completed all will have a better understanding. Paper work not yet done #goeagles

Take it he is talking about the Yeo deal?

Very interesting.

 

[Noctorniquet]

entire deal? What else are we getting/losing?

Thats what I'm thinking, that sounds like it alludes to other deals being done

 

[andrew_embley]

Gary Stocks ‏@Stoker49 now
When the entire deal is completed all will have a better understanding. Paper work not yet done #goeagles

Take it he is talking about the Yeo deal?

Interesting ... C'mon Vozzo, work your magic ;P

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Dalziel is the other out of contract. Been reported he was offered a one year deal but wants 2.

A one year deal would be one too many.

 

[paran]

Hmmm I would have said yes pre-2013, but he went backwards this year. If he does end up making it, that will be one out of how many tries?

We have been impressively shithouse both at the draft and trade table post 06, which defies logic. The club is the most profitable in the league, yet whether it be coaching staff, player development, fitness/conditioning, injury management, drafting or trading we have been mediocre to poor.

Heck we can't even get the jumper situation right FFS.

Given all of these factors and how poorly we seem to have managed this off season so far, I am starting to wonder if our issues are at management level...

Disagree. 2008 was a good draft (great if we'd taken sloane/redden/walters over smith and jones), 2009 poor, 2010 great (Gaff/Darling/Lycett), 2011 average-poor, 2012 average. Our trading has been pathetic in recent times with teams continuously getting the better of us (Ebert trade, Wellingham trade specifically, didn't do much better with Lynch, Cripps, Stevens trades) either by screwing to pay overs to get players who want to come to us or making us accept crap compensation to ensure that players go to the clubs they want to.

 

[Tiff]

We get Pendlebury for Priddis. I can see it.

 

[BOND 007]

Is it possible the article from the Age is something that Brisbane's leaked to try and get this deal done for 28 but the Eagles are holding firm (for a change) on 31 and thats why nothings been mentioned of afl.com.au etc ?

Correct assumption

 

[paran]

Niice! Carn Vozza!

 

[ziad]

Niice! Carn Vozza!

our hero

 

[eaglespremiers]

Very interesting.

 

[Sw3Et]

We get Pendlebury for Priddis. I can see it.

Priddis is integral to our midfield set-up, the club wouldn't allow it.

 

[paran]

list of eagles players who went backwards in 2013:

schofield
gaff
shuey
hurn
lecras
darling
scooter
cox
waters
butler
smith
brennan
sheppherd
embley
mcginnity

etc
etc

not trying to be a smart alec, but whatever went wrong for the team last year made a lot of our players look ordinary. for me, that's what makes it very hard to guage where our list is at and where our list management should go.

besides that, i'm probably one of hill's bigger fans on here as i think he adds a neat dimension when we're properly up and about. he's not perfect but he's twice the player he was when he left the dogs and better than many around here would have us believe.

Everyone looked a step slower in preseason. The year before we were there for the tackle, last preseason we were a step or two to late. Didn't see many games last year, but that was a similar issue in the ones I saw. That and missing Hurn (or at least Butler) getting the ball out of defence.

 

[Scooter#10]

St Kilda, Carlton and West Coast are unlikely to budge on their respective offers for Longer, Docherty and Yeo while Port Adelaide tries to beat Adelaide in securing a suitable deal for Polec.

Sounds like pick 31 to me if we are unlikely to budge

 

[Dr Riviera]

If we trade pick 31 for Yeo, I want a statue of Vozzo, erected, erected in front of the new stadium.

If we trade pick 28 for Yeo, I want Vozzo sacked and charged with treason.

Some would say I'm being petty. I would tell those people that we need to sack the coach preemptively.

 

[DivideandMultiply]

Disagree. 2008 was a good draft (great if we'd taken sloane/redden/walters over smith and jones), 2009 poor, 2010 great (Gaff/Darling/Lycett), 2011 average-poor, 2012 average. Our trading has been pathetic in recent times with teams continuously getting the better of us (Ebert trade, Wellingham trade specifically, didn't do much better with Lynch, Cripps, Stevens trades) either by screwing to pay overs to get players who want to come to us or making us accept crap compensation to ensure that players go to the clubs they want to.

I disagree.

The good picks we have managed have been very good however:

2007: Ebert 13, Tony Notte 20*
2008: Swift 20*, Smith 36
2009: Sheppard 7, Weedon 22*, Stevens 23
2010: -
2011: Newman 23, McInnes 28
2012: Colledge 45?

We have mostly wasted our rookie picks over that period, so for a club that doesn't do well in the RD and doesn't go deep into the ND, our drafting and trading history over this period, given the resources available is pretty concerning.

 

[pantskyle]

I'm getting excited based on nothing but Gary's tweet.

 

[Noctorniquet]

I'm getting excited based on nothing but Gary's teet.

EFA

 

[eaglespremiers]

I'm getting excited based on nothing but Gary's tweet.

Who is Gary and what did he say?

 

[andrew_embley]

We love you Craig!!!!!

 

[Chris_6678]

Who is Gary and what did he say?

Gary Stocks ‏@Stoker49 29m
When the entire deal is completed all will have a better understanding. Paper work not yet done #goeagles

Gary Stocks ‏@Stoker49 26m
These things take time. Not a simple process but guys are working hard on getting Elliot deal done. #chippingaway

 

[JEagle]

list of eagles players who went backwards in 2013:

schofield
gaff
shuey
hurn
lecras
darling
scooter
cox
waters
butler
smith
brennan
sheppherd
embley
mcginnity

etc
etc

not trying to be a smart alec, but whatever went wrong for the team last year made a lot of our players look ordinary. for me, that's what makes it very hard to guage where our list is at and where our list management should go.

besides that, i'm probably one of hill's bigger fans on here as i think he adds a neat dimension when we're properly up and about. he's not perfect but he's twice the player he was when he left the dogs and better than many around here would have us believe.

Disagree with alot of this:

- Hurn was leading the league in effective kicks yet again before he went down injured IIRC.
- Shuey was let down by injury.
- Scooter i will pay as his kicking and handballing was worse than in 2102.
- Gaff got the hard tag and more attention as we were low on mids.
- Lecras name on this list take particular issue with. If you weren't happy with his output after a knee reco you are crazy. He showed plenty!!!
- The rest i'd pay, with the exception of Darling who still kicked alot of goals and applied plenty of forward pressure.

 

[BloominH]

Gary Stocks ‏@Stoker49 now
When the entire deal is completed all will have a better understanding. Paper work not yet done #goeagles

Take it he is talking about the Yeo deal?

I suspect it will have something to do with a deal to get Booooo ts ma with pick 29

 

[Shmiddy15]

I suspect it will have something to do with a deal to get Booooo ts ma with pick 29

I have a horrible feeling you might be right.

 

[Moorey]

Easy to say Darling went backwards but lets remember he was the #1 option up forward the year before due to JK's injuries. For a 2nd year player he done extremely well and this year took the back seat to JK who had an awesome year except for the last few games.

 

[the harry]

Who is Gary and what did he say?

Read this in the voice of Arnold Schwarzenegger for some reason.... who's your daddy and what does he do?