Does it take too long for clubs to rebuild their lists?

[Obeanie1]

Yep and they'll do that until they fall off the cliff. Then they'll have to rebuild primarily by the draft.

Only the cats have managed to continuously contend by topping up.

And why can Geelong do that successfully and not Collingwood?

Both are destination clubs. Geelong with a lower cost of living advantage.

Recently Pies have loaded up with father sons and getting another next season. Cats last father son was?

 

[tiger_tough]

Wrong.

Is it F all picks? No.

Did they split two early 1sts in 2022 and this year to land two extra 1sts? Yes.

And traded a player for a F1st? Yes.

So no. Not all natural picks.

BTW this isn't a tit for tat Eagles V Richmond. My response was to a silly suggestion that the Eagles had / have F all picks. Which is disengenuous posting.

It's a discussion about how different clubs rebuild differently.

CBF looking it up but 7 over 5 wouldn't be in the top half a dozen clubs.

You brought up Richmond

 

[tiger_tough]

And why can Geelong do that successfully and not Collingwood?

Both are destination clubs. Geelong with a lower cost of living advantage.

Recently Pies have loaded up with father sons and getting another next season. Cats last father son was?

Geelong are the best run club in the league for starters. Their drafting, recruiting and development is better than any other club.

Plus the fact that they can offer a country/coastal lifestyle while still being a Vic team and play big games at the G.

 

[Obeanie1]

Geelong are the best run club in the league for starters. Their drafting, recruiting and development is better than any other club.

Plus the fact that they can offer a country/coastal lifestyle while still being a Vic team and play big games at the G.

Right.

And Collingwood?

The destination club that just signed Cummings, Houston and Membrey.

 

[tiger_tough]

Right.

And Collingwood?

The destination club that just signed Cummings, Houston and Membrey.

What about them? Theyre not at Geelongs level.

Nothing extraordinary about those acquisitions. Houston is open about wanting to go to Carlton, but they prioritised the draft. I think you mean Perryman, and they're paying him a ridiculous amount.

Pies are near the top in terms of appeal for Vic clubs though, sure. They're the biggest club down here.

 

[HairyO]

Right.

And Collingwood?

The destination club that just signed Cummings, Houston and Membrey.

Only one of those is a sign of being a destination club.

 

[Toffee Lion]

I don't disagree.

That puts your rebuild at the nine year mark, rather than the five years used to attack Carlton and Essendon with.

Does a rebuild end with a flag? I'd argue that 2019 marked the end of the "rebuild" and we entered into contention mode thereafter.

If you want a start date for when we really started to hit rock bottom and rebuild, it would be the 2014 season. End of 2013 we were a win out of finals, had just sacked Voss and then hit with the Go Home 5, forcing us to properly hit the reset button.

So 2014-2019 is a better timeframe of our list rebuild. Then you throw on a few years of tinkering (while contending) with trades/FA/Draft to eventually reach 2023/24 with Grand Final appearances.