ELITE MIDFIELDERS 2013

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The Prosecutor said:
If Watson doesn't sit amongst those four, then I have no idea what elite is.
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I agree that Jobe has been elite for a couple of years now. Would like to see him do it for a few more seasons then no one will doubt him. Longevity of elite status is what I should have mentioned in my post. There are some that have had a couple of great seasons then taper off. The others mentioned have done it for several seasons. Hope this makes sense.:)
 
Hamshamiltonhocking said:
I'm going to assume that, statistically, each team MIGHT have one elite midfielder, and a couple of lucky teams might have two. So, quite arbitrarily, I'm going to restrict the number of 'Elite' midfielders in the AFL to twenty. At this stage of 2013, who might those twenty be? Now, obviously, I have not seen every game, so must rely often on reports of good form. That said, here's twenty who seem to be 'Elite' in 2013:
Adelaide: Dangerfield
Carlton: Murphy, Judd
Collingwood: Pendlebury, Swan
Essendon: Watson, Stanton, Goddard, Heppell
Fremantle: Barlow
Geelong: Selwood, Bartel, Johnson
GWS:
Hawthorn: Mitchell, Hodge
Melbourne:
North: Swallow
Port Adelaide: Boak
Richmond: Cotchin
St Kilda:
Sydney: Kennedy, Jack
West Coast:
Western Bulldogs:

Not surprisingly, the teams that are currently well-placed have had more midfielders at the elite level than have the strugglers. I'm certain to have overlooked some players, but, remember, before anyone can be included on this list, some one has to be excluded.
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Heppell has been excellent but not quite elite.
 
matty lloyd the champ said:
You don't honestly think Gibson is anywhere close to Stanton do you?
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Both are very similar players- gutrunners who get a lot of disposals for average impact. Stanton has the runs on the board and is the better player but i am making the point Stanton is not a very unique player and should no way known be considered elite.
 
Kavliaris69 said:
I agree with you totally. Most teams have one elite player and plenty of A grades. There are probably only 4 "elite" mids in the whole comp that can produce serious quality posessions, clearances, etc. Ablett, Mitchell, Selwood and Pendles. They are true mids that have proved their elite abilities. The rest of the so called "elite" are A grade players.
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I'd add Watson to your list and Cotchin and Kennedy not far off.
 
Dwight Schrute said:
That's including the game where Stanton got 8 disposals and was subbed off due to an injury.
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good point, but who's to say that if he played the game healthy, that it would have increased his overall averages? his disposals would likely be higher however other stats might have declined. Can't really say 100 percent either way because it's speculation
 
Spitta09 said:
Both are very similar players- gutrunners who get a lot of disposals for average impact. Stanton has the runs on the board and is the better player but i am making the point Stanton is not a very unique player and should no way known be considered elite.
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In other words, he is an extremely poor man's Stanton.

You make mention that Stanton has average impact, why is it that coaches want to tag him? If he really isn't damaging, surely the likes of Goddard and Zaharakis attract opposition attention rather than Stanton.
 

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matty lloyd the champ said:
In other words, he is an extremely poor man's Stanton.

You make mention that Stanton has average impact, why is it that coaches want to tag him? If he really isn't damaging, surely the likes of Goddard and Zaharakis attract opposition attention rather than Stanton.
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Simply because he finds a tonne of the ball and a part from watson there was not much else. Doubt he will be getting as much attention anymore with the improvement of zaharakis and inclusion of goddard into the team who are more damaging players.
 
Spitta09 said:
Simply because he finds a tonne of the ball and a part from watson there was not much else. Doubt he will be getting as much attention anymore with the improvement of zaharakis and inclusion of goddard into the team who are more damaging players.
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Funny cause all year, tags have still come his way whilst Goddard and Zaharakis run free. Off the top of my head, Van Berlo, Farren Ray, Crowley and Scully have tagged him in the space of 6 games.
 
Tigers_fan24 said:
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/...d1=1484&tid2=6&pid2=1347&type=A&fid1=S&fid2=S

stats don't lie - they're pretty much neck and neck in regards to the numbers. Arguable that lids is slightly ahead imo due to uncontested possessions, 1 percenters and disposal efficiency - depends which stats you value more??? I am not doing to declare that anyone is "better"
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5 kicks more per game is a pretty telling stat. Stanton has had clearly the better season but Deledio is the better player overall imo
 
That list needs to be culled

Adelaide: Dangerfield
Carlton: Judd , Murphy
Collingwood: Pendlebury, Swan , Beams
Essendon: Watson
Fremantle: Fyfe
Gold Coast: Ablett
Geelong: Selwood Johnson , Bartel
GWS:
Hawthorn: Hodge, Mitchell
Melbourne:
North: Swallow
Port Adelaide:
Richmond: Cotchin, deledio
St Kilda:
Sydney: Kennedy , Jack
West Coast:
Western Bulldogs:

IMO the Players in bold writing are elite super stars in the league and the ones in the red are A graders
 
Taking on the same system as above (elite in bold, A graders in red)

Adelaide: Dangerfield, Thompson
Brisbane: Rockliff
Carlton: Murphy, Judd
Collingwood: Swan, Pendlebury, Beams
Essendon: Watson, Goddard
Fremantle: Fyfe
Gold Coast: Ablett
Geelong: Selwood, Johnson
GWS:
Hawthorn: Mitchell, Hodge
Melbourne: Jones
North: Swallow
Port Adelaide: Boak
Richmond: Cotchin, Deledio
St Kilda: Montagna
Sydney: Kennedy, Jack
West Coast: Selwood
Western Bulldogs: Griffen, Boyd
 
matty lloyd the champ said:
I'd rate them the same.

His game against Freo was pretty ordinary as well. Crowley shut him down pretty well.
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Deledio was sent to Mundy to shut him down, and ended up beating both Mundy and Crowley.

And no Stanton isn't even close to Deledio as a footballer, one is an elite user of the ball who is extremely damaging anywhere around 55m of goal and can play inside and outside including various positions on the field including shut down roles, and the other is, well, just a decent midfielder.
 
Jobecantkicklol said:
That list needs to be culled

Adelaide: Dangerfield
Carlton: Judd , Murphy
Collingwood: Pendlebury, Swan , Beams
Essendon: Watson
Fremantle: Fyfe
Gold Coast: Ablett
Geelong: Selwood Johnson , Bartel
GWS:
Hawthorn: Hodge, Mitchell
Melbourne:
North: Swallow
Port Adelaide:
Richmond: Cotchin, deledio
St Kilda:
Sydney: Kennedy , Jack
West Coast:
Western Bulldogs:

IMO the Players in bold writing are elite super stars in the league and the ones in the red are A graders
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Mitchell not bolded? He's only come runner up in the last two Brownlows.
 

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