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The club was hijacked by a mad scientist, psyschotic actually. Still hiding that evidence is he?

Bomber knew what he was all about, having worked with him at Geelong previously. Another psychopath.

Love to kick Essendon as much as the next Carlton supporter, but almost feel sorry for Hird now. If he's on the verge of suicide pretty clear indication it's gone too far. Bloke has three kids. Him totally removing himself from the game has allowed this collective hate to gain momentum.
People dont talk about that ..they do it...or try. Need to look at the pathological history and work that out mate. He made his bed but doesnt care to lie in it.
Lie....now theres a word appropriate to Hird in my opinion.........spins a good yarn that one does.
 
The club was hijacked by a mad scientist, psyschotic actually. Still hiding that evidence is he?

Bomber knew what he was all about, having worked with him at Geelong previously. Another psychopath.

Love to kick Essendon as much as the next Carlton supporter, but almost feel sorry for Hird now. If he's on the verge of suicide pretty clear indication it's gone too far. Bloke has three kids. Him totally removing himself from the game has allowed this collective hate to gain momentum.
even a dumb fish doesn't swim upstream for the sake of it.....
 

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Hird accepted responsibility...enough said. His association with Charters alone is dodgy enough. Should not be a part of the game in any capacity for mine. I’m sure there are some more unhinged people then myself who are just as offended by his presence as I am...if not more!
 
Hird has been doing public speaking rounds recently, garnering sympathy from industry insiders, talking of his struggles with depression during the drug saga. On face value, it’s hard not to feel sorry for him. No one should have to go through depression, especially because of a game. However, if you’re of the opinion that Hird is a sociopath, it seems as though he has been carefully manipulating public opinion and that of industry insiders.

We’ve heard many times since his time out of the game, that he still harbours coaching aspirations. Mainly through Mark Robinson. Now he’s returning to AFL, albeit in a commentary capacity, one week after Essendons shocking round 1 defeat. Why now? The timing stinks.
I'm sure he doesn't have a lot of sympathy from the multitude of young footballers, their partners, and their families who's lives were turned upside down, and would no doubt still be affected by the whole saga.

I wouldn't wish depression on anyone, but it's those lives that he adversely affected along the way whom I have genuine sympathy for. I heard on one of the radio shows recently that some players and their partners are still fearful that whatever was injected into their bodies may affect their offspring.

And in the meantime, Jimmy boy just makes it all about himself....**** him
 
I'm sure he doesn't have a lot of sympathy from the multitude of young footballers, their partners, and their families who's lives were turned upside down, and would no doubt still be affected by the whole saga.

I wouldn't wish depression on anyone, but it's those lives that he adversely affected along the way whom I have genuine sympathy for. I heard on one of the radio shows recently that some players and their partners are still fearful that whatever was injected into their bodies may affect their offspring.

And in the meantime, Jimmy boy just makes it all about himself....**** him
I thank you for your correct use of the accusative case...
This refinement would never be found on the * board.
 
People dont talk about that ..they do it...or try. Need to look at the pathological history and work that out mate. He made his bed but doesnt care to lie in it.
Lie....now theres a word appropriate to Hird in my opinion.........spins a good yarn that one does.
What was the famous quote from the press conference.... " I'm shocked to be sitting here"

I mean really ? Or just shocked to be caught.

Hirst got off very lightly in my opinion, his players on the other hand and running around with who knows what in their bodies with unknown side effects.

Not publicised but all players effected are getting lifetime testing and health monitoring by AFL.



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Is it just me......this situation is so bizarre.
How is it possible that this man who has personally tarnished the AFL brand a number of times, is being sought after???
Where is the outrage???
It is bad enough that scum supporters are willing to see past his indiscretions but the general public can't just remain silent on this.
This should come as no surprise. The media fawned over him for much of the doping debacle & the AFL were more than happy for him to have a sabbatical in France, while still getting paid as per the terms of his coaching contract.

I remember back to the period before he became coach of the Dopers. He was part of the On The Couch panel & continually denied he had any interest in coaching, when really he was positioning himself to succeed Matty Knights as coach.

If I was Woosha I would be looking over my shoulder at every step because the narcissistic one is circling.
 
Could be handy for Tird to have a chemist as assistant coach MSR?!
Would reduce the odds of getting caught. Would be able to do it all in-house with less people involved. Less people involved = less likelihood of someone spilling the beans e.g. a certain compounding chemist visited by certain officials from a certain opposition football club.
 

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The club was hijacked by a mad scientist, psyschotic actually. Still hiding that evidence is he?

Bomber knew what he was all about, having worked with him at Geelong previously. Another psychopath.

Love to kick Essendon as much as the next Carlton supporter, but almost feel sorry for Hird now. If he's on the verge of suicide pretty clear indication it's gone too far. Bloke has three kids. Him totally removing himself from the game has allowed this collective hate to gain momentum.
I couldn’t stand Hird prior the hijack....never have

He has never taken responsibility has he ? He was warned and took no notice

Has always thought he’s above it all...
 
Met Hird years ago when I stood in line to get his autograph on a poster as a present for my brother.

He was very arrogant during the interactions I saw, and then got offended when he found out I was a Carlton supporter.

Played the poor victim even back then.
 
Geez, we are a harsh crowd today!

Honestly, he really is a wizard when it comes to tactics, running patterns and seeing the game a head of time.

I enjoyed the take down of the Bombers as much as any other Carlton supporter but I’m also aware that plenty of what happened to the club and Hird he was not even involved in or knew the facts, Bomber did! The line ‘you were in charge’ doesn’t always tell the truth, hence why Doc Reid somehow survived...
I don't remember anything spectacular about his strategic nous. I remember him being a decent gameday coach, but merely following football trends in his overarching gameplan; chip around the back half when losing, switch to the vacant side at the G, switch into the corridor during transition.

But then, like I said, his legacy is tainted by the saga, so my memory for his coaching is probably not clear. Do you have a clear example that you can remember of something he did that proves otherwise?
 
Hirdy wasn't a coach's butt hole. He *was* a good figurehead before the supplements saga being Essendon's golden boy. The majority of the actual strategic coaching was Bomber Thompson.
 
Given Hirds tactics largely consisted of relying on Jobe to win the ball & everyone else charging forward (aka u12 footy) - safe to say that goreds & I have differing interpretations of tactical genius.
Everyone deserves the chance at redemption but ultimately he was a poor coach, so while we're at it should Knights (a coach of similar standard) also be brought back?
 
Hirdy wasn't a coach's butt hole. He *was* a good figurehead before the supplements saga being Essendon's golden boy. The majority of the actual strategic coaching was Bomber Thompson.
He back shafted Knights good and proper to get the job

The holy saviour
 
No remorse or accountability whatsoever.

At best you would have to accept poor leadership allowing "experimental supplements" program to be introduced and exposing his team to this.
Association with dubious characters, notionally qualified to be conducting the "experiment". Questionably sourcing of the "experimental supplements".
Connections to the dark side.

Just a total lack of due diligence, unacceptable by any measure when players welfare is potentially at risk.
Let alone associating the club, supporters and the AFL with questionable characters and practises.

Hird can not be rehabilitated, as he never accepted any fault or accountability or even acknowledged the risks.

All we got from Hird and the Essendon hierarchy was the the Sgt Shultz position....we know nothing.
And an arrogant challenge.... prove that we did wrong.

This is an abysmal saga on any level.

Hird is not a fit and proper person to lead any organisation, or be in a position of influence.
 





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I couldn’t stand Hird prior the hijack....never have

He has never taken responsibility has he ? He was warned and took no notice

Has always thought he’s above it all...
Eskie has come out with both guns blazing, love it.:thumbsu::thumbsu:
 
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