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2023 AFL Trade Period and the AFL Draft

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Current draft picks: done
2024 draft picks: 1st, 2nd, 4th (Fre), 4th (GC), 4th (WBU)

List changes:
Out: 7 - Ed Curnow (Ret), Plowman (Ret), O'Brien (Del), Philp (Del), Honey (Del), Fisher (Trade), Dow (Trade)
In: 6 - Rob Monahan (IIR-CatB), Elijah Hollands (Trade), Orazio Fantasia (DFA), Ashton Moir (pick 29), Billy Wilson (pick 34), Matthew Carroll (Rookie pick 15)
Uncontracted: 0.
Retained SSP Players: 2 - Cincotta, O'Keeffe
Upgraded Rookie: 1 - Cottrell

List status:
Senior - 36 (36-38)
Rookie - 6 (0-6)
Cat-B Rookie - 2 (0-2)
Total - 44 (44)

Free spots - 0

Note - Matt Duffy (Ireland) not included - assumption is he was not listed after injuring knee.

List Lodgment Dates: OPEN
Tue 31-Oct: List Lodgment 1 COMPLETE
Tue 31-Oct: Father/Son, NGA, Northern Academy bidding nominations close COMPLETE
Tue 31-Oct: International Scholarship Listed players inclusion on rookie list lodgment COMPLETE
Thu 9-Nov: List Lodgment 2 COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Father/Son Primary List lodgment close COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Players not registered for 3 years inclusion on rookie list lodgment COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: International Players inclusion on rookie list lodgment COMPLETE
Wed 22-Nov: List Lodgment 3 (post National draft) COMPLETE
Thu 23-Nov: FINAL List Lodgment (post PSD & Rookie drafts) PENDING

The Draft:
Mon 20-Nov
Time 7pm: National Draft Round One COMPLETE
Tue 21-Nov
5.45pm - 6.30pm: Selection Trade period COMPLETE
7pm: National Draft Round Two to completion COMPLETE
Following completion of draft: Rookie Promotion to Primary List COMPLETE
Following completion of draft: Delisted Free Agency Period (3) COMPLETE
Wed 22-Nov
Northern Academy and NGA Academy eligible Pre-Selected Rookie and Father-Son Pre-Selected Rookie player nominations
3pm: AFL Pre-season Draft COMPLETE
3.20pm: AFL Rookie Draft COMPLETE

Supplementary Selection Period (SSP): PENDING
Mon 27-Nov 9am: SSP starts (players must have been on AFL list previously OR nominated for 2023 draft)
Mon 19-Feb 5pm: SSP ends


Draft Nominations: CLOSED
Tue 10-Oct 9am: AFL Draft Nominations open COMPLETE
Tue 31-Oct: Out-of-contract listed AFL player draft nomination close (national or pre-season draft) COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov 3pm: AFL Draft Nominations close COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Delisted AFL player draft nomination close (national or pre-season draft) COMPLETE
Mon 13-Nov: Non-retained rookie list player draft nomination close COMPLETE

Player and Selection Trades: CLOSED
Mon 9-Oct 9am: AFL Trade Period Commences – Players & Selections COMPLETE
Wed 18-Oct 7.30pm: AFL Trade Period Closes – Players & Selections COMPLETE
Mon 23-Oct 9am: AFL Trade Period Opens – Selections Only COMPLETE
Fri 10-Nov 5pm: AFL Trade Period Closes –Selections Only COMPLETE

Delisted Free Agency Periods: CLOSED
Wed 01-Nov 9am: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences COMPLETE
Wed 08-Nov 5pm: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes COMPLETE
Fri 10-Nov 9am: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences COMPLETE
Fri 10-Nov 5pm: Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes COMPLETE
(see also period 3 under "The Draft" section below)

Restricted/Unrestricted Free Agency Trades: CLOSED
Fri 6-Oct 9am: AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period Commences COMPLETE
Fri 13-Oct 5pm: Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period COMPLETE
Mon 16-Oct 5pm: AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends COMPLETE

Draft Combines: CLOSED
Fri 6-Oct to Sun 8-Oct: National Draft Combine COMPLETE
Sun 8-Oct: Victorian State Combine COMPLETE
Sat 14-Oct: SA/NT State Combine COMPLETE
Sun 15-Oct: WA State Combine COMPLETE

6-Oct
1. James Jordon to Sydney as UFA. Melbourne receive end of 2nd round pick as compensation (40)
2. Matt Flynn to WCE as UFA. GWS receive end of 2nd round pick as compensation (41)
8-Oct
3. Joel Hamling to Sydney as UFA. Fremantle do not receive any compensation.
9-Oct
4. Tom Doedee to Brisbane as RFA. Adelaide receive end of 1st round compensation (pick 20)
5. Pick Swap: GCS trade picks 5, 48, 53 and future 3rd (GC) to WBU in return for picks 11, 18 and future 1st rd (WBU)
6. Pick Swap: Freo trade pick 25 and future 2nd rd to Port for future 1st (Port)
7. Todd Goldstein to Essendon as UFA. No compensation for North Melbourne.
10-Oct
8. Ben McKay to Essendon as RFA. North Melbourne receive 1st round pick as compensation (3)
9. James Harmes to Western Bulldogs. Melbourne receive a future 3rd rd pick (WBU)
11-Oct
10. Dylan Stephens to North Melbourne with pick 26. Sydney receive a future end of first round (pick 19) and this year's pick 45.
11. Pick Swap: Melbourne receives pick 11. Gold Coast get 14, 28, 36 in return.
12. Chris Burgess and pick 14 to Adelaide. Gold Coast get picks 24 and 27.
13. Pick Swap: North Melbourne receive pick 18. Gold Coast gets future end of first round (pick 20) comp pick.
14. Brodie Grundy to Sydney. Melbourne receive pick 47 and future second round pick (Syd)
15. Taylor Adams to Sydney. Collingwood receive pick 34.
16. Zac Fisher to North Melbourne with pick 17. CARLTON receive picks 22 and 26.
13-Oct
17. Jade Gresham to Essendon as RFA. St Kilda receive end of 1st round compensation (pick 21)
18. Toby Pink to North Melbourne - delisted free agent.
19. Tom Fullarton to Melbourne. Brisbane receive pick 47 in return.
14-Oct
20. Tyler Brockman to West Coast Eagles. Hawthorn receive picks 44 and 63 in return.
16-Oct
21. Bigoa Nyuon to North Melbourne. Richmond receive pick 65.
22. Lachie Schultz to Collingwood. Fremantle receive pick 34 and a future first round pick (Col) in return.
23. Liam Henry and future round four (Fre) pick to St Kilda. Fremantle receive a future 2nd (StK) and future 4th (StK).
17-Oct
24. Shane McAdam to Melbourne. Adelaide receive a future second round pick (Mel) in return.
25. Multi-trade
.... CARLTON: Give - Paddy Dow, future 3rd (Car), future 4th (Car). Receive - future 3rd (Ess), future 4th (Fre), future 4th (WBU)
.... Essendon: Give - 52, future 3rd (Ess). Receive - pick 35, future 4th (Car)
.... St Kilda: Give - Nick Coffield, picks 35, 56, future 4th (Fre). Receive - Paddy Dow, pick 40, future 3rd (Car)
.... Western Bulldogs: Give - pick 40, future 4th (WBU). Receive - Nick Coffield, picks 52, 56
18-Oct
26. Ivan Soldo to Port Adelaide with pick 50. Richmond receive picks 41, 49 a future 2nd round (Fre) and future 4th round (PA).
27. Jack Ginnivan pick 39, future 2nd (Col) and future 4th (Col) to Hawthorn. Collingwood receive pick 33, future 2nd (Haw), future 3rd (Haw)
28. Jordan Sweet to Port Adelaide. Western Bulldogs receive pick 50 in return.
29. Esava Ratugolea to Port Adelaide. Geelong receive picks 25, 76 and 94.
30. Elijah Hollands to CARLTON with pick 28 and future 4th (GC). Gold Coast receive pick 26 and future 3rd (Ess).
31. Jacob Koschitzke to Richmond. Hawthorn receive pick 49.
32. Jack Billings to Melbourne. St Kilda receive a future 3rd round pick (Mel).
33. Multi-trade
.... Brisbane: Give - Jack Gunston, picks 47, 61, future 2nd round (Bri). Receive - Ryan, 39, 54, future 4th (Haw).
.... Hawthorn: Give - Brandon Ryan, picks 39, 54, future 4th round (Haw). Receive - Gunston, 47, 61, future 2nd (Bri).
34. Mabior Chol to Hawthorn with pick 62. Gold Coast receive a future 2nd round pick (Bri).
35. Massimo D'Ambrosio to Hawthorn. Essendon receive pick 61, future 4th round (Col)
36. Multi-trade
.... Essendon: Give - Brandon Zerk-Thatcher, pick 73, future 4th round (Ess), future 4th round (Car). Receive - Xavier Duursma
.... Port Adelaide: Give - Xavier Duursma. Receive - Brandon Zerk-Thatcher, 73, future 4th round (Ess), future 4th round (Car)





Nominated:
Elliott Himmelberg to GWS (Trade) - staying at GWS

Mooted:
Buku Khamis - staying at Dogs
Dylan Shiel
Clayton Oliver - Ade/Gee - staying at Melbourne
Ollie Wines
Dan McKenzie - Suns?
Scott Lycett
Tom Clurey
James Borlase
Brynn Teakle
Josh Sinn
Orazio Fantasia - GWS?
Sam Hayes
Harrison Petty


Potential DFA and Retiree moves:
TBA

Missed Out on trades:
TBA




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List Changes by Club
 
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I'm a bit concerned trading for Geelong pick 7 because With Walter and Read and McKay compo pick, Pick 7 then becomes pick 10. There is a clear gap between 10 and 11 but there is one player in the top 10 I don't think fits our needs.
 

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swuzzlebubble said:
The opportunity would be if Freo & Coll can't agree. We can be the white knight.

Otherwise, instead of Ginnivan how about Reef Mc....?
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Wouldn't have interest in either. Ginnivan is an ordinary footballer and will be out of the system in the next 2-3 years imo. As soon as his ducking antics dried up he's been nothing short of mediocre in a team he should be excelling in
 
WalshistheGOAT said:
In what way is Ginnivan dynamic? Would be one of the least athletic small forwards in the competition
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Athletic is entirely different to being a smart footballer.

And certainly, his role at the Pies has evolved since the likes of Hill have been added to the list.

No disrespect to Ginnivan to rank behind Hill and Elliot?
 
4flagsin5yrs said:
Athletic is entirely different to being a smart footballer.

And certainly, his role at the Pies has evolved since the likes of Hill have been added to the list.

No disrespect to Ginnivan to rank behind Hill and Elliot?
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Being smart is entirely different to being dynamic. Matt Owies provides the exact same traits for us yet we cry out about a lack of a dynamic small forward year on year. Dynamic is Charlie Cameron or Zac Bailey.
 
The Old Dark Navy's said:
Pies lose Adams, gain Schultz = immediate improvement for 2024
Essendon lose Zerk-Thatcher, Shiels, gain Gresham, Duursma, McKay = improvement
Saints lose Gresham, gain Shiels, Henry, Dow = slight improvement
Swans gain Grundy = improvement
Brisbane gain Doedee = improvement

Carlton lose Dow, Fisher, gain Hollands (not Hewett) = unknown

We are going to rely on natural improvement and the draft again. I hope we can swing something immediately useful in our best 22.
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On trade radio Dodoro said "Shiels is staying at Essendon"

Carlton don't have any list spots, money or trade currency to bring anyone in...
List spots are only going to get tighter over the next few years...

Austin said we will target the draft this year and next... Looks like we are all in on this list and the draft...
 
WalshistheGOAT said:
Being smart is entirely different to being dynamic. Matt Owies provides the exact same traits for us yet we cry out about a lack of a dynamic small forward year on year. Dynamic is Charlie Cameron or Zac Bailey.
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Precisely, Schultz ain’t worth a first rounder. FMD


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The Old Dark Navy's said:
Pies lose Adams, gain Schultz = immediate improvement for 2024
Essendon lose Zerk-Thatcher, Shiels, gain Gresham, Duursma, McKay = improvement
Saints lose Gresham, gain Shiels, Henry, Dow = slight improvement
Swans gain Grundy = improvement
Brisbane gain Doedee = improvement

Carlton lose Dow, Fisher, gain Hollands (not Hewett) = unknown

We are going to rely on natural improvement and the draft again. I hope we can swing something immediately useful in our best 22.
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Loading up for next year when we have some more cash free'd up would be my guess. Add a Max Holmes or Zac Bailey to our list who are OOC in 2024 and that may be all we need to take the next step after another year of natural progression from the likes of Binns, Hollands, Kemp, Motlop, Durdin, Cowan, Cerra, Walsh.

I really hope Durds gets a good run at it next year, imo our most talented small forward and could make a big difference for us
 
WalshistheGOAT said:
That would likely get it done but once a player requests a trade to a club it generally excludes others from trying to jump in last minute
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Im of this view but.

Freo have leverage here. If Collingwoods offer is crap, say 36 and we offered 16, Fre could say we aren’t trading you to Collingwood, you can see out tour contract or go to Carlton.

I think too many clubs moan they have no power, then just trade contracted players. Only a few have held players, I remember Swans with OKeefe, Swans with Paps, us with Gibbs, GWS with Mcarthy.
 
Courageous move to rely on the current list‘s natural improvement only, obviously our SC mobility remains a stumbling block.
Most teams around us are improving again in 2023 trade period and given will have a much harder game draw in 2024, it’s gonna be a challenge if some of our perennially injured break down again.
Hopefully there’ll be at least one surprise quality addition for us too, let’s keep our fingers crossed.
 
Really would not want Ash Johnson. Doesnt get up the ground and cant find his own ball. One trick pony who can run and jump if unimpeded. A player that scores goals in easy wins like the WCE. This year in losses struggled to score anything.

Don't want ginnivan either but he can at least hit a target inside 50. Some of our small forwards cant.
 
We were linked to Harmes a few weeks ago but I haven’t seen anything mentioned since, he is on the lookout for a new home and i think he would be a solid player for us but then i saw what he is reportedly owed by Melbourne, $500,000 next year.

Which raises the question. Will Melb need to pay someone to take him off their hands or will a club still cough up a 4th rounder?

Will there be a Bowes type deal this year?
 
DangerousD said:
Im of this view but.

Freo have leverage here. If Collingwoods offer is crap, say 36 and we offered 16, Fre could say we aren’t trading you to Collingwood, you can see out tour contract or go to Carlton.

I think too many clubs moan they have no power, then just trade contracted players. Only a few have held players, I remember Swans with OKeefe, Swans with Paps, us with Gibbs, GWS with Mcarthy.
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The issue is more so that Freo supporters see him in a regard that Pick 18 or Pick 16 will not be enough.
 

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