Review Geelong defeats North by 30 points. Rd 5, 2021

[Micksy]

People saying "X Tall was good in the 2's today" seem to be ignoring the fact North had no talls playing.

 

[ToreadorMarch]

Thought he did OK. Got a good grab, did some alright things, but yeah, Jenkins would have been a better option I reckon

Jenkins is never the better option IMO

 

[Chinacats]

Serious question...

At this level, who's responsible for basic individual skills? I assume we have a skills coaches who might oversee certain methods of things like tackling, hit outs, etc, but surely the fundamental things like kick and handball skills are the responsibility of the individual? The team as a whole has deplorable skills in that area. Even our 'silkiest' players are prone to butchering it, or turning it over without pressure. So many short kicks falling short, handballs to toes, handball behind running players or we'll above their heads.

And, the amount of times we look to go to a second or third option instead of the first one is ******* killing us. We put ourselves under unnecessary pressure.

It doesn't matter what your game plan is (for the record I think ours stinks), if you can't do the basics as an individual, then you'll always struggle as a team.

Just wonder what they trained in the pre season. Game plan is static and skills are off! Just blame it on the shorter pre season seems to be the go. Although have a look at the tigers....

 

[Chinacats]

People saying "X Tall was good in the 2's today" seem to be ignoring the fact North had no talls playing.

Yes that reserves game is well below the top level. Wouldn’t read too much into that game.

 

[frggr]

He had 11 turnovers and all of 2 score involvements. Most of those 946m gained ended up with the ball coming straight back. For all those touches he had absolutely no impact.

But isn't it a little bit worrying that he had that many opportunities to be damaging and it was partially luck, partially North being worse than us, that he wasn't?

Jayden Short would have made 2 turnovers and had 11 score involvements

 

[Chinacats]

On the way home it was interesting listening to krock, in particularly Benny review the game - there wasn't any puffing the chest out & how good are Geelong sorta thing, that there's a clear need for improvement but that today was more about how North went about things & structured up, rather than Geelong

North Melbourne went in to the match not with a game plan to win but with one to minimise the damage on the scoreboard and loss. They set up to continually have extras in our attacking half which would minimise fluidity to our game, and why guys like Ziebell played across the backline

Benny did finish by saying next week will be a better game because WCE will come over wanting to win which will help both sides play better

It was interesting listening to the analysis

Interesting synopsis that

 

[David the Cat]

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[frggr]

Can't wait for next week and watch Kolo end up on Ryan...

Thankfully Ryan's out for a while. Hotspot on his shin

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Awful. We are nowhere near it, and I'm not sure Cameron fixes that. Our contested ball improved tonight, however, our entries into forward 50 really expose just how important a player Ablett was for us.

It's not too far a reach to state that Ablett and Taylor out are hurting us up forward and down back far more than we gave credit for.

On our players, I actually thought Dahl was much improved tonight, and Rohan at least provided a ton of effort (multiple chase downs in the last and a missed chase from D50 to just outside their forward 50 was massive work rate).

Kolo was actually alright tonight too and had his first real decent game for the year, and Close was solid again.

Thought Guth had one of his worst nights, but he's earned that, and Sel was kept very very quiet by some skinny annoying no name in Turner.

The guy who absolutely burned us though, was one Patrick Dangerfield. Perhaps one of the worst games I've ever seen him play, and just looked like he was nowhere near being an effective contributor. Would love to see how many turnovers he created.

My worst on ground was once again Stanley, who got comprehensively beaten again, and gave us no ascendancy in the middle.

Can't see us winning next week, and think we're in for a real reality check come the next 3 games. Cameron being held back is utter stupidity IMO, as we're a quarter of the season in, and he's still not looking likely to okay until at least Round 7 - for what was apparently a 3 week 'minor' injury.

We had so many entries, but very few effective ones, so that is the main area that should be focused on all week on the track. Also, fix up damn goal kicking and give Hawkins a spray and tell him to play in front rather than wrestling and trying to get it out the back. Leading forwards are back with the new rules, and he is not playing the right away to utilize that to maximum effect.

Can't see how we win next week, but hoping for a significant improvement against the Eagles.

Not wrong on Stanley. Abysmal and we have Naitanui next week

Ablett's ball use and Taylor's positioning and leadership sorely missed.

Might have to watch the replay (torturous) as the conventional wisdom was the Kolo was crap. Thought Henderson was very good and Blicavs and Kolo were decent.

 

[TomsBulgingDisc]

Just wonder what they trained in the pre season. Game plan is static and skills are off! Just blame it on the shorter pre season seems to be the go. Although have a look at the tigers....

Yeah, tigers played an extra half more than us too

 

[AM]

We convert today and we win by 10 plus. I know the shouters will call on the old adage and that's fair enough, but today was an improvement. Feeling quietly confident with Cameron an 'in' we can do the Weagles at home next Saturday.

 

[cats_09]

Ill ask for your own opinion???
What Changes do you think Chris Scott and the MC will do?? But what changes would you personaly like to see...

I'd go

Outs: Stanley, SDK & Dahlhaus, all omitted
Ins: Fort, Cameron & Clark

It was good to see SDK debut and he did some nice things - the kick to Hawkins, the strong mark up forward, but also looked like he was being asked to play a role he hasn't played to much and wasn't really to his strengths

The MC may well keep Dahlhaus, as today wasn't his worse match this season but not sure he's bringing enough consistency especially as we're now getting back other players. I'd be tempted to shift Tuohy forward, we know that he knows how to kick goals and has a decent kick and that would then open up the opportunity to play Clark in the defensive half to help provide run

 

[frggr]

Well, at least there's this:

 

[Chinacats]

Yeah, tigers played an extra half more than us too

I think at the minute we have failed the psychology test so far. We finished 2nd last year, played well basically a qtr off a premiership then add Cameron, Smith & Higgins. They seem to have thought that they just need to turn up and top 4 would be assured. Cats need to roll up the sleeves very quickly all this season will be done before the bye!

 

[catempire]

I'd go

Outs: Stanley, SDK & Dahlhaus, all omitted
Ins: Fort, Cameron & Clark

It was good to see SDK debut and he did some nice things - the kick to Hawkins, the strong mark up forward, but also looked like he was being asked to play a role he hasn't played to much and wasn't really to his strengths

The MC may well keep Dahlhaus, as today wasn't his worse match this season but not sure he's bringing enough consistency especially as we're now getting back other players. I'd be tempted to shift Tuohy forward, we know that he knows how to kick goals and has a decent kick and that would then open up the opportunity to play Clark in the defensive half to help provide run

Stanley was much better today. Got beaten in the ruck but he competed around the ground in the way we need.

 

[Vdubs]

I knew someone would bring that up.
Also Ablett goal on siren 1993(4)?
Still let’s rephrase that: Games that were not finals..
actually, I think we haven’t done too badly against them in finals
But, in season games, they seem to drag us down.

1994

 

[Chinacats]

SEN have a rolling AA team each week not one cats player has been nominated yet. I think Tommy Stewart is looking good for that half back spot again. Been out best this year!

 

[bulletproof]

I thought Stanley was one of our best after quarter time. Surprised he is copping some grief. Remains a key player.

Parfitt and Stewart outstanding. Henderson good. Duncan ok.

Grim performance overall.

 

[Spazz Cat]

Not trying to throw a wet blanket on everyone.
But just remember how Jeremy Cameron

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Jeremy Cameron

Age

31

Ht

196cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

2.6

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

4.6

4star

T

2.0

3star

G

1.9

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.2

3star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.4

4star

G

2.0

5star

played last year yeah.
Just don't go in thinking we'll be awesome with him straight away.

 

[AM]

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[Partridge]

Who wants me to burn them a dvd of today's game?

I may reluctantly pass on that, but thank you.

Anyway, four points.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

will make way for either Cameron or Ratagolea

Cameron. Sav needs more time and Scott confirmed Cameron is in

 

[Down at K Park]

He had no idea............ on how to play forward.

Is it any surprise, considering he isn’t one. Why draft a solid kpd and make him play forward?

It’s like this club just thinks they can make players play wherever they feel like, rather than what they are best it. It’s insane.

 

[calder_daddy]

Bit worried about Nic Nat next week…


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This is going to keep me up all week

 

[Pollywaffle]

Serious question...

At this level, who's responsible for basic individual skills? I assume we have a skills coaches who might oversee certain methods of things like tackling, hit outs, etc, but surely the fundamental things like kick and handball skills are the responsibility of the individual? The team as a whole has deplorable skills in that area. Even our 'silkiest' players are prone to butchering it, or turning it over without pressure. So many short kicks falling short, handballs to toes, handball behind running players or we'll above their heads.
And, the amount of times we look to go to a second or third option instead of the first one is ******* killing us. We put ourselves under unnecessary pressure.
It doesn't matter what your game plan is (for the record I think ours stinks), if you can't do the basics as an individual, then you'll always struggle as a team.

Maybe we are overcoached? Causes players to overthink and instinctive play is stymied