Autopsy Geelong loses to Demons by 4 points - Rd 23

[xtatik222k]

It's the next day and I'm still staggered that we allowed that to happen. To have the minor premiership in our hands to the tune of a 44 point lead with a quarter and a half remaining and then throw that away, thereby giving our rivals a massive mental boost and ensuring we have to play away against an interstate team in week one of finals....it defies belief. We just collapsed. There was no fight, no resistance, nothing, just a total capitulation.

I still want an explanation for why Selwood and Danger were off the ground so much. When we were getting smashed in the last quarter I kept on seeing Parfitt and Holmes around the ball with Selwood and Danger nowhere to be found. How is that even remotely acceptable in a high-stakes game like this where the consequences of losing were an away game first up against Port?

Coaches thinking ahead - losing last night was a way better option than losing next week.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

They would have been better off resting players if this was the approach. They ended up doing neither. Try and win with a 90% effort.

Stupid approach.

Agreed..i think we were trying to do both hence danger on the bench in the last quarter but i dont agree with it.

Proof will be in the pudding next week.

 

[Spazz Cat]

Also on the plus side did we maybe put the cue in the rack to play Port?
Usually when something bad happens Hawkins makes those faces that he does.
He wasn't really pulling them after the siren.

 

[strauchnyy]

It's the next day and I'm still staggered that we allowed that to happen. To have the minor premiership in our hands to the tune of a 44 point lead with a quarter and a half remaining and then throw that away, thereby giving our rivals a massive mental boost and ensuring we have to play away against an interstate team in week one of finals....it defies belief. We just collapsed. There was no fight, no resistance, nothing, just a total capitulation.

I still want an explanation for why Selwood and Danger were off the ground so much. When we were getting smashed in the last quarter I kept on seeing Parfitt and Holmes around the ball with Selwood and Danger nowhere to be found. How is that even remotely acceptable in a high-stakes game like this where the consequences of losing were an away game first up against Port?

Every year mind boggling decisions like this occur at the pointy end.

Every year we crumble like this with panic

Every year it just unravels and uncharacteristic errors under pressure

No it’s not going to be ok and change this year. Same shit different year.

We just ****ing galvanised our biggest rival while shattering our own psychology. Port are there itching to play us on our hone deck. That was about as big a H&A loss as it gets from a mental point of view.

I’m ****ing devastated it’s happening again , year in year out. Angry too.

We are just a mentally weak fragile team that is only good in the H&A season

 

[Chinacats]

I've only watched the final 2 minutes, but his effort to tackle Brayshaw I think and chase with about a minute and a half left was pretty insipid when regaining possession was critical.. Still expect him to lift over the next few weeks now he's had a chance to develop some match fitness.

The final two minutes. Lucky you! Haha what a comedy of errors.
Guthrie- out on the full.
Gomez Adams- 50m penalty
Gawn- uncontested mark in front of goal.
You would swear that was a tank job! Must want Port after that last term. It’s all on for next week . If we flop in the finals again then this loss becomes one of the most catastrophic capitulations in Cats history!

 

[Pavlovs Cat]

Weird call given we dominated them in literally every meaningful statistic. If we kicked straight we win by plenty.

Yeah but you didn't. Meanwhile Port were dropping the ball all night while the Bulldogs were getting pinged for the exact same thing. Port blokes given plenty of time with the mark, Bont "play on" after about three seconds, Lycett falling on top of his opponent all night it was quite bizzare. I'm not a religious man but I'm praying we don't cop those "look at me" umpires in front of your fans at the Oval. What a glorious ride you got.

 

[Hinkley29]

When it was going pear-shaped in the centre they put veterans Parfitt, Holmes and someone else in to stem the bleed.

They aren't moves.

They are standard midfield rotations.

We made zero moves, changed nothing about our game plan and put prime movers in cotton wool when the game was on the line.

All evidence suggest that we did not care about the result last night and were determined not to show anything.

 

[TEDDY24INC]

Dangerfield having scans this morning is the word at the club. “Calf awareness”

Source?

 

[thecatattack]

Also on the plus side did we maybe put the cue in the rack to play Port?
Usually when something bad happens Hawkins makes those faces that he does.
He wasn't really pulling them after the siren.

I'd say it's pretty obvious we put the cue in the rack. Whether it was by choice because we don't care who we play next week and wanted to save ourselves, or what. But that second half we just pissed around with the ball after showing how good we can be in the second quarter.

 

[Hinkley29]

One thing that did come out of the game was that Holmes is improving quickly.

Sets up an interesting decision for next week's match committee. Prior to last night he was almost certain to get dropped for the finals. Now, it is at least a question.

 

[thecatattack]

Every year mind boggling decisions like this occur at the pointy end.

Every year we crumble like this with panic

Every year it just unravels and uncharacteristic errors under pressure

No it’s not going to be ok and change this year. Same sh*t different year.

We just ******* galvanised our biggest rival while shattering our own psychology. Port are there itching to play us on our hone deck. That was about as big a H&A loss as it gets from a mental point of view.

I’m ******* devastated it’s happening again , year in year out. Angry too.

We are just a mentally weak fragile team that is only good in the H&A season

Before the game, it was considered a dead rubber and now all of a sudden this game was a huge one and cost us the season??????????

Some of you guys need to pull your head out and stop being so emotional.

 

[smotherking]

All I'll say is a week is a long time in football. See you next weekend

 

[Pollywaffle]

Home ground losses are mounting up...the end is near.

Yep. Not relevant this year but goodbye fortress KP.
The question is why?
Have other teams finally figured it out, or has our game structure changed with practice at deakin etc.

 

[thecatattack]

One thing that did come out of the game was that Holmes is improving quickly.

Sets up an interesting decision for next week's match committee. Prior to last night he was almost certain to get dropped for the finals. Now, it is at least a question.

0 chance Holmes plays if Duncan is ready.

 

[PhatBoy]

It's the next day and I'm still staggered that we allowed that to happen. To have the minor premiership in our hands to the tune of a 44 point lead with a quarter and a half remaining and then throw that away, thereby giving our rivals a massive mental boost and ensuring we have to play away against an interstate team in week one of finals....it defies belief. We just collapsed. There was no fight, no resistance, nothing, just a total capitulation.

I still want an explanation for why Selwood and Danger were off the ground so much. When we were getting smashed in the last quarter I kept on seeing Parfitt and Holmes around the ball with Selwood and Danger nowhere to be found. How is that even remotely acceptable in a high-stakes game like this where the consequences of losing were an away game first up against Port?

Did you not listen to the commentary? They said Selwood went off with a blood rule and was still getting it seen to some time later.

 

[thecatattack]

Yep. Not relevant this year but goodbye fortress KP.
The question is why?
Have other teams finally figured it out, or has our game structure changed with practice at deakin etc.

No crowd.

 

[PhatBoy]

Yep. Not relevant this year but goodbye fortress KP.
The question is why?
Have other teams finally figured it out, or has our game structure changed with practice at deakin etc.

You don’t think the lack of crowd has anything to do with it?

 

[Baudolino]

Yep. Not relevant this year but goodbye fortress KP.
The question is why?
Have other teams finally figured it out, or has our game structure changed with practice at deakin etc.

No crowd makes a big difference. Don't underestimate it.

 

[Baudolino]

Did you not listen to the commentary? They said Selwood went off with a blood rule and was still getting it seen to some time later.

He finished with 64% TOG. Patching up a cut doesn't take that long.

 

[51niwstac]

There's no vaccine for complacency, let's lock Scotty in for another 4 years...4 more years...4 more years...

 

[Baudolino]

Just on the no crowd thing: we win that game if there's a crowd, and we also win the GWS game.

 

[fpm84]

Yep. Not relevant this year but goodbye fortress KP.
The question is why?
Have other teams finally figured it out, or has our game structure changed with practice at deakin etc.

Biggest factor is no crowds.

We’ve lost three at KP over the past 18 months and they’ve all been to no crowds.

Every other home ground advantage - WCE in Perth, Richmond at the MCG - has been nullified during periods with no crowds too.

There has never been any magic in the dimensions of KP as some may like to think. But when crowds are present it’s always a 90-95% pro Geelong crowd and that makes a tangible difference. It influences umpires, creates a hostile atmosphere for opponents and even directs our team at times. Can you imagine the groans and calls of ‘kick it long’ that 20k would have made last night as we were chipping it around the backline in Q4?

 

[BotsMaster]

Did anyone else think Guthrie was pretty terrible at stoppages?

Well Pickett was Guthrie's man when he kicked Melbourne's first goal of the game from a stoppage.

 

[PhatBoy]

He finished with 64% TOG. Patching up a cut doesn't take that long.

No it doesn’t but the question was posed about his time off the field in the last quarter and that’s when he was getting patched up. As we were 6 goals up during the rest of the game I would think it wasn’t so much of an issue the other times he was on the bench

 

[Chinacats]

I'd say it's pretty obvious we put the cue in the rack. Whether it was by choice because we don't care who we play next week and wanted to save ourselves, or what. But that second half we just pissed around with the ball after showing how good we can be in the second quarter.

So if we lose to Port how goes this cue in the rack theory? There’s always an out isn’t there? Cue in the rack, if we had Stewart, no home finals, no Duncan & Hawkins , if Dusty wasn’t born…
We are the best team ever but there are always mitigating circumstances… it’s ridiculous.
It’s go time next week. Get the cup or it’s another fail for the Geelong football club. It’s time to own it. It’s cup or nothing! No more excuses!