No Oppo Supporters General AFL Discussion #13 - Carlton Posters ONLY!

[Aphrodite]

44 ffs....

Correct ffs

 

[BigFrizz36]

I have no idea why the AFL keeps insisting on trying to bring overseas artists and get so desperate to get anyone. It devalues the day as a whole.

I would prefer to liken Grand Final day to the FA Cup. There is no fancy entertainment just the basic stuff. The day is about the theatre of the game and build up itself.

Hope one day the AFL will realise we don't need this Super Bowl/NRL crap, the GF can sell itself.

The F.A. Cup is a fair way down on the list of trophies that clubs want to win these days. European Championship, UEFA cup and league title all rate higher these days. The AFL understand that the game will be sold out regardless of who does the warm up. What they are trying to do is hook some to watch that wouldn't normally watch, and provide more value to those that have paid their hard earned to be there.

A huge rock band is available to play three songs pre-game on our leagues day of days and it's a bad thing? Local bands etc still to be announced for half time. Like most I will pay a little bit of interest in the pre match but nothing more than a little bit. The game is the main thing and I hope to god that we are there.

 

[blueboy25]

I for one would like to see Angry Anderson in the Batmobile Carlton Hovercraft

Isn't our hovercraft on the bottom of the yarra?

 

[Bamboo Harvester]

Bring back Barry Crocker to sing “The impossible dream” I say.

What about Bazza McKenzie to sing "One-Eyed Trouser Snake"?

 

[Wickzki]

Daniel Rich Announces His Retirement

Daniel Rich calls time on his incredible playing career

www.lions.com.au

Daniel Rich

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announces his retirement. A brilliant footballer and a truly good human who has represented his club superbly in the time I've been in Brisbane

 

[passmark]

Daniel Rich Announces His Retirement

Daniel Rich calls time on his incredible playing career

www.lions.com.au

Daniel Rich announces his retirement. A brilliant footballer and a truly good human who has represented his club superbly in the time I've been in Brisbane

Still my favourite thing in footy is a raking left foot pass to to moving target. Better than speckies, better than snap goals.

He was as good as anyone.

Can finally close the Ziebell, Rich or Yarran thread.

 

[Blues_1864]

I for one would like to see Angry Anderson in the Batmobile Carlton Hovercraft

I have cranked that vid every day since we beat the Suns and actually qualified for the finals - I think it is my favourite thing on the entire internet. Such a rich tapestry of Australian sporting history and culture, and surreal production questions "How long will the Batmobile need to get from one wing to the other at Waverley?" "I dunno, Waltzing Matilda on the pan-pipes ought to cover it...". But it didn't! Still the highest-performance vehicle on the field though, in amongst all the Capris...

Love the crowd booing Sydney's Olympic bid, just before Angry's backing-tape takes over. Love the who's who of Australian sport 1991 out there, Baker-Finch, Maroney, Rose, Fenech, Marsh, the Oarsome Foursome, brilliant. Sadness too, for young, fit Jimmy Stynes with his Brownlow, and less than 20 years to live.

But I also miss the Australia that could put on a show like that unironically. 18-year-old me loved it then, and I still do now. But my kids, everything's a meme for them, but I reckon they are missing out.

 

[OnceWeWereKings]

Why don’t they do local talent…

Kiss ffs

Yep, I’m up for another dose of Tones & I, G-Flip? & Baker Boy.
Worth the price of admission alone.

 

[BigFrizz36]

Yep, I’m up for another dose of Tones & I, G-Flip? & Baker Boy.
Worth the price of admission alone.

Kiss are doing 3 songs pre game. The Aussie stuff is at half time but the line up hasn't been announced yet apparently.

 

[David Sylvian]

Meatloaf was iconic too.
Has disaster written all over it !

The loaf, what a performance, any time You want a chuckle read the YouTube comments. Hahahaha

 

[Canyouhearthedrums]

I just read an article suggesting Sydney's offer to Ben McKay

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would be enough to trigger band 1 comp and they'll get pick 3. That's ****ING mental.

 

[thylacine60]

I just read an article suggesting Sydney's offer to Ben McKay would be enough to trigger band 1 comp and they'll get pick 3. That's ****ing mental.

Heard that. When will North officially have the AA side? At least when Geelong had 8 in the AA team it was a mix of great trading, drafting, recruiting and lucking out with F/Ss.

 

[Sector 7G]

I just read an article suggesting Sydney's offer to Ben McKay would be enough to trigger band 1 comp and they'll get pick 3. That's ****ing mental.

Seems like he is getting $800K for 5 years which is about the same as Weiters. On that basis pick 3 seems about the right compensation. Losing him will mean they have no AFL standard key defenders next year. Need to go hard at the best mature defenders in the 2nd tier leagues.

 

[thylacine60]

I seriously have never seen it with Ben Mckay

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Ben Mckay

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27

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202cm

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104kg

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2.7

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1.7

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77.2

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7.5

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4.5

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3.0

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2.5

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88.5

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3.4

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3.6

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2.4

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2.0

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67.8

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. Plenty of North supporters feel similarly and are rapt to see what they can get for him.

 

[Ezayyak]

Lucky Harry signed long term or else I reckon we would have done a David Kernahan and brought Ben over to get Harry's signature...

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

I just read an article suggesting Sydney's offer to Ben McKay would be enough to trigger band 1 comp and they'll get pick 3. That's ****ing mental.

Top compo pick ‘likely scenario’ for Roos; Freo asking price for departing Docker: Trade Whispers

$800k Swans swoop set to boost Roos’ mega draft hand; Docker’s price revealed: Trade Whispers

www.foxsports.com.au

Was always on the cards.

The AFL did it to Melbourne years ago with band 1 compo for Frawley..

At the end of the year, the AFL need to change the band 1 pick formula so it doesn't come within the first top 10 picks of the draft

 

[Blue__Balls]

Top compo pick ‘likely scenario’ for Roos; Freo asking price for departing Docker: Trade Whispers

$800k Swans swoop set to boost Roos’ mega draft hand; Docker’s price revealed: Trade Whispers

www.foxsports.com.au

Was always on the cards.

The AFL did it to Melbourne years ago with band 1 compo for Frawley..

At the end of the year, the AFL need to change the band 1 pick formula so it doesn't come within the first top 10 picks of the draft

Agreed.

Band 1 should be after all the non-finalists first round picks (ie. Pick 11)
Band 2 should be after all first round picks (ie. Pick 19)
Band 3 should be after all the non-finalists second round picks (ie. Pick 29)
Band 4 should be after all second round picks (ie. Pick 37)
etc.

Just use the relative ladder positions to determine order of picks within a given band, not the picks themselves. If multiple clubs trigger Band 1 compo then the lower placed club should pick first, then the higher placed club. It's "fairer", while still incorporating some preferential treatment of lower placed clubs.

 

[Bletch]

Get rid of bands altogether. Determine a points value based on age; contract length; contract amount. Have a second loading formula based on ladder position of the club losing the player. Apply that to get a final point value. Provide the club with a pick based on the points value.

 

[Canyouhearthedrums]

I seriously have never seen it with Ben Mckay. Plenty of North supporters feel similarly and are rapt to see what they can get for him.

Exactly. My confusion is that losing Ben McKay nets you pick 3. What’s he worth in a straight up trade? 2nd rounder?

 

[Canyouhearthedrums]

Top compo pick ‘likely scenario’ for Roos; Freo asking price for departing Docker: Trade Whispers

$800k Swans swoop set to boost Roos’ mega draft hand; Docker’s price revealed: Trade Whispers

www.foxsports.com.au

Was always on the cards.

The AFL did it to Melbourne years ago with band 1 compo for Frawley..

At the end of the year, the AFL need to change the band 1 pick formula so it doesn't come within the first top 10 picks of the draft

It would be easy to tie Band 1 to performance as well as contract. Like you only get band 1 if the contract terms meet certain thresholds AND the player has been AA. And then make band 1 top 5 or something.

I’m not anti the system overall, and I think ladder position should matter (ie it should favour weaker teams who lose players). But pick 3 for Ben McKay feels nuts

 

[Sector 7G]

It would be easy to tie Band 1 to performance as well as contract. Like you only get band 1 if the contract terms meet certain thresholds AND the player has been AA. And then make band 1 top 5 or something.

I’m not anti the system overall, and I think ladder position should matter (ie it should favour weaker teams who lose players). But pick 3 for Ben McKay feels nuts

$800k for 5 years is nuts. As much as Weiters. Losing McKay will make North poor till they can get a decent replacement.

 

[Stamos]

Get rid of bands altogether. Determine a points value based on age; contract length; contract amount. Have a second loading formula based on ladder position of the club losing the player. Apply that to get a final point value. Provide the club with a pick based on the points value.

They should just get rid of compensation completely.
2 clubs get something and 16 clubs get punished. It's a terrible system.

 

[Broadside]

It's only right that a struggling club like North get compensated for losing McKay






after we get compensated for Jarrod Waite

 

[Revenant1965]

They should just get rid of compensation completely.
2 clubs get something and 16 clubs get punished. It's a terrible system.

Agree. I've wondered why AFL just doesn't 'compensate' in allowing club losing a player to have more freedom in salary cap to go for FA at a time suitable to them. Say NM offered B.Mackay $700,000 p.a., why can't they defer some salary cap for up to say 2 years (so pay around say 90% of salary cap next year and year after if they choose), effectively 'bank that', and then go for a FA next year or the year after (and being able to pay above salary cap then).

 

[Stamos]

Agree. I've wondered why AFL just doesn't 'compensate' in allowing club losing a player to have more freedom in salary cap to go for FA at a time suitable to them. Say NM offered B.Mackay $700,000 p.a., why can't they defer some salary cap for up to say 2 years (so pay around say 90% of salary cap next year and year after if they choose), effectively 'bank that', and then go for a FA next year or the year after (and being able to pay above salary cap then).

The 95% cap floor is a terrible rule.