Rumour GFC 2022 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists PT2

[Sire of Claude]

On Cam Mack's highlights reel he does an extraordinary gather and blind turn in the middle of a busy pack , which, in my view, marks him as a superior talent.

But I do expect the Cats to take Clark if available, which will make JTG happy and me too should Clark emerge as another Bartel. The challenge though is that, judged by some criteria, such as ability to deliver under extreme pressure, Bartel was close to the greatest Cats player ever.

 

[Gee Class Loco]

Bruhn is far better. Why? Cause he is now at Geelong and CS and Haw player. LOL. ( he probably plays well Easter Monday against us)

Copper Stephens is gone... he either will or wont at haw. I liked him and wished we had found a way to ply him instead of the wasted games on Higgins...but its done. How he goes at Haw will be noteworthy but irrelevant to me cause with list management you win some you lose some ... players come players go.

I liked him too(CS)... But reality is he showed bugger all for a call up.
The hype over the Falcon product prior to the draft looking back gives me the hebegebees.
I was second guessing myself on what i saw to what people talked of what we were getting.
B.U.S.T. is the word that comes to mind.

 

[Lana]

I liked him too(CS)... But reality is he showed bugger all for a call up.
The hype over the Falcon product prior to the draft looking back gives me the hebegebees.
I was second guessing myself on what i saw to what people talked of what we were getting.
B.U.S.T. is the word that comes to mind.

The fact of the matter is that the gap between making it and not can be very small.

18 teams, 4 inside mids playing per week. Leaves only 72 spots per week competition wide. Each team might have 10 players trying to get into those spots. While some of those will have the ability to play somewhere else if they miss out, not all do.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

Couple of things.

Cal mentioned today on SEN that the cats also really like Cam McKenzie with our first pick.

Highlights always look good. There is a game on Fox where Phillipou cops a hiding and does absolutely stuff all. Jordan Murdoch

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Jordan Murdoch

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32

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190cm

Wt

87kg

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Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.9

4star

K

8.3

3star

HB

5.6

4star

M

3.5

4star

T

3.4

5star

MG

273.3

4star

No current season stats available

D

13.8

4star

K

8.2

4star

HB

5.6

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.0

5star

has a great set of highlights as well. Not down on Phillipou but we all fall into the trap of watching a clip and assuming that is done consistently

How anybody could compare Cooper Stephens and Bruhn is beyond me. Apart from all the categories where Bruhn is ahead the major thing is Bruhn has positional flexibility. If he doesn’t make it he can always find another position (Fwd Flank). If Stephens fails as an inside mid he’s done. Stephens has just never played and like a lot of injured players people just hope that it’s masked a hidden gem. Fools gold. For every Selwood there’s a Cockatoo, Lang, Mitch Brown, Cooper Stephens even Travy Varcoe to a slight change extent ( he was a very solid player). Wells loves an underage injury. We were all over Georgiades and Stringer as well

Said it about a month back, Mackenzie feels very Wells to me.

The club seems to have an affinity for players with blonde hair in recent years, so that's where my analysis ends.

 

[Turbocat]

I liked him too(CS)... But reality is he showed bugger all for a call up.
The hype over the Falcon product prior to the draft looking back gives me the hebegebees.
I was second guessing myself on what i saw to what people talked of what we were getting.
B.U.S.T. is the word that comes to mind.

To debate it more is wasted effort. He could have played instead of Higgins and we would have had more data at the real level. Now he is at Haw..we will see what he has in a different system.

 

[Hamingja]

I liked him too(CS)... But reality is he showed bugger all for a call up.
The hype over the Falcon product prior to the draft looking back gives me the hebegebees.
I was second guessing myself on what i saw to what people talked of what we were getting.
B.U.S.T. is the word that comes to mind.

I didn't want him pre draft just because of the injury. As it turned out though everyone around that pick was injured. Stephens, Kemp, Georgiades went in succession. Two busts, one hit for the injured trio. I think most people on the night wanted Deven Robertson and while better than Cooper doesn't appear to be anything other than an honest battler himself.

 

[Turbocat]

If Clark + Ginbey go to GC and Hawks... That would mean that probably Humprey or Tsatas will be available to select.

if thats the case ..I hope we take the bear.

 

[Turbocat]

I didn't want him pre draft just because of the injury. As it turned out though everyone around that pick was injured. Stephens, Kemp, Georgiades went in succession. Two busts, one hit for the injured trio. I think most people on the night wanted Deven Robertson and while better than Cooper doesn't appear to be anything other than honest battler himself.

Its a fair point... id say if all re did that choices ...Sam Dek would be off the board well before 19

 

[Turbocat]

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/draft/afl-draft-news-essendon-nominates-anthony-munkara-as-next-generation-academy-prospect/news-story/73889d2e5aaab688f1c462a9ec6101d8

DONS DRAFT DOMINO TO SHAPE TOP 10​

Essendon is set to shape the top-10 of this month’s draft with their prized selection at pick four the domino that can shake up the order.

As has been the case in previous years with the notoriously cryptic Bombers, those in the draft space are finding it difficult to get a read on who they will take with their first pick – which will be at No. 5 after Will Ashcroft’s expected bid inside the first two selections.

Five midfielders – Elijah Tsatas, Mattaes Phillipou, Reuben Ginbey, Bailey Humphrey and recently Elijah Hewett – have been linked to the Bombers’ prized pick.

Essendon has shown strong interest in South Australian Phillipou, a dynamic 190cm prospect who is the son of former Bulldog Sam, with the club interviewing him three times in the lead-up.

Top South Australian AFL draft prospect Mattaes Phillipou, with his dad, Sam, and grandfather, Peter, who are both former Eagles. Picture: Dean Martin
The midfielder-forward would bring something different to their midfield mix with his height, composure in traffic and his capacity to be used in attack.

Tsatas has been billed as a top-five selection throughout the year despite sitting out most of the year with injury, with the ball magnet adding inside skills his damaging outside game in a stellar season where he won Oakleigh Chargers’ best and fairest from just five matches.

But the 187cm midfielder could be as a potential slider in the top 10 if the Bombers look elsewhere, with the Bombers’ selection poised to have a significant say on what happens next.

Geelong Falcons prospect Jhye Clark has been strongly linked to Geelong’s selection, while West Australian youngster Ginbey is unlikely to get past West Coast’s selection (pick nine after Ashcroft bid), with the athletic midfielder also linked to both Essendon and Gold Coast.

Humphrey, who bolted into top-10 calculations with his game-breaking feats as a powerful midfielder and dangerous forward, is expected to be taken anywhere from the Bombers’ selection to Carlton’s at pick 11.

 

[Kitcat]

What with this assumption that all good players that we like (Geelong boys) we will miss out on will come back to Geelong after 2 years. Pure fantasy most players stay put at least till after their second contract ends. But most historically have stayed out for their career…..

Well you never know with Stephens as this is an unusual situation.
How many first round selections of a local player who breaks into the team but doesn’t hold his spot in what becomes a premiership team, praised by Danger and leaves at the last minute to help our Henry trade, who goes to a club which will be down for many years, have we had?

 

[Boxhead_31]

I just hope everyone is prepared for when Wells selects someone no-one has mentioned in the previous 200pages at pick 7

 

[Turbocat]

I just hope everyone is prepared for when Wells selects someone no-one has mentioned in the previous 200pages at pick 7

How often has he done that with a top10 pick? I think we would have to go back 20 years to Mackie..maybe.

 

[year of the cat]

I just hope everyone is prepared for when Wells selects someone no-one has mentioned in the previous 200pages at pick 7

"With pick 7, Geelong Football Club select.....Josh Cowan"

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Cam Mckenzie, remind me quite a bit of Cam Guthrie

I made that comparison a few weeks ago re clark and guthrie but it also applies to mckenzie both are very safe picks (clark and mckenzie) that have low bust potential and not a lot that can go wrong with them.

 

[Lana]

"With pick 7, Geelong Football Club select.....Josh Cowan"

Genius, we'd lull them into a full sense of security so we can pull off a Wells special with our late pick

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I just hope everyone is prepared for when Wells selects someone no-one has mentioned in the previous 200pages at pick 7

That happens at pick 16 it wont at 7..theres about 5 or 6 players that could be pick 7 and we all know who they are.

 

[Lana]

I made that comparison a few weeks ago re clark and guthrie but it also applies to mckenzie both are very safe picks (clark and mckenzie) that have low bust potential and not a lot that can go wrong with them.

Clark reminded me way more of the inside mid version Caddy, using his body as a battering ram to clear the ball through congestion.

 

[Johnny Cattery]

I watched the GF again yesterday... and tried to see where we have could fit in. To me I could see Clark doing all that Joel did. Maybe Bruhn to but we just have not seen enough of him on ball at afl level. That will come in our system. Henry is harder to find a spot if Rohan is still motivated. His pace is still so good. Finding a spot JB will be interesting. I could see him playing a Duncan role ..a bit all over the place. Holmes comes in as well

... and I could not see where CS would have played ..or would have played going forward now.

Yeah ... nah.

Selwood's athleticism got overlooked because of his battering ram inside work; had he stayed outside, his speed and evasive skills and poise and game sense and distribution could have put him into the stratosphere - that is, if the game gave due respect to outside players.
To take the milliseconds of the grand final goal as an example: the will and the preparedness to take the hit make it at once exceptional, and typical of Selwood; but the skill and the strength and the kinaesthetic awareness that are the execution are off the charts.

I can imagine Clark might have leadership, determination, and grunt in spades; but someone whose movements are sinuous and balanced, not just powerful ... no, I don't see that in Clark. Elijah from WA, on the other hand ...

 

[Johnny Cattery]

Cam Mckenzie, remind me quite a bit of Cam Guthrie

It raises a larger question that doesn't get sufficient attention in this thread.

I do get the appeal of recruiting Tomcats, but three in a team is verging on too many. We came out the other side of the flood of Jordans, but have flirted and are flirting with an excess of Garys, Zac(h)s & Isaacs, Sams, Mitches, and Marks.

Bring on the Gryans, please.

 

[Farmer2Goggin]

Yeah ... nah.

Selwood's athleticism got overlooked because of his battering ram inside work; had he stayed outside, his speed and evasive skills and poise and game sense and distribution could have put him into the stratosphere - that is, if the game gave due respect to outside players.
To take the milliseconds of the grand final goal as an example: the will and the preparedness to take the hit make it at once exceptional, and typical of Selwood; but the skill and the strength and the kinaesthetic awareness that are the execution are off the charts.

I can imagine Clark might have leadership, determination, and grunt in spades; but someone whose movements are sinuous and balanced, not just powerful ... no, I don't see that in Clark. Elijah from WA, on the other hand ...

Good pick up Johnny Cattery - caught up with a few guys who were all over the U18 champs - a couple rated Hewett as the most talented of the WA crop with a very high ceiling. Keeping his head in the game consistently seemed to be the only knock but that could be sorted in a professional program ?

 

[Lana]

It raises a larger question that doesn't get sufficient attention in this thread.

I do get the appeal of recruiting Tomcats, but three in a team is verging on too many. We came out the other side of the flood of Jordans, but have flirted and are flirting with an excess of Garys, Zac(h)s & Isaacs, Sams, Mitches, and Marks.

Bring on the Gryans, please.

So the only reason I had been picked last was that my name was too generic

 

[Turbocat]

Yeah ... nah.

Selwood's athleticism got overlooked because of his battering ram inside work; had he stayed outside, his speed and evasive skills and poise and game sense and distribution could have put him into the stratosphere - that is, if the game gave due respect to outside players.
To take the milliseconds of the grand final goal as an example: the will and the preparedness to take the hit make it at once exceptional, and typical of Selwood; but the skill and the strength and the kinaesthetic awareness that are the execution are off the charts.

I can imagine Clark might have leadership, determination, and grunt in spades; but someone whose movements are sinuous and balanced, not just powerful ... no, I don't see that in Clark. Elijah from WA, on the other hand ...

Yeah ... nah.

He reminds me of lot of players that have come and gone. If he can cope with a professional environment then he will be a player.

 

[Boxhead_31]

How often has he done that with a top10 pick? I think we would have to go back 20 years to Mackie..maybe.

Cockatoo

 

[Turbocat]

"With pick 7, Geelong Football Club select.....Josh Cowan"

The player that resonates a Wells stealth bomb

With pick 7, Haw Football Club select.....Jhye clark

With pick 8, Geelong Football Club select.....Ed Allan

 

[Turbocat]

Cockatoo

No he was talked about and in fact was rushed to to draft night..