Rumour GFC 2024 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 2

[cats_09]

Ask and we'll try our best to assist - so here's 2024 Provisional AFL Draft Order

As normal, would like to acknowledge & thank Lore for creating this, keeping it up to date and making it available for all users on BF to use and keep track of the picks ahead of the upcoming draft





I'll also sticky this post to ensure it's easily accessible for discussion of our hypothetical trader


Also,

2024 Free Agency Period​

The AFL introduced free agency at the end of the 2012 season, giving players another vehicle where they can transfer from one club to another. Free agency is a common form of player movement in major football and sporting codes around the world.

Free Agency Opens: Friday October 4 at 9.00am
Free Agency Closes: Friday October 11 at 5.00pm

Continental Tyres AFL Trade Period​

Trade Period Opens: Monday October 7 at 9.00am
Trade Period Closes: Wednesday October 16 at 7.30pm

 

[year of the cat]

They will trade him for a late pick after a lot of back and forth over how much of the contract they pay. They probably only want to pay 250-300 a year (like grundy and coll) but we probably want them to pay more.

I don’t think it will be that straightforward. I think it will require at least our FF. Could be wrong. If it gets to that stage which is no certainty just yet.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Lol Dan hannebery is a moron.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I don’t think it will be that straightforward. I think it will require at least our FF. Could be wrong. If it gets to that stage which is no certainty just yet.

Future first? No chance. Board will never sign off on that with the risks Clayton has and the 8mil or more contract. There won't be any top 30 picks involved if we do it (and I'm sure Melbourne know that). It will either be late picks or they will keep him.

 

[year of the cat]

Future first? No chance. Board will never sign off on that with the risks Clayton has and the 8mil or more contract. There won't be any top 30 picks involved if we do it (and I'm sure Melbourne know that). It will either be late picks or they will keep him.

I hope you are right about being able to get him cheap.

 

[Klink]

Well this has taken our minds off Bailey Smith

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[Pure_Ownage]

I hope you are right about being able to get him cheap.

That would be the only way we would do it. Unless they are paying 500k or more (which I can't see happening) they won't get a first rounder for him. The contract makes it too difficult. I still don't want to do it even for a r3 but I accept we might.

 

[D BRIDGE]

If the Dees do actually want Oliver out and have been shopping him around behind his back, they can’t stand firm on keeping him unless they get a R1 for him.

If they want him out, they have almost zero leverage.

This Dee’s club is soooo bad atm.

Absolutely monkeys running it.

I feel they need to move him on and get it over with or this will carry on for years.

 

[Zouz Kitty]

OLIVER dependant on 2 things for mine.

• Melbourne swallowing a bit of pride, thinking the version of Oliver they will be getting is not worth the grief, moving on with a later pick and paying a small portion, say $200k

• Geelong convincing Oliver to take a slight pay cut, performance based taking a more holistic approach to getting his life back on track.

Basically we get him for a token pick and a potential wage of 6-900k over six years. I don’t think we should be throwing everything at him, must be a WIN-win for us however it plays out.

Worth a throw at the stumps.

Agree on bolded. Although, I’m going harder on MFC + Oliver.

Include/indulge my complete lack of trading knowledge. Am purely assessing a sensible + practical approach. Sensible to me.

What portion of Oliver’s contract is based on performance?

If MFC sack or delist Oliver must the contract be paid in full?

Token pick yes.

Thinking laterally.

Geelong agrees to pay $200k on condition Oliver performs to a certain level, but consideration given to adjusting in first year at Geelong. After Year 1, if Oliver fails to perform (excluding injury) $200k reduces (to be negotiated).

If Oliver joins Geelong, a pay cut is nonnegotiable. As said, give him a year to settle in. A contract for two years with increases according to performance. Contract extensions with base salary increases + performance increases.

Yes, I’m a tough, old school woman.


Note: Oliver’s hand injury is considered + it’s Geelong’s risk.

EDIT: I do believe in second chances

 

[dangerwood]

So his not interested in going to the cats then, ok into the next rumour…

I don't know the current state of play and whether Geelong are now the ones pursuing Oliver but it was Oliver who originally indicated to Geelong that he wants to play for them.

 

[cats_09]

I don’t think it will be that straightforward. I think it will require at least our FF. Could be wrong. If it gets to that stage which is no certainty just yet.

Are they paying 75% of his salary for the remaining years of his contract?

 

[year of the cat]

Are they paying 75% of his salary for the remaining years of his contract?

Regardless he won’t be traded for a packet of chips.

 

[Zouz Kitty]

We've got Conway

We do

How could I forget Toby?

 

[fpm84]

Tom Morris saying future first would get Oliver.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I have no idea how it works, but could Oliver opt to re-negotiate his contract in order to get out of Melbourne? Or is that just flat out not an option. Forgive my ignorance.

He could but he'd be giving up over a million dollars

 

[goyoucatters]

Regardless he won’t be traded for a packet of chips.

Fair enough.

How about two packets, though?

 

[cats_09]

Melbourne fans adamant that Oliver is going no where

 

[JPod_31]

 

[supahoops]

Agree on bolded. Although, I’m going harder on MFC + Oliver.

Include/indulge my complete lack of trading knowledge. Am purely assessing a sensible + practical approach. Sensible to me.

What portion of Oliver’s contract is based on performance?

If MFC sack or delist Oliver must the contract be paid in full?

Token pick yes.

Thinking laterally.

Geelong agrees to pay $200k on condition Oliver performs to a certain level, but consideration given to adjusting in first year at Geelong. After Year 1, if Oliver fails to perform (excluding injury) $200k reduces (to be negotiated).

If Oliver joins Geelong, a pay cut is nonnegotiable. As said, give him a year to settle in. A contract for two years with increases according to performance. Contract extensions with base salary increases + performance increases.

Yes, I’m a tough, old school woman.


Note: Oliver’s hand injury is considered + it’s Geelong’s risk.

Not sure he has any performance based clauses at Melbourne but definitely should if we take him. That’s on him. We need a deal where we can cut him loose and not lose a minutes sleep.

 

[D BRIDGE]

Melbourne fans adamant that Oliver is going no where

And he very well could stay their and have another shocking year.

It could go either way this one.

 

[Mad_Hatter]

If we got both Smith and Oliver then say hello to your next back to back Premiers.
I'd happily trade this years first and second, and next years first and second for both, even with steak knives included.

 

[Willo_]

Melbourne fans adamant that Oliver is going no where

with most things trade related, fans are literally the last people anyone should listen to

current forum included, we are all just talking about what we want to see happen, not what actually might happen

 

[Willo_]

Lol Dan hannebery is a moron.

Everything is for sale for the right price...

 

[Commando]

Not surprised.

Right offer comes then we should accept it.

Correct
Very few players aren't gettable at the end of the day
Everyone has a price

 

[cats_09]

Everything is for sale for the right price...

IF Sam says he wants to look at his options in terms of a trade, and an interested club came to us with 2 x first round picks for SDK, including a top 10 pick, surely serious consideration is giving to it

 

[Zouz Kitty]

Exactly, one shows a weakness or a habit and is a disregard or abuse of ones self (i.e. physical health, mental stability, bank account).
The other is a disrespect / disregard and a lack of care of the damage one does to others around them as long as their perceived 'needs' are met.

Huge difference IMO

Alcoholism, gambling, drug addiction etc are illnesses.

Boofing another’s partner is a choice, but it takes two to tango.

Hypersexuality can stem from mental health implications. Read an article this morning about those with ADHD, who experience difficulties with impulse control, executive functioning + self-regulation, potentially contributing to an increased risk of engaging in impulsive or dangerous behaviours, including hypersexuality.