Rumour GFC 2024 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 3

[Lana]

Think he is in the NFL as the New Orleans Saints punter now.

Now that is a Wells special

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Good people of BigFooty, I'd like to introduce henjo

A subtle reminder that anonymous internet people are sometimes not the best source for information on draftees

 

[D BRIDGE]

The system is fine just the values are crazy.

You'll know the values are right when clubs are only willing to do trades pretty close to what the value says and not give up twice as many points in late picks for one earlier pick.

I agree... system is fine... DVI is terrible.

They are changing the DVI points next year I believe (should of happened years ago).

Looks like the Lions got Levi just in time.

In saying that... other clubs not making certain teams pay top value for players hasn't helped.

So some teams get a player bid on for later than they probably would go in an open draft + they can get the player with a bunch of later picks in the 40s ++ they also get a 20% discount on top of that... Bargain!

Good country Australia.

 

[Vdubs]

I agree... system is fine... DVI is terrible.

They are changing the DVI points next year I believe (should of happened years ago).

Looks like the Lions got Levi just in time.

In saying that... other clubs not making certain teams pay top value for players hasn't helped.

So some teams get a player bid on for later than they probably would go in an open draft + they can get the player with a bunch of later picks in the 40s ++ they also get a 20% discount on top of that... Bargain!

Good country Australia.

The best

 

[geelong_crazy26]

The best

Unfortunately insanely expensive real estate for the pups coming through now. Feel like i will have to buy my kids a home the way things are going in aus

 

[Lana]

If we get 1 b22 player out of this draft i will call it a win.

Having b smith b22 with pick 17 is already a win from the draft

Good time to be drafted, especially as a tall,

 

[ShadowCat]

If we get 1 b22 player out of this draft i will call it a win.

Having b smith b22 with pick 17 is already a win from the draft

I think we'll end up with at least 3. KMF, Hofmann and Polkinghorne all look to have attributes that suit the modern game. Retschko is a good size and a machine runner already. Comes down to development when considering Pike, Molier, Ivisic and Burke, for mine. The others are much more 'ready-made', in a sense.

As you say though, Smith for 17 is absurd, and means everything else is just icing from the draft.

 

[moond0g]

"Under AFLW rules, a side must have a pick within 18 selections of where a bid is placed to match it and gain access to their Academy and/or father-daughter product."

Would be insane to get a Pick 1 player using just Pick 19.

The above quote to me doesn't suggest it would be pick 19 as a one and done to match pick 1. It just means that at least one of the picks you match the bid with have to come within the next 18 picks. i.e., if Brisbane match an Ashcroft bid at pick 5 (~1800 points), they would have had to use their original pick 18 (~1000 points) and then also make up the difference with later selections. In combination with lowering the points value of later picks, which they're bringing in next year, I think this could be a pretty viable solution.

 

[iameviljez]

The above quote to me doesn't suggest it would be pick 19 as a one and done to match pick 1. It just means that at least one of the picks you match the bid with have to come within the next 18 picks. i.e., if Brisbane match an Ashcroft bid at pick 5 (~1800 points), they would have had to use their original pick 18 (~1000 points) and then also make up the difference with later selections. In combination with lowering the points value of later picks, which they're bringing in next year, I think this could be a pretty viable solution.

ahhh yes, I get ya. Thanks moond0g

 

[catswhiskers]

The above quote to me doesn't suggest it would be pick 19 as a one and done to match pick 1. It just means that at least one of the picks you match the bid with have to come within the next 18 picks. i.e., if Brisbane match an Ashcroft bid at pick 5 (~1800 points), they would have had to use their original pick 18 (~1000 points) and then also make up the difference with later selections. In combination with lowering the points value of later picks, which they're bringing in next year, I think this could be a pretty viable solution.

That works.

 

[BORIS332]

I think we'll end up with at least 3. KMF, Hofmann and Polkinghorne all look to have attributes that suit the modern game. Retschko is a good size and a machine runner already. Comes down to development when considering Pike, Molier, Ivisic and Burke, for mine. The others are much more 'ready-made', in a sense.

As you say though, Smith for 17 is absurd, and means everything else is just icing from the draft.

Not saying you're wrong, but since 2015 draft (past 10 years) we've only really had 1 player from each draft hit 50 games. The exception being 2016 when we took Stewart, J.Henry, Parfitt and Z.Guthrie. It's probably unlikely that we buck that trend, especially in a year where we had a very poor draft hand.

 

[Lana]

Not saying you're wrong, but since 2015 draft (past 10 years) we've only really had 1 player from each draft hit 50 games. The exception being 2016 when we took Stewart, J.Henry, Parfitt and Z.Guthrie. It's probably unlikely that we buck that trend, especially in a year where we had a very poor draft hand.

Imo opportunity is a more important factor than draft hand, the "Waiting for the cliff" phenomena

 

[Footy Smarts]

Not saying you're wrong, but since 2015 draft (past 10 years) we've only really had 1 player from each draft hit 50 games. The exception being 2016 when we took Stewart, J.Henry, Parfitt and Z.Guthrie. It's probably unlikely that we buck that trend, especially in a year where we had a very poor draft hand.

I doubt we'll get 3 quality players from this draft but we've done better than 1 per year despite trading a lot of draft capital and having no really early picks.

From the 2015-2023 drafts we took Menegola, Parfitt, Stewart, Ratugolea, Narkle, J Henry, Z Guthrie, O'Connor (cat B), Fogarty, Kelly, Miers, Jordan Clark, Atkins, SDK, Close, Holmes, Neale, Dempsey, Mannagh and Humphries who are either already there or look almost certain to get to 50 games. That's already 20 in 9 drafts.

There's also guys like Clark, Conway, Mullin and O'Sullivan who would be better than 50% chance to make it. Then Edwards, Knevitt, Clohesy, Stevens and Wiltshire as outside chances. So we'll probably be looking at over 2.5 per draft once everyone's finished their careers.

 

[Gazza Greatness]

I doubt we'll get 3 quality players from this draft but we've done better than 1 per year despite trading a lot of draft capital and having no really early picks.

From the 2015-2023 drafts we took Menegola, Parfitt, Stewart, Ratugolea, Narkle, J Henry, Z Guthrie, O'Connor (cat B), Fogarty, Kelly, Miers, Jordan Clark, Atkins, SDK, Close, Holmes, Neale, Dempsey, Mannagh and Humphries who are either already there or look almost certain to get to 50 games. That's already 20 in 9 drafts.

There's also guys like Clark, Conway, Mullin and O'Sullivan who would be better than 50% chance to make it. Then Edwards, Knevitt, Clohesy, Stevens and Wiltshire as outside chances. So we'll probably be looking at over 2.5 per draft once everyone's finished their careers.

That's pretty close to the mark Footy Smarts, so well done there for following those names through but when you think about it, it had to be that way for us to still be a top side. Quiet a feat by all concerned down at the Cattery but especially to the recruiters and development coaches, bloody hell we're so lucky to be following this club....... and GO CATS 2025

 

[00VicWard001]

Anyone know where Brandon Parfitt ended up?

 

[Stocks_go_Up]

Anyone know where Brandon Parfitt ended up?

WAFL 2024: Perth sign former Geelong premiership speedster Brandan Parfitt on two-year deal.

Not sure why they are calling him a speedster though.

 

[Lana]

Anyone know where Brandon Parfitt ended up?

Demons sign Geelong premiership speedster in huge WAFL coup

Perth have landed arguably the signing coup this off-season with Geelong premiership star Brandan Parfitt signing a two-year deal at the club.

thewest.com.au

He has a had a good offseason and gained some pace

 

[Goggin Our Best]

WAFL 2024: Perth sign former Geelong premiership speedster Brandan Parfitt on two-year deal.

Not sure why they are calling him a speedster though.

Who has won the jackpot poker hand

Carlton got Smedts Lang and Fogarty

Perth got Constable Simpson and Parfitt

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Midfield class is probably still a concern albeit bringing Smith in should help. Still feel that unless Clark, Bruhn and Knevitt really go to another level then we will need to continue to add in this area. Particularly with Dangerfield in his last couple of years.

Not a concern for mine. They're a dime a dozen and can easily be picked off when needed at trade/FA time.
It'll take care of itself in time.

 

[BORIS332]

Now that the draft/trade period is done and dusted, where do we see our immediate list deficiencies?

We seemed to have addressed our lack of ruck depth with Mollier and Pike.

Midfield class is probably still a concern albeit bringing Smith in should help. Still feel that unless Clark, Bruhn and Knevitt really go to another level then we will need to continue to add in this area. Particularly with Dangerfield in his last couple of years.

Another key forward is probably needed if you don’t think Edwards or Mollier will play that role. Polkinghorne looks a good addition and may work with Henry and Neale. We’ll see. He looks to have a frame that can add size quickly so might get games earlier than expected.

Feel like Bruhn is almost there. Maybe not 2025, but soon. Knevitt I’m worried about.

 

[And_ROOS]

Feel like Bruhn is almost there. Maybe not 2025, but soon. Knevitt I’m worried about.

I actually think should he have an injury free preseason next season we see him go up a gear.
If he does that, at worst he becomes a key midfielder for us and an important rotation in the middle that significantly contributes (think Cam Guthrie as Bruhn this year is tracking very closely to Cam at the same age), and at best he has a Holmes like season in a position we desperately need it.

 

[catswhiskers]

Feel like Bruhn is almost there. Maybe not 2025, but soon. Knevitt I’m worried about.

At Deakin yesterday, the only player in training who was working separately (while I was there) was Bruhn.

Running the boundary with two staffers as pacers.

Just a glimpse, but it seems the club is working on his major deficiency.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Demons sign Geelong premiership speedster in huge WAFL coup

Perth have landed arguably the signing coup this off-season with Geelong premiership star Brandan Parfitt signing a two-year deal at the club.

thewest.com.au

He has a had a good offseason and gained some pace

Real tradgedy that no club wanted to have a look at him and a bigger tradgedy his career went this pathway.

Always had huge hopes for him since his debut season. His zip n zag in contests as a junior was elite and he showed huge promise his debut AFL year.

I feel more than anything he became a victim of changing times in the AFL. Modern game is more about impact and distance gained per possession, where someone like parfitt brings very little to the table in that sort of environment.

 

[Gazza Greatness]

Real tradgedy that no club wanted to have a look at him and a bigger tradgedy his career went this pathway.

Always had huge hopes for him since his debut season. His zip n zag in contests as a junior was elite and he showed huge promise his debut AFL year.

I feel more than anything he became a victim of changing times in the AFL. Modern game is more about impact and distance gained per possession, where someone like parfitt brings very little to the table in that sort of environment.

Agree that Brendan Parfitt should have gone on a been an excellent AFL player, I was a 'big fan' but he brought it on himself with his disposal deficiency both by hand and foot. Just never improved in that area, in fact he got worse which shouldn't have happened as most players in time improve in that area. But with Brendan that was his major weakness from the get go, yet not only didn't he improve but he got worse with some of his disappointing turnovers in 2024 were so, so poor and would make you pull your hair out, even in the ressies.

In conclusion, I seen Brendan Parfitt as a Sam Mitchell type of player which initially was quite exciting with being ultra tough at ball and in tight and also elusive but unfortunately Brendan lacked Sam's polish and skills by a 'large degree' when it came to finishing off his work by hand and foot.

 

[Oisin_the_Goat]

Real tradgedy that no club wanted to have a look at him and a bigger tradgedy his career went this pathway.

Wouldn't exactly call him a speedster!