Review Good/Bad vs Sydney

[MsTopG]

I'm going to say no. Nicks was riding Tex's coattails this year and I don’t think it's reasonable to assume Walker will dominate again in 2024.

We blew a real opportunity this year and I blame Nicks for running our team into the ground with his s**t selections.

His personality of no risk ended up with no finals. I hope he realises that he cost us finals.

 

[CrowBloke]

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We've had 7 losses and 1 win in games decided by 16 points or less. A somewhat arbitrary cut off but still quite lopsided.

Interesting stats tell a sorry tale of a coulda-been-contenders season .

5-1 in games decided by a goal or less.

In those 5 losses we had more scoring shots than the opposition, so
--- either the oppo should be given credit for pressure, forcing errors
--- or the Crows generally miss a lot of gettable set shots in tight games (<== I think it's mostly this).

Set-shot goalkicking is a basic skill; Footy 101.
Yesterday, there were at least FIVE set shots within 35-40metres, some closer, that either missed or didn't make the distance (Tex twice, Thilthorpe, McAdam, Fogarty, and probably more).
Keays' goal/"point" aside, any one of those would have won us the game .

 

[MRB37]

Anything from Gil or Dillon yet?

Dermie and Mooney teeing off

WATCH: Derm needs just one replay of THAT 'hit the post' to be convinced the Crows were 'robbed'

"They won!"

www.theroar.com.au

AFL stood down the goal umpire for the rest of the year, Gil will say it should have been called a mistake, umpire made an error and that's the end of it.

 

[Crow_Magnon]

Rinse and repeat

Another game lost by under a goal

That’s 5 games this year

They can’t keep rolling out the message @we will learn from this”

We are not learning our lessons


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Yep, Matthew LLoyd said a few weeks back that he'd watched Collingwood train over the summer for exactly these circumstances...i.e. match simulations where the scores were either level or close, and working out options to see how to win these close ones. That said...that clear cheating by the goal umpire is mostly responsible for us not making the finals this year...add that to the Rankine goal disallowed and the missed free to Dawson against Collingwood, and there's finals right there.

 

[MsTopG]

AFL stood down the goal umpire for the rest of the year, Gil will say it should have been called a mistake, umpire made an error and that's the end of it.

It should be the beginning. What are they going to do to make sure it doesn't happen in a grand final or any match? Why aren't cameras from behind used? Why does the afl short change fans and clubs.? What if that incident cost you a million dollars on a bet? There are grounds for litigation.

 

[NSolis]

You reckon by the time the presser came around that Nicks didn't definitively know it was a goal?

The broadcast had it figured out a few minutes after the final siren at most.

He definitely knew and bullshitted

Nah, that's nonsense. Even on this board people weren't immediately up in arms about the decision, it took a bit of time after the siren for people to digest the replays. There's no way Nicks would have had any certainty about the decision until later, or would have had time to look at all the angles we've seen now.

If he did a press conference now and said he didn't know if it was a goal or not, that's another thing. But initially it was always possible the goal umpire got it right, the weird part was that there was no review. That's the correct thing for him to be calling out in the post-game presser, not flying off the handle about the decision being wrong.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I didn't watch the last Qtr ....I couldn't after the first 3 Qtrs of crap

Sorry, the last Qtr doesn't bring any redemption

Too slow in the midfield ! .....exposing a very inexperienced DEF

And SYD are not a quick side ....but quick enough for our MID's ....Sloane selection error was obvious, the strategy didn't work .....Crouch & Sloane back to their usual

What I did notice, was the strength of Laird has been in his speed within 2 mtrs of the ball .....last night for the first time, he looked to have lost that #1 wood of his

 

[MsTopG]

I didn't watch the last Qtr ....I couldn't after the first 3 Qtrs of crap

Sorry, the last Qtr doesn't bring any redemption

Too slow in the midfield ! .....exposing a very inexperienced DEF

And SYD are not a quick side ....but quick enough for our MID's ....Sloane selection error was obvious, the strategy didn't work .....Crouch & Sloane back to their usual

What I did notice, was the strength of Laird has been in his speed within 2 mtrs of the ball .....last night for the first time, he looked to have lost that #1 wood of his

Laird has been likely carrying something all year. Still tries his guts out though.

 

[kirky]

Yeah he won us the game but technically Rankine was the closest to the ball going over the line so isn't the rule that it was meant to go to him. I believe Rankine would have also won us the game.

If it was Rankine kicking it, I reckon it would have gone thru the middle of goals nowhere near the posts.

Then the following scenario would have played out, goal umpire calls it a point saying I believe the player on mark touched it, they would go to the ARC and after about 30 seconds the ARC would say there is inconclusive evidence to overturn so it is umpires call. Point stands.

Think that is how the corrupt system works.

 

[Crow_Magnon]

Kicking 4.8 in the last to lose a finals spot wasn’t enough.
Getting robbed by an incredulous goal umpiring howler to lose wasn’t enough.
We needed to do both.

#onl#onlythecrows

5.7 actually.

 

[fairfooty]

The Keays goal aside, (yes we were robbed - but boy would that make me all the more determined next season to show these bastards), I think we looked half a second slower all match and all around. As I said in the day thread, Thilthorpe looked slow and indecisive and we can't have that in such a pivotal game and not at AFL standard - needs a speell in the SANFL (who could teach him a thing or two). And I agree, where the hell was Pedlar? Is he sore or injured maybe? And while I thought we still looked slower, and like we had run out of a bit of season 'puff' (not surprising with such a young side) we still rolled a grand finalist from last year. For me this was a technical loss. We won that game. So if Burgess can weave his magic, over the off season then we've everything to look forward to next year. Cup half full and move on.

 

[MsTopG]

The Keays goal aside, (yes we were robbed - but boy would that make me all the more determined next season to show these bastards), I think we looked half a second slower all match and all around. As I said in the day thread, Thilthorpe looked slow and indecsisive and we can't have that in such a pivotal game. And I agree, where the hell wqas Pedlar? IS he sore or injured maybe? And while I thought we still looked slower, and like we had run out of a bit of season 'puff' (not surprising with such a young side) we still rolled a grand finalist from last year. For me this was a technical loss. We won that game. So if Burgess can weave his magic over the off season then we've everything to look forward to next year. Cup half full and move on.

Pedlar didn't look injured to me. He was the fastest guy in our team and attacked the ball with such ferocity I hadn't seen from him. He sent the coaching group a real message. Don't do such a dumb move ever again. It shows he has fight in him. Thilthorpe could learn a thing or two about that.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Bullshit Crouch was easily our best mid last night to go with his game high clearance count along with a game high 5 centre clearances. Take your blinkers off, Sloane was putrid...AGAIN.

Well that says everything then

 

[MsTopG]

Bullshit Crouch was easily our best mid last night to go with his game high clearance count along with a game high 5 centre clearances. Take your blinkers off, Sloane was putrid...AGAIN.

I'm no crouch fan but I thought Crouch was very good last night. Sloane was unseen.

 

[CrowBloke]

I know from personal experience I have shortish fingers and not very grippy hands and if I didn’t have at least some grippo on my hands I’d struggle a lot with my ball drop and my kicking suffered a lot.

I've never used the stuff, but I am genuinely curious about how much you'd put on to be able to grip and hold the ball + dispose of it/drop it effectively.

 

[1990crow]

To all those Crouch haters (including the coaching staff), this one selection may have cost us our season. Fancy having a midfielder of his ability playing sanfl. He’s always been able to play an important part in the midfield. I honestly believe he was hard done by, and when he requests a trade at years end, i hope we do it with a big apology.m. But anyway we can’t change it, but it’s truly head scratching

I recall being abused in the preseason on here for suggesting we looked better with him playing.

 

[Tex Danger]

Wow hugely incinsere statement

I’m a bloody fishing vest.
Dogs bsrking
Mumbling, stuttering. Sounds like he just got out of bed

 

[Milo Cyrus]

The coaches do not get long before their presser, he would not have seen the million images that we all saw on platforms like Twitter. It was correct for him to say it should’ve been reviewed, that puts heat on the AFL. It’s been reported we contacted the AFL immediately afterwards anyway, so why does it matter what Nicks says? No point blasting them in public and then trying to negotiate behind the scenes.

Give the coaches/captain a decision review system like the cricketers get and see if they can see it then?

 

[Tex Danger]

Also keeps saying they’re accountable but they’re not. Where’s the consequence that shows accountability

Also referring to lots of mistakes get made but not accountable to fact this is more than human error, it’s not using the procedure/rule in place to make decision

 

[Tex Danger]

And stuff me he’s comparing it to missed shots on goal

 

[MsTopG]

Wow hugely incinsere statement

I’m a bloody fishing vest.
Dogs bsrking
Mumbling, stuttering. Sounds like he just got out of bed

Who Gillon? He probably hasn't even seen it. Probably had a big night out on the Reds. Why is that Muppet still in the job anyway?

 

[George Kramer]

We wouldn't have been in a position to have a botched non score review cost us the game if we had bothered to show up for the first three quarters

And Tex and Murphy not even make the distance 40 out

 

[Scorpus]

Nah, that's nonsense. Even on this board people weren't immediately up in arms about the decision, it took a bit of time after the siren for people to digest the replays. There's no way Nicks would have had any certainty about the decision until later, or would have had time to look at all the angles we've seen now.

If he did a press conference now and said he didn't know if it was a goal or not, that's another thing. But initially it was always possible the goal umpire got it right, the weird part was that there was no review. That's the correct thing for him to be calling out in the post-game presser, not flying off the handle about the decision being wrong.

It was a game defining moment. As a coach with so much on the line you would be all over it.

There was enough time after the game that he would have known.

Yeah maybe he wouldn't be all over a mid game incident but something in the last minute costing the game and finals? You cannot convince me he didn't know

 

[MsTopG]

Give the coaches/captain a decision review system like the cricketers get and see if they can see it then?

It should be like any other sport that if a ball hits the post and goes through its a goal. In saying that this didn't hit the post and it was a complete **** up by all concerned. What a shambolic comp. Just pull the point posts out and have two goal posts. Invest in the same technology soccer has. Sensors in the ball.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

How does Nicks being a meek little bitch help the club? Why is it so hard to call a spade a spade?

I wish Walsh were still alive. He'd have given them a spray.