At least with Kurt, he's showing the intent that he might leave. Won't get into it, there's a long enough thread already.
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At least with Kurt, he's showing the intent that he might leave. Won't get into it, there's a long enough thread already.
Good to see he's been hitting the weights.
Can he though? I've always wondered if had the aerobic capacity to do so, and whether or not he might be more susceptible to soft tissue injuries playing that role, given his history with such injuries.
Edit: haha Gunston!
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Players are allowed to be homesick, though. Doesn't make all of them "mummies' boys".
Many players are forced to move interstate. They don't get to pick to stay home, but have to live in another state, because that is the club who drafts them.
Not every player will fit in in a new enviroment. If a player isn't happy, then they will be less productive for your club.
Besides, didn't you get Scott Thompson from Melbourne because of the "go-home factor". So, does that make him a "mummy's boy", or only when players leave your club, and not come to it?
Also, if this is how a lot of you feel about Gunston, why should he stay at a club where the supporters hate him? If the supporters can't show him loyalty, then why should he show you any?
Under what circumstances can a player leave your club, and play for another, and not be branded a "traitor"?
Many players are forced to move interstate. They don't get to pick to stay home, but have to live in another state, because that is the club who drafts them.
Not every player will fit in in a new enviroment. If a player isn't happy, then they will be less productive for your club.
Besides, didn't you get Scott Thompson from Melbourne because of the "go-home factor". So, does that make him a "mummy's boy", or only when players leave your club, and not come to it?
Also, if this is how a lot of you feel about Gunston, why should he stay at a club where the supporters hate him? If the supporters can't show him loyalty, then why should he show you any?
Under what circumstances can a player leave your club, and play for another, and not be branded a "traitor"?
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Why mock the guy?
The way most of you speak about him, you should be rejoicing that you don't have a "soft **** mummy's boy" on your list anymore!
You know, Brenton Sanderson left Geelong to coach Adelaide, and go home to his home state, and we don't see him as a "mummy's boy" or a "traitor".
Why is it different for coaches than for players, especially considering that many coaches are paid more than players, since they don't have a salary cap?
Look, I like your club, and the way you go about things. I even wanted you to beat Hawthorn last week. But I think that Adelaide supporters are better than to pot a past player in such a way.
The way most of you speak about him, you should be rejoicing that you don't have a "soft **** mummy's boy" on your list anymore!
You know, Brenton Sanderson left Geelong to coach Adelaide, and go home to his home state, and we don't see him as a "mummy's boy" or a "traitor".
Why is it different for coaches than for players, especially considering that many coaches are paid more than players, since they don't have a salary cap?
Look, I like your club, and the way you go about things. I even wanted you to beat Hawthorn last week. But I think that Adelaide supporters are better than to pot a past player in such a way.
Did you even bother to read Glenno23's response? If you didn't here it is again. Read carefully.
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So a club doesn't have to show a player loyalty by delisting him, but a club has to show the club the same loyalty?
Why can clubs delist players, and show disloyalty, but then if a player leaves, they are criticised?
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Why should he be happy to go to any Victorian club? Trade period allows a player to nominate a club.
If a player wants to leave their club, and picks Adelaide Crows as their preferred destination, because they want to go home, does it matter if they end up at Port Adelaide instead, as it shouldn't matter which club he goes to!
Since when is a club disloyal for delisting a player after having given him an opportunity to pursue a career in the profession he desires. You may not know this but we have shown great loyalty to our players in the past, perhaps you should do some research on the name 'Trent Hentschel', check how many years we persisted with him and all the injury set backs he experienced.
Once and for all try to understand that the issue was not him leaving but how he left.
He should have been happy to go to any Victorian club if his claim of 'home sickness' was genuine.
If it didn't matter then why did he feel the need to nominate one knowing the consequences it would have for us. Why should we be required to treat him any better?
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Yes I'm sure you guys would have been cheering Ablett on if Gold Coast were in the 2011 .GF instead of you
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I wasn't happy about it! But a premiership later, the sadness has disappaited somewhat!
Besides, of course I wasn't cheering about it! It was Gary freakin' Ablett, for crying out loud! Why wouldn't I be sad about it?
But I don't pot him either, but think that any success we have from now on is his loss.
When you win your flag (and I don't think it will be too far away), then Jack Gunston will have missed out of something special. That is the way to think about it.
Besides, I didn't like Ablett leaving, because he was a champion player. But I wouldn't care about it if he was a "soft-****, mother-loving spud" like some of you think of Gunston as.
Maybe if I thought that some of you actually missed and rated Jack Gunston as a player, I would have more sympathy!
Not only was he disloyal, he was dishonest - deliberately misleading the club as to his future intentions.
Stuffed our list and salary cap management around too, as his manager had made every indication that he would be re-signing and that the final details were being worked out on the contract.
The players we poached from interstate didn't nominate a club when they indicated their desire to return home - and that was in a two team town. If they had, Scott Thompson would almost certainly be playing for Port Adelaide.
Gunston had NO link to Hawthorn whatsoever (though he did to Essendon), but simply chose to pursue premiership glory the easiest way possible. He doesn't deserve anyone's respect until he shows a bit of backbone.
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We got a live one.
That red suggests otherwise
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Even more reason to 
See Tyson Stenglein, Kane Johnson, Marty Mattner, Ivan Maric, Chris Knights et al.....that's just off the top of my head.
Why people and the club are peeved off with Gunston is because we were negotiating the deal, everything was squared away and we had a meeting scheduled with Gunston to come in and sign the contract. Except he rocked up to that meeting to tell the club he had a flight to Melbourne in an hour and will not be returning and wants to be traded to a Melbourne based club.
He cops it because of how he went about it. Based on his actions he lacks integrity and character.
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Exactly. His actions and the way he conducted him self were terrible. Thats why he cops so much shit from us. And rightly so.
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Also may have neutered at birth Stiffy. Hope his Mrs doesn't want kids.
Dont reckon it was a fadeout, it was simply the wind, which the commentary team failed to acknowledge existed until midway thru 3rd quarter, when 15 out of 19 goals had been kicked at one end (ironic cheers for the experts in the box - rollseyes).
However, after 2 quarters, Sydney were significantly the better side. That would have been hawthorn's real concern. It was looking bad for the Hawks, like they were going to be spanked worse than us in our first final until .....
....absolutely pissweak call for in the back in a ruck contest gifted one team a goal and the momentum it badly needed back. Care to guess which team got the free (notice how I didnt mention any names, only the nature of the free and the result it got).
I actually thought the umpiring was ok up to half time despite a lop sided free kick count, hawthorn were just in an under harder earlier.
After half time it went major lopsided.
That free mentioned above was the worst one for the day.
Then umps were getting and keeping hawks back in it, thank f***k swans managed to win, would have gutted me to see the better team lose two weeks in a row at the critical end of the season.
Hmmm maybe that was the guy who was conducting that facebook "campaign".. He bet some people that he will run onto the G during the Grand Final and tackle down a field umpire if he got a certain number of Likes for doing it.. I wondered what happened, if he even tried etc.. AFL were aware and said security will deal with anything that comes up lolAnyone watching?
after Kieran Jack's goal someone from the crowd ran onto the field and got tackled by security... and he was wearing a Crows guernsey!
Also, whilst Cunston missed soda was hilarious and shows that he's a spineless soft****, how about Clinton Young falling over and gifting the aforementioned goal to Jack? Bigger grand final howler than the Nick Riewoldt smother or the Rhyce Shaw bounce IMO.
Yep. No problem with homesickness. We've picked up a few. We've lost a few. But when the bloke packs and boards a plane to Melbourne, then rings from Melbourne to say he isn't coming back and doesn't face his mates, then claims homesickness but will only go to one club, then somehow claims a city is changing his personality like he's ****ing Sybil ... ... then he deserves all the shit he cops.
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