Toast "Hammer" Close to signing a new 3 year deal at the Blues!

[Keyza]

We should sign him now that Butcher signed, I don't think there no chance of getting Chris Dawes and Sam Reid. They should sign him the 3 years as the trade won't benefit us. He may develop as a speedy wingmen, that can Ruck.

From all accounts Carlton is trying to re-sign him. The hold up appears to be at Hampson and his managers end not ours. Similar to Grigg last year, it was his choice to leave so a deal had to be done even though we got dudded.
Jacobs was a similar story. Its not always the clubs choice of who stays and leaves.

 

[choo]

GWS are all over him.
3 years and massive money.
His manager is playing VERY hardball.
May end in tears

 

[GordonBlue]

Do you know that for a fact, choo?

They really should be as it just makes common sense.
Our tears would only come into play if we don't get something special.

The best we would get is a pick after first round

 

[Salaryman]

How would we get something special in return?????.......they can sign one uncontracted player from each club....the AFL will give us some bulltish tier 436 compensation pick witha rule they make up as they go

 

[Salaryman]

why would they do that if they can sign him as an uncontracted and acquire another player from the mini draft?

 

[I bleed Blue]

Big a pretty big blow to loose him. I think his development is coming along really well. Could defintaly see him taking the #1 rucking duties off Warnock

 

[Bluebear]

The best we would get is a pick after first round

If Fantasia thinks Ward is worth two first rounders then Hampson would definately be worth one.

I agree though, pick after first round would be about right.

I was surprised that GC Suns weren't into him being a local. Seems they were more looking for the "mature" aged recruit.

Super impressed with GWS recruiting so far. Ward, Palmer, Davies, Scully (prob) and if they get Hampson.....all around the same age and all going to be super long term players.......unluck Bock, Brennan.....etc. Even Ablett will be in his twilight years when they are primed for a crack at the flag.

 

[GordonBlue]

If Fantasia thinks Ward is worth two first rounders then Hampson would definately be worth one.

I agree though, pick after first round would be about right.

I was surprised that GC Suns weren't into him being a local. Seems they were more looking for the "mature" aged recruit.

Super impressed with GWS recruiting so far. Ward, Palmer, Davies, Scully (prob) and if they get Hampson.....all around the same age and all going to be super long term players.......unluck Bock, Brennan.....etc. Even Ablett will be in his twilight years when they are primed for a crack at the flag.

I am completely opposite...

I believe GWS recruits have been ordinary.

They are paying premium for potential. A young team needs real senior players that maybe not achieve with them... but lead them into the correct direct. Now they are relying on 22 years old as leaders.

Players like Gaz, Bock, Brown and Rischa pull the kids together. They look up to them and try to emulate them, from on-field skills to off-field professionalism. GWS don't have this.

They will not win a game with those kind of players. They will be smashed every game, by GC too.

 

[Hayashi_62]

Great re-signing. Can't go wrong with 3 years for a player like Hampson (barring injury of course).

We know what he can do now, and we know what upside he still has in him. At worst he stays the same which is a good serviceable ruck option. Not many other teams have the strength and depth and athleticism at the ruck position that we can boast.

And the oldest one is what, 24? Not even in their prime any of them.

Win. Win. Win.

Uhhhh??

 

[TheBigBlue]

Great news, love Hammer!!!! And Megan....

 

[The_Wookie]

This is the last official word any of us had.

"Of further good news for Hampson and Carlton is that the big bloke from Mt Gravatt is close to finalizing terms of a new three-year contract binding him to the Blues".

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/4311/newsid/121720/default.aspx
By Tony De Bolfo 2:46 PM Tue 23 Aug, 2011

This appeared on Sports News First 3 days later and has not been reported anywhere else

Hampson and Blues talks stall

By Kim Hagdorn 26 August 2011

CARLTON big man Shaun Hampson (pictured marking) has put contract talks on hold fuelling prospects he could leave the Blues.

http://fansite.sportsnewsfirst.com....ews/2011/08/26/hampson-and-blues-talks-stall/

 

[Mr.Kennedy]

I love Hammer. He is about to start turning it on. Would suck to lose him. Not looking good though.

 

[choo]

Hammer is playing this week.
More news to come

 

[dumb]

may need to keep setanta's fists and boots away from hampsons head and ass

 

[Juddrockz]

Hammer is playing this week.
More news to come

Good news! Hopefully he can do half a good a job against the Eagles as he did with the Bullants last weekend,that would be awesome

 

[GordonBlue]

Hammer is playing this week.
More news to come

Yay for my ignorance, but this is BF after all... but do you have a source?

 

[Stamos]

Yay for my ignorance, but this is BF after all... but do you have a source?

Choo is reliable

 

[Bluebear]

If I was Shaun's manager I'd be stalling too. With GWS looking for a ruckman, along with Richmond, Essendon, St Kilda.......any others?
He may well think that a good end to the year and some "offers coming in might add some value to his deal, or indeed he may seek a trade to play more footy as first ruck, ala Jacobs.

He must see the writing on the wall with Warnocks form now.

I'd hate to see him go, but as he gets better, he'll hate not getting into the side except to cover injuries.

Interesting times.

Lets hope he plays this week, has the best match of his career, propels us into a prelim final, and overakes Setanta as the preferred forward/ruck option.

 

[Jeremias]

If I was Shaun's manager I'd be stalling too. With GWS looking for a ruckman, along with Richmond, Essendon, St Kilda.......any others?
He may well think that a good end to the year and some "offers coming in might add some value to his deal, or indeed he may seek a trade to play more footy as first ruck, ala Jacobs.

He must see the writing on the wall with Warnocks form now.

I'd hate to see him go, but as he gets better, he'll hate not getting into the side except to cover injuries.

Interesting times.

Lets hope he plays this week, has the best match of his career, propels us into a prelim final, and overakes Setanta as the preferred forward/ruck option.

The issue I have with this is that Hampson isn't just a ruckman. Prior to going down with his injury he was showing a fair bit of promise as a forward.

Setanta, Waite, Thornton and Kreuzer are our tall forwards at the moment.

Waite is struggling and won't be back this season - not to mention he's not getting any younger, is prone to suspension and his body seems to be catching up with him a little.

Kreuz will be a star but he's not a forward. He's very dangerous as a resting ruckman but I remain unconvinced that he is suited to the role of permanent tall forward.

Thornton was outstanding against Essendon and has shown promise at times up forward but he's not a long term solution.

Setanta is fantastic because he's a big body, isn't afraid to throw his weight around, can take a grab and if he doesn't at least he brings the ball to ground. He's been a back-up plan for us for a while, but again, he's not a viable long-term solution.

We have a few young kids that we are hoping to develop into key forwards (Mitchell, Casboult) but they are simply not ready to step into that role in the seniors.

Hampson is a very competent ruckman and has been improving up forward. His kicking & marking have been issues at times but there is no doubt he is improving in these areas.

Hammer could well leave the club and establish himself as the number 1 ruckman at a number of other clubs, but I do believe there is a spot for him as a forward in our side, now and in the future.

I'd hate for him to leave. His talent is clear for all to see and the improvement he is making is significant. He was playing some fantastic football prior to his recent injury, and there's no reason why he can't build on that once he's back in the senior side, which I believe he will be as early as this weekend vs the Eagles.

 

[The_Wookie]

10 marks and 6 goals on the weekend. 4 in a quarter when it counted. get him to full forward already

 

[Laybel]

The issue I have with this is that Hampson isn't just a ruckman. Prior to going down with his injury he was showing a fair bit of promise as a forward.

Setanta, Waite, Thornton and Kreuzer are our tall forwards at the moment.

Waite is struggling and won't be back this season - not to mention he's not getting any younger, is prone to suspension and his body seems to be catching up with him a little.

Kreuz will be a star but he's not a forward. He's very dangerous as a resting ruckman but I remain unconvinced that he is suited to the role of permanent tall forward.

Thornton was outstanding against Essendon and has shown promise at times up forward but he's not a long term solution.

Setanta is fantastic because he's a big body, isn't afraid to throw his weight around, can take a grab and if he doesn't at least he brings the ball to ground. He's been a back-up plan for us for a while, but again, he's not a viable long-term solution.

We have a few young kids that we are hoping to develop into key forwards (Mitchell, Casboult) but they are simply not ready to step into that role in the seniors.

Hampson is a very competent ruckman and has been improving up forward. His kicking & marking have been issues at times but there is no doubt he is improving in these areas.

Hammer could well leave the club and establish himself as the number 1 ruckman at a number of other clubs, but I do believe there is a spot for him as a forward in our side, now and in the future.

I'd hate for him to leave. His talent is clear for all to see and the improvement he is making is significant. He was playing some fantastic football prior to his recent injury, and there's no reason why he can't build on that once he's back in the senior side, which I believe he will be as early as this weekend vs the Eagles.

I think after a full pre season training towards becoming a KPF, we'll see massive improvements from Krueze next year. We have to remember he was in recovery last pre season and imo hasn't been given the training program required to become a KPF.

Keeping Hampson will give us the flexibility to do this.

Agree with the rest of you post BTW!

 

[Bluebear]

Kreuz will be a star but he's not a forward. He's very dangerous as a resting ruckman but I remain unconvinced that he is suited to the role of permanent tall forward.

Hampson is a very competent ruckman and has been improving up forward. His kicking & marking have been issues at times but there is no doubt he is improving in these areas.

With all due respect J, I think Kreuzer's shown more as a forward than Hampson has......at senior level at least.

I agree that Hampson could be a very difficult proposition as a forward/ruck, but he needs to start turning that potential into actual performances in the seniors.

Hammer could well leave the club and establish himself as the number 1 ruckman at a number of other clubs, but I do believe there is a spot for him as a forward in our side, now and in the future.

I'd hate for him to leave. His talent is clear for all to see and the improvement he is making is significant. He was playing some fantastic football prior to his recent injury, and there's no reason why he can't build on that once he's back in the senior side, which I believe he will be as early as this weekend vs the Eagles.

I agree. I wouldn't want him to go, but I didn't want Jacobs to go either, and the way things are shaping up I think most teams will look to have one permanent ruck, and another that can play forward ruck.

Warnock plays first ruck and will be a monster in a couple of years.

Kreuzer has to play. Not sure Hampson gets in ahead of either. So he would be looking for Setanta or Waites spot. He'll be trying to take the spot of a genuine forward uch as Henderson, maybe Mitchell or Casboult.......maybe Thornton.

I get the age thing, but how lets presume these guys have another couple of years in them. Do we reasonably expect Shaun to wait another 2 years to get that senior spot, hoping that some young buck doesn't come along in the meantime and take it?

I just think, not unlike Jacobs, he is good enough to play first ruck at Port or Richmond, probably GWS and maybe even Bulldogs with Hudson gone.

Is he worth more to us as a depth player, and can we reasonably expect him to be happy with it? Or do we look to secure a trade when he should have some decent currency.

 

[Silvagnis]

Get the lube ready if Hampson who is in his fifth year joins the Giants as an uncontracted player.

The AFL's ruling in full

Melbourne would receive First Band Compensation - a First Round selection and a Mid-First Round selection for Tom Scully.

Western Bulldogs would receive Second Band Compensation - a First Round selection for Callan Ward.

Adelaide Crows would receive Second Band Compensation - a First Round selection for Phil Davis.

Fremantle would receive Third Band Compensation - an end of First Round selection for Rhys Palmer.

The AFL wishes to advise that there was a significant differential in the contract offer to Scully, to those of Ward and Davis, and it was therefore determined that the compensation package for Melbourne should be in the highest band.

The AFL's ruling in full

If the Dockers activate their compensation next year, they might receive pick 30 for Palmer who is a fourth year player and a former winner of the rising star award.

1 - Port priority pick - Lachie Whitfield (VIC - MID)
2 - 18th - GWS - Jaeger O'Meara (WA - Mid)
3 - 17th - Port Adelaide - Brodie Grundy (SA - Ruck)
4 - 16th - Brisbane - Brad Crouch (VIC - Mid)
5 - 15th - Western Bull Dogs - Jake Stringer (VIC - Util)
6 - 14th - Adelaide - Ben Kennedy (SA - Mid)
7 - 13th - Richmond - Oliver Wines (VIC - Mid)
8 - 12th - Gold Coast - Matthew Haynes (VIC - Util)
9 - 11th - Essendon - Joe Daniher (VIC - KPF/Ruck - F/S)
10 - 10th - Sydney - Dayle Garlett (WA - Mid)
11 - 9th - North Melbourne - Josh Simpson (SA - Mid/Fwd)
12 - Scully compo #1 (Melb) - Jack Viney (VIC - Mid - F/S)
13 - Scully compo #2 (Melb) - Liam McBean (VIC - Ruck/KPF)
14 - Ward compo (Dogs) - Lachie Hunter (VIC - Mid - F/S)
15 - Davis compo (Adel) - Christopher Yarran (WA - Mid/Fwd)
16 - Ablett compo #1 (GC) - Anthony Bonaddio (VIC - Mid)
17 - Ablett compo #2 (Geel) - Jed Anderson (NT - Mid/Util)
18 - 8th - Melbourne - Jason Pongracic - (VIC - Mid)
19 - 7th - St Kilda - Nick Vlastuin (VIC - Mid)
20 - 6th - Geelong - Rory Atkins (VIC - Mid)
21 - 5th - Fremantle - Shannon Taylor (WA - Mid)
22 - 4th - West Coast - Corey Chalmers (WA - Mid)
23 - 3rd - Carlton - Emmanuel Irra (SA - Mid/Util)
24 - 2nd - Hawthorn - Jesse Lonergan (TAS - Mid)
25 - 1st - Collingwood - James Stewart (VIC - KPF - F/S)
26 - GWS priority pick - Kristan Yaksch (VIC - KPF)
27 - Bock compo (Rich) - Tim Membrey (VIC - Fwd)
28 - Brennan compo (GC) - Sam Mayes (SA - Fwd)
29 - Harbrow compo (Bris) - Jonathon O'Rouke (VIC - Mid)
30 - Palmer compo (Freo) - Riley Hutchinson (WA - Def)

We'll be lucky to receive a similar selection for a 23 year old ruck who has his best football ahead of him.

 

[BlueTongue]

Good news! I can definitely see Hampson overtaking Warnock and Kreuzer in the ruck next year, providing he has an injury free run.

Ideally we would be able to play all 3 in the team if they practice playing in different positions over the preseason. As we have clearly been undersized over the past couple of months, it would be great to have all three big men uninjured and in form - this would open up some possibilities to us.

Maybe???

Hampson - 1st ruck / Resting Forward
Kreuzer - Follower ruck rover / Ruck / Key position defender ???
Warnock - 2nd ruck / Resting forward (If he learns how to mark and actually puts some effort in!)

Are you serious??? He has no-where near the upside of Warnock or Kreuzer!! I think you have a bad case of what you hope for clouding your reality. I'd rather see him traded, but as a 3rd ruck option (that's all he'll ever be here) he's OK I guess.

 

[Blue and Silver]

O'meara and one of Kennedy, Grundy, Crouch will be gone by the end of this year surely