Analysis Hawks 2022 Hypothetical trades (read the pinned post)

[Strapping Young Lad]

Firstly, the "No Kane Cornes

Kane Cornes

Age

41

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Mid

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23.5

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11.0

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3.3

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2.6

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13.0

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7.6

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5.4

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[Kanga Commando]

This is the sort of person i want in the club. Kids like this build good culture.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/max-gruzewski-praised-for-stunning-act-of-sportsmanship-during-afl-combine/news-story/3f8b7d9828f8fa268a24c654f1a6f6b1

 

[Brishawk]

my guess would be they see 21 in the Dunkley trade

It’s definitely possible but you can use more picks in bids than you have list places. So you can’t trade in 25 late picks to make up the points. I’m sure there are some caveats and clauses that make it more complicated than I describe but broadly that is the mechanism to stop clubs trading out of the draft to meet buds in the first round.

 

[KermitJagger]

Has anyone done the maths to determine the material difference this makes to the lions? Less than a 100 point slide. Seems immaterial but maybe impacts the fletcher bid.

It doesn't make a material difference.

They've got 3621 points, it's likely 2400 of those are eaten up by matching Pick 1 for Ashcroft and probably about ~600 matching for Fletcher. That 100 either way isn't a big deal for them.

 

[butlers hawks]

It’s definitely possible but you can use more picks in bids than you have list places. So you can’t trade in 25 late picks to make up the points. I’m sure there are some caveats and clauses that make it more complicated than I describe but broadly that is the mechanism to stop clubs trading out of the draft to meet buds in the first round.

correct, not sure what the connection is to Dunkley though?

I mean that they had a first and traded it out and Dogs werent happy then they did it again and Dogs again said they were annoyed so doing it a third time might be too much for the Dogs to agree to a deal

 

[Billyc]

Fair deal for mine.

Fair in the sense that we have no bargaining power. But it’s a deal we should do, and even throw in some junk in the 60s to help balance the points for Brisbane

 

[MrPremiership]

just give it 48hrs, loads will change

 

[butlers hawks]

just give it 48hrs, loads will change

might be some movement on the webcam in the cupboard this year?

 

[theiaofseed]

I find it more interesting why Hawthorn would want to move up 3 spots

 

[KermitJagger]

Fair in the sense that we have no bargaining power. But it’s a deal we should do, and even throw in some junk in the 60s to help balance the points for Brisbane

1. They don't need the points.
2. Why do we need to help them?

We have plenty of bargaining power. Brisbane have all the work in the world to do to nail the trades they're working on, and we could just let Gunston walk to the draft. He's not making it through half of the clubs that have a pick before they do.

 

[Sixpence]

I find it more interesting why Hawthorn would want to move up 3 spots

Why wouldn't we?

 

[MrPremiership]

I find it more interesting why Hawthorn would want to move up 3 spots

The alternative is a pick in the 40s or 50s.....

We may not take that many players in the draft so that pick would be worthless to us. Might as well upgrade our earlier selections

 

[Steven Tyler]

I find it more interesting why Hawthorn would want to move up 3 spots

Because you get a higher rated player ?

 

[Billyc]

Yep I’d rather move up in the order than get picks in the 50s. It’s a crap outcome regardless. That was inevitable once Gunston chose to leave once eligible for free agency

 

[Blackhawk42]

Waiting for trades like....

 

[Denver Day Lewis]

Is there anything within the rules stopping us from extending then trading to pay more of the salary?

If the Pies goal is to achieve net zero by off setting the salary paid to Grundy and Treloar would it be an option?

Yes, you can't do that.

AFL wouldnt sign off

Unless you're Geelong.

 

[JR33]

Jackson’s deal is imminent, the gates are about to open up!

 

[daniel23]

Yep I’d rather move up in the order than get picks in the 50s. It’s a crap outcome regardless. That was inevitable once Gunston chose to leave once eligible for free agency

Yep absolutely worthless in this draft.

 

[theiaofseed]

The alternative is a pick in the 40s or 50s.....

We may not take that many players in the draft so that pick would be worthless to us. Might as well upgrade our earlier selections

We're on record saying we will be taking 4 picks to the draft, chances are who ever we want at Pick 21 will be there at 24(we can move up on draft night if need be) more at play than just wanting to move 3 spots.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Jackson’s deal is imminent, the gates are about to open up!

Good news mate!

 

[butlers hawks]

Jackson’s deal is imminent, the gates are about to open up!

 

[hawkmang]

Jackson’s deal is imminent, the gates are about to open up!

Look what blew through the gate

 

[Mojo]

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Waiting for trades like....

The minutes of declination is easily the worst part of trade week.

 

[spudmaster]

Tommy!!!

 

[Hawked Wings]

It’s done, just waiting for the details

 

[hawkmang]

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