Analysis Hawks 2022 Hypothetical trades (read the pinned post)

[Strapping Young Lad]

Firstly, the "No Kane Cornes

Kane Cornes

Age

41

Ht

183cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.5

5star

K

12.5

5star

HB

11.0

5star

M

5.2

5star

T

3.3

5star

CL

2.6

4star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.2

3star

" Rule is back

 

[Hawker1167]

I am pretty happy out with the old in with the new - at least we won’t be reading next year after the loses about the hack kicks by Titch into the f50 or the lack of pace O’Meara has and lack of kicking power etc etc etc - be interesting to see how O’Meara will go with all the travelling he will have to do now

Sammy i trust and through thick and thin ALWAYS HAWTHORN for me

 

[Since 2001]

41, 48, 50, 52 is 1233pts equivalent to pick 13. Where do trade these picks....would be trying for future 2nds again and late 3rd in this draft?

 

[Cleavy]

looking forward to tomorrow's media rating our trade period a 'C'.

 

[VandoHawk]

Well this is one way to rip off the band-aid

 

[PLATTS44]

i think its dogs second.

 

[Iceman!]

He missed his entire first year with an ankle injury and his 2nd season was injury interrupted too

This is his first full year of football in the system.

Yeah but he has now had multiple injuries, not proven himself at AFL level.

You take him as a low risk option or you don't take him.

 

[HolyRioli]

I like the look of Stephens a lot this year. Watched him as he was in my fantasy team

Clean hands, good contested game, big body

 

[Billyc]

looking forward to tomorrow's media rating our trade period a 'C'.

That would be generous. I agreed with the strategy but the execution was horrid. We better not be paying salary for those crap deals.

 

[WWSD]

If Cooper Stephens can replicate what Scrimshaw did in his first season at Hawthorn and push for a best 22 spot, then this trade period might not be as bad as it looks.

 

[whiteTiga2k]

Love to hear what McKenzie has to say... how he enjoys other teams walking all over us

 

[Snoref]

He missed his entire first year with an ankle injury and his 2nd season was injury interrupted too

This is his first full year of football in the system.

So your saying we traded Tom for a injury prone fringe player who couldn't get a game....that's makes it even better

 

[QuietB]

Cannot believe we’ve done these trades and paying salary still…. Horrible work .

We gotta pay someone - can’t give Sic and Newk $3m each

 

[Lickmesocks]

Jeff’s letter to the members will be interesting.

Really poor week from the guys.

 

[Fluro Boots]

We now have 41,48,50 & 52 = Around 1200 pts
The lions have 34 & 35 which is 1000 pts

Surely McKenzie is making that call

Biggest sticking point will be Brisbanes available list spots. At the end of the day we traded two players, got two young players in in positions we need and some extra currency. The details on how much salary we’re paying elsewhere will be the decider on how good the trades are for me. Given the returns in terms of draft picks it should be low but I’m scared that’s not the case.

 

[hamburGER_au]

We’ve done pretty well with late picks in the past.

 

[HolyRioli]

So your saying we traded Tom for a injury prone fringe player who couldn't get a game....that's makes it even better

You jump to conclusions better than my wife has at times

 

[extractasam]

Mitchell, O’Meara, Gunston, McEvoy, Shiels all gone in one off season. A damn lot of experience we have cut ultra deep. Huge risk, interested to see how it all pans out.

Some big responsibility coming on to a lot of guys now young and old. Really keen to see whos up to it, we’re in for a tough year

 

[HappyHawk_1]

looking forward to tomorrow's media rating our trade period a 'C'.

Surely they will rate it a D-F : "traded out experienced players, didn't get anyone" (conveniently ignoring Amon)

Alternatively, if we didn't trade Mitchell & O'Meara - also D-F : "They didn't do anything/they didn't improve their list" (again, conveniently ignoring Amon)

 

[bindas12]

To all you delusional lot that blindly keep backing Mitch and MM, Hope you've learned your lesson now. Trading out all that experience and even paying salaries for next year has resulted in the earliest pick of 41!!...what a shit show

 

[Ned Ryerson]

To the histrionics brigade over the Mitchell trade. If this is the best we could yield out of him over 2 seasons of having him on the block - what makes you think we’d get a better deal next year when he’s a year older and out of contract?

 

[Lickmesocks]

So your saying we traded Tom for a injury prone fringe player who couldn't get a game....that's makes it even better

Cooper is a Dan Howe type player . Even when fit he is borderline best 22 players.

 

[PAOKTSIS]

I don’t understand the angst.

We’ve effectively brought in another ruckman in Meek, an inside midfielder in Stephens and additional draft picks.

And we gave up two players who clearly didn’t function well within our midfield rotations, weren’t part of our future plans, probably don’t have too many years remaining and received zero bites last year when we tried to ship them off. I’m not sure why people think their stocks would’ve risen after another year?

Yes, we may have obtained another late first round pick if JOM chose GWS, but unfortunately he wanted to go to Fremantle. Nothing MM could do about that.

We lost zero draft capital whilst bringing in two young players who haven’t been given opportunities at their respective clubs - and who will probably surprise quite a few next year.




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[Snoref]

I said this before and was shouted down our list management dept needs a review...we seem reactive and not proactive (forward planning)

 

[HedgeFund]

Stephens has what 12 games since being drafted in 2019?

Shafted.

In top sides, guys picked at #16 don’t just waltz into the midfield straight away.

Broken leg in u18 year. Missed half of 2021 with an ankle.

Proper pre-season in 2022 and he managed 7 games in a premiership team.

He will walk straight in and stand next to McDonald and Ward in the pecking order.

188cm and probably 88kgs next year.

Just what we need and Geelong can’t carry

 

[TFFM]

Bring Shiels back for another year