Analysis Hawks 2022 Hypothetical trades (read the pinned post)

[Strapping Young Lad]

Firstly, the "No Kane Cornes

Kane Cornes

Age

41

Ht

183cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.5

5star

K

12.5

5star

HB

11.0

5star

M

5.2

5star

T

3.3

5star

CL

2.6

4star

No current season stats available

D

13.0

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

1.2

3star

" Rule is back

 

[DannyJ]

We've improved it.

With additional junk picks

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[wahawk]

At least one thing was cleared. We can't continue with Mackenzie next year. What a looser.

I’m sure he’s better at spelling than what you are.
Looser ?

 

[jr4jane2004]

Geelong won the premiership and get Bruhn, Henry, Bowes and keeps pick 7

We loose Top 10 players in Gunston, Mitchell, Omeara for picks in the 2nd round and 40's and get Amon, Stephens and Meek who are fringe players. Any chance we can trade MM for Andrew Mackie

Andrew Mackie

Age

40

Ht

193cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.2

5star

K

12.6

5star

HB

6.6

4star

M

5.7

5star

T

2.1

4star

MG

346.7

5star

No current season stats available

D

9.0

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

2.8

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.2

4star

, this is so underwhelming?

 

[killerspud]

If you want to blame anyone for us not getting value for Tom, realistically you have to start with Sam. You can't remove a player from his best role all season, let everyone know you're happy to move him on and then expect to get true value for them.

This.

Also all you supporters who heaped shit on him all year. Well that's what we got back

 

[PenAndPaper]

With additional junk picks

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and a second next year in a better draft...

 

[Denver Day Lewis]

Brisbane had two f2s.

We got a series of fUs.

 

[KermitJagger]

Geelong won the premiership and get Bruhn, Henry, Bowes and keeps pick 7

We loose Top 10 players in Gunston, Mitchell, Omeara for picks in the 2nd round and 40's and get Amon, Stephens and Meek who are fringe players. Any chance we can trade MM for Andrew Mackie, this is so underwhelming?

Bruhn, Henry and Bowes are all fringe players too though?

 

[Stottzy]

Omeara for Meek and second rounder is a great deal. Omeara has been a flop for us and happy to see him go. We've had the worst midfield for years and it was time to shake things up. 2 out of Mitchell, Omeara and Worpel needed to go.

Now it's time for Worpel to lift!

 

[BobHawk]

Seems to be quite a bit of optimism that we will get to trade our way up with the fistful of low picks we have. I don't reckon.

 

[TheFourPillars]

Well Seamus looks like surviving given the picks we acquired

 

[asanque]

I don’t understand the angst.

We’ve effectively brought in another ruckman in Meek, an inside midfielder in Stephens and additional draft picks.

And we gave up two players who clearly didn’t function well within our midfield rotations, weren’t part of our future plans, probably don’t have too many years remaining and received zero bites last year when we tried to ship them off. I’m not sure why people think their stocks would’ve risen after another year?

Yes, we may have obtained another late first round pick if JOM chose GWS, but unfortunately he wanted to go to Fremantle. Nothing MM could do about that.

We lost zero draft capital whilst bringing in two young players who haven’t been given opportunities at their respective clubs - and who will probably surprise quite a few next year.




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Collingwood gave Mitchell 3 years and Freo gave JOM 4 years.

I'd expect them to have at least that much good footy left in them and they were both pretty good this year.

These are top tier players we gave away for untried WAFL, VFL players and peanuts.

 

[ShoveYourCOLA]

Can anyone confirm that McKenzie managed to keep our block of land at Dingley and it was not given to Collingwood.

It gets worse, we’re also paying them to take it

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

So many posters were ok with Tom leaving because he's not the sort of mid that we need with the style we play under Sam and yet we expected to get a former first round player in AND a top 25 pick for him? That would've been great, but it's pretty clear we've overrated Tom here.

Jaeger for Meek and future 2nd, that's good value in my book for a 29yr old, particularly when Freo wanted a 2nd rounder for Meek alone.

Pick 41 will pull into Pick 35 on draft night after matching, and we're still holding Picks 6 and 24. It's not really melt worthy.

 

[Jazzfan]

Geelong thought highly enough of him to grab him with #16 when prior to his ankle he was rated 5 - 10. They could help that he got injured and frankly their midfield was chock full of established talent.

We effectively traded Mitchell out and got him and two 3rd rounders back.

There’s nothing to suggest at this stage he couldn’t slot straight into Mitchell’s spot in our rotation BUT HE IS 188cm and we have a midfield full of short people.

I like it.

He was drafted in 2019 mate.

Seven games in 3 seasons, players have little currency.

Moreso if the reigning premier adds Bruhn (pick 18), promises Bowes games and will draft Clark... and Parfitt was lucky to come into the 22.

Oh and we were bidding against ourselves.

If you can't get that done for bugger all, we'll **** you're no good.

 

[The Cleaner]

At least one thing was cleared. We can't continue with Mackenzie next year. What a looser.

You sound even looser, it must be said.

 

[LunchboxLegend]

This.

Also all you supporters who heaped s**t on him all year. Well that's what we got back

So this horrible horrible trade is now our fault?

 

[Tomohawks]

To all you delusional lot that blindly keep backing Mitch and MM, Hope you've learned your lesson now. Trading out all that experience and even paying salaries for next year has resulted in the earliest pick of 41!!...what a s**t show

Talk about delusional, you left out the fact we gained two young player types of need who could be anything plus a future second rounder in an extremely highly rated draft. Never let the facts get in the way of a good story pal.

 

[Billyc]

O’Meara trade is objectively fine. A week ago I’d have happily taken a 2023 second pick alone, and Meek is an extra. What sucks there is that JOM screwed us in choosing Freo when GWS were prepared to offer more. Hopefully we are not paying much salary for that Freo deal but I reckon we are.

The Mitchell deal stinks. It’s a VFL player and two junk picks in a shallow draft for a good player and apparently we are paying salary. Can’t spin that one, it’s a terrible bit of business.

To finish the trade by moving on senior players and paying salary for guys to go elsewhere and not landing a single pick under 30 is really poor. We yielded on every trade

 

[flinchfree]

We don’t have to be anything next year - we are rebuilding. Again - this isn’t a top up for a finals run or premiership. Persisting with Mitchell for another year and then trading him for even less gains us what exactly?

22 home and away game day thread bitch fests about his lack of defensive prowess, lollipop kicking, and handballs to laces.
But hey, some people can only be happy when they're miserable so they just wanted a head start.

 

[Suntory Boss Coffee]

41, 50 and 52 for Essendons 22?

They will need points for Davey bid

 

[TheFourPillars]

Collingwood gave Mitchell 3 years and Freo gave JOM 4 years.

I'd expect them to have at least that much good footy left in them and they were both pretty good this year.

These are top tier players we gave away for untried WAFL, VFL players and peanuts.

We got ****ing reamed. It wasn't like they weren't valued it wasn't a 1 or 2 year deal. 3 and 4 year deals for 28 and 29 years olds is not valuing them as really good players?

 

[Rob R]

It has to be Norths future second rounder, freo traded their future second….please be right

It will be Brisbane's without a doubt.

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[Iceman!]

So many posters were ok with Tom leaving because he's not the sort of mid that we need with the style we play under Sam and yet we expected to get a former first round player in AND a top 25 pick for him? That would've been great, but it's pretty clear we've overrated Tom here.

Jaeger for Meek and future 2nd, that's good value in my book for a 29yr old, particularly when Freo wanted a 2nd rounder for Meek alone.

Pick 41 will pull into Pick 35 on draft night after matching, and we're still holding Picks 6 and 24. It's not really melt worthy.

Melt worthy maybe not but we are paying two of our best players to play for other teams and got some very raw prospects and some late picks.

 

[asanque]

We got ******* reamed. It wasn't like they weren't valued it wasn't a 1 or 2 year deal. 3 and 4 year deals for 28 and 29 years olds is not valuing them as really good players?

Plus they were under contract too and we have salary cap space.

 

[spudmaster]

Unless those token picks are being packaged up with McKenzie to get a list manager with a pair between his legs, then that's horrendous!